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Bill Maher Defends Paula Deen After Firing: ‘Do We Always Have to Make People Go Away?’
The Blaze ^ | 6/20/13

Posted on 06/22/2013 10:12:24 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

Bill Maher offered one of the rare public defenses of embattled celebrity chef Paula Deen on Friday, asking why “we always have to make people go away” for saying bad words.

Bill Maher Defends Paula Deen After Firing: Do We Always Have to Make People Go Away? AP

Deen was dropped by the Food Network following her public apology after it emerged this week that she had admitted to using the n-word in the past.

“I’m just wondering,” Maher began on his HBO show “Real Time,” “if you’re 66 years old and you were raised in Georgia and you were a child before the civil rights movement, do you get a bit of a pass — ”

“No — ” members of his panel cut in.

” — or you say no, you’ve had 40 years to get used to — I agree,” Maher said. But he added a few moments later, “I also think people shouldn’t have to lose their shows and go away when they do something bad.”

“It’s just a word, it’s a wrong word, she’s wrong to use it, but do we always have to make people go away?” Maher asked.

The panel again disagreed, with former New York Times columnist Bob Herbert saying, “For me that word is the line…nobody should be using that word.”

Maher asked whether “we should ban rap records” and said that in America, “you’ve gotta be a free country, even to be an a–hole.”


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Video at clip. One of those rare times when Bill Maher actually makes sense. Especially around 3:02 in the vid where he exposes Bob Herbert's hypocrisy when he asks if the n-word should be banned from rap music. IMO, say what you may about Lenny Bruce with his drugging and potty mouth humor, but this routine goes to show that words are "hurtful" only if we let them be hurtful.
1 posted on 06/22/2013 10:12:24 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

I’ve never been a Paula Deen fan but I feel sorry for her.

What now? Retire from the scene?


2 posted on 06/22/2013 10:15:26 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Impala64ssa

This is twice now this year that I’ve agreed with Bill Maher on something. This is weird. I have usually ranked Maher as the worst person in the world, but now I may have to move him up to tied for last.


3 posted on 06/22/2013 10:15:48 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz.)
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I’d rather live in a world of obscenity than one that stifles speech, and polices thought and expression.

Don’t be a statist!


4 posted on 06/22/2013 10:16:15 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Impala64ssa

well, the rule is, blacks are allowed to use the N word, and that’s okay in that context. But whites aren’t allowed to do so. That’s hpw political correctness works. Officially recognized grievance groups are allowed to say and do things which whites are not allowed to say and do.


5 posted on 06/22/2013 10:17:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Charles Henrickson

>> This is weird. I have usually ranked Maher as the worst person in the world

He doesn’t consistently support liberty through his defense of the Left and attacks on the Right.


6 posted on 06/22/2013 10:17:51 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Impala64ssa
in America, “you’ve gotta be a free country, even to be an a–hole.”

And that pretty much defines his "show" and his career.

7 posted on 06/22/2013 10:17:52 AM PDT by South40
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To: Impala64ssa

I don’t particularly like Paula Deen because I think she’s a smarmy “movie-Southerner,” and her restaurant (which people stand on line for hours to visit) sux.

But really. This is ridiculous.


8 posted on 06/22/2013 10:19:02 AM PDT by livius
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To: Impala64ssa
Let me guess: Paula Whoever is not a conservative, otherwise he would not be asking the question.

I'm right, aren't I?

9 posted on 06/22/2013 10:19:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: Impala64ssa
So if a black comedian or rapper uses the "N" word, I guess they need to be fired and never heard from again. Likewise, if anyone uses an offensive word to refer to European-Americans.

Holding my breath . . .

10 posted on 06/22/2013 10:19:27 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Still waiting . . . turning blue now . . .)
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To: South40

Which is why he’s coming out in defense of her. He sees the writing on the wall.


11 posted on 06/22/2013 10:19:31 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Impala64ssa
“For me that word is the line…nobody should be using that word.”

Not even Trayvon "No-Limits Nigga" Martin?

12 posted on 06/22/2013 10:20:48 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: liberalh8ter

His brand of filth is why it’s been 10 years since I have watched HBO, 10 years since that network has gotten one dime from me.


13 posted on 06/22/2013 10:22:47 AM PDT by South40
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To: Impala64ssa

Tolerance is a one way street.

Pray for America to Wake Up


14 posted on 06/22/2013 10:22:57 AM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: Impala64ssa

This is weird hypocrisy when you consider how many black rappers, black standup comedians and black actors have made careers out of using “the N-word”. The people in this country need to grow up.


15 posted on 06/22/2013 10:23:46 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain and "The Flake" have got to go.)
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To: Impala64ssa
Does anyone remember this blast from the recent past? Where Paula Deen was schmoozing with Moochelle 0?
16 posted on 06/22/2013 10:24:10 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

They do not disappear if they are too useful, Senator Byrd was not even badgered for using it a few years ago.


17 posted on 06/22/2013 10:24:18 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I’ve made this same point as Maher many times in my life. Do you really need to be completely destroyed for saying something regrettable? I say, “No.”

Look, the lady apologized. What else do we need? Blood? Her first born child? It was a screw up!! I know the word that she used is a biggey-the N-word and all—but turn on any rap station and its mentioned about every third verse....along with ‘bithes’ and ‘hos.’ It’s ironic a word can be simultaneously so offensive and so shamelessly used at the same time.

Also, remember when Reggie White went in front of the Wisconsin State Legislature and made a fool of himself using a bunch of stereotypes? Well, we didn’t ruin this guy. He apologized and we moved on.

Bottom line: It’s time to give the word police a little less power in this country. People make mistakes. If they apologize earnestly, then we all just have to let it go.


18 posted on 06/22/2013 10:24:38 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Blacks are also allowed to disparage whites in the most repulsive ways without consequence.


19 posted on 06/22/2013 10:26:29 AM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Also weird hypocrisy with those so outraged having no problem applying comparable terms to others (”teabaggers” etc).


20 posted on 06/22/2013 10:26:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Crap, the blacks around here where I live drive Mercedes, dress to the NINES, and seem to be doing just freaking fine. I don’t get it. It’s HISTORY. Get OVER IT already!!!!


21 posted on 06/22/2013 10:31:08 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Impala64ssa

He’s triangulating. She’s somebody he can defend on “free speech” grounds because he doesn’t think there are other serious grounds to reproach her. You could say it’s because they don’t disagree politically. Soon enough a case will come up involving somebody he wants to take down and he’ll do so.


22 posted on 06/22/2013 10:32:31 AM PDT by x
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To: Mustangman

Wanna stop the word police? Hold the word police to their PC bs because the stupid will only go bye bye when libs start going bye bye.


23 posted on 06/22/2013 10:34:51 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: ansel12

I’m a white guy from Oakland. During lunch time or after school (its been many yeras now) we’d all play basketball. To many black kids, the game was playfully called N-ball. I must have heard it called N-ball about a billion times in my lifetime. One day, I said, “You guys want to play N-Ball?”...or something to that effect. I got death stares and one dude said, “What do you mean by that?” It was almost like I was the guy who cut off Kunte Kintes foot (from Roots)...thats how much tension I stirred up. I tried to joke my way out of it but, it wasn’t funny to anyone and I learned my lesson that day.

My point is: If black people insist in using this word, it’s going to seep its way into the larger culture....including white culture. Thats how it works. Either the N-word is taboo for all of us or taboo for none of us. How can a woman be fired for using a word that is basically common in most inner cites?

I say it’s politically correct liberal madness. She apologized. Move on!!!


24 posted on 06/22/2013 10:35:30 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: bray

Remember how venomously and successfully the race pimps attacked Perry for having hunted at a ranch that had a rock somewhere from the 60s painted Niggerhead?


25 posted on 06/22/2013 10:37:42 AM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: Impala64ssa
The panel again disagreed, with former New York Times columnist Bob Herbert saying, “For me that word is the line…nobody should be using that word.”

I assume Bob Herbert would also back firing all journalists who have used the term 'teabagger'...

That said, Paula should not have used the term... There are still people alive today who lived with the sting of that word - people who were powerless to fight back. Don't know if people should be fired - that's up to the company - but I wouldn't buy from a company with spokespeople who used the term. So they could kiss my business goodbye.

26 posted on 06/22/2013 10:43:11 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: clintonh8r

Yes, blacks are allowed to disparage whites. The reason for that is that blacks are an officially recognized grievance group by the liberals. We have to be sensitive about the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow laws and all that.

Grievance groups are not held to the same standards of behavior as straight white people are.


27 posted on 06/22/2013 10:44:52 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: livius

“I don’t particularly like Paula Deen because I think she’s a smarmy “movie-Southerner,” and her restaurant (which people stand on line for hours to visit) sux.”

Not saying it’s worth a three hour wait, but Lady & Sons certainly doesn’t suck. Would love to see what places you’re going to by way of comparison.


29 posted on 06/22/2013 10:49:09 AM PDT by AskNotReceiveNot
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To: txhurl

About 25 mi from NYC there was a lake in an area in the Ramapo Mtns called Stag Hill that for years was called N****r Pond. Ironically the people that live around there known as “Jackson Whites”, are a mixed race group whose ancestry includes runaway slaves as well as Lenni Lenapi, Mohican and other tribes. And yes I’ve heard some of them call each other THAT word.


30 posted on 06/22/2013 10:52:44 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: AskNotReceiveNot

The fried chicken tasted like Col. Sanders and was cold. The sides (and Southern sides can be fabulous) were practically out of a can.


31 posted on 06/22/2013 10:53:32 AM PDT by livius
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To: Impala64ssa

Says the guy who hates Christians, and would seek the guillotine for Sarah Palin (almost anyone on the right) if they merely burped.

This is one libtard too many for me.


32 posted on 06/22/2013 10:54:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kennedy: Today I am a Berliner / Reagan: Gorbachev tear down this wall / Obama: I can't read this...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You are right she is a lefty even campaigned for ozero and the big mooch.


33 posted on 06/22/2013 10:56:29 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Impala64ssa

it must be great to be a liberal like maher, and to be able to ask a reasonable question, but if you are a white, Christian conservative male, you’re not allowed to say anything.


34 posted on 06/22/2013 10:59:38 AM PDT by willywill
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To: BunnySlippers

She will probably go back to being an agoraphobic. She had extreme problems with it before cooking got her out. BTW, I am a Southern girl, raised in Charleston in the sixties and my mama would have washed my mouth out with soap if I had ever uttered that word. It’s all in the raisin’.


35 posted on 06/22/2013 11:02:36 AM PDT by Semperfiwife (Why does the IRS hate us??)
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To: Impala64ssa

I don’t care for Bill Maher or Paula Deen. But if I had to choose one for a next door neighbor, I’d pick Paula Deen. She apparently talks trashy once every 20 years, while Maher does it every day.

As for the N-word, it’s trash talk. It defines the person using it as uncouth. But it’s hardly a capital crime and the concern about it is way out of proportion to any harm it causes. It’s just one of many foul words that have no place in civil discourse.

Sticks and stones and all that.


36 posted on 06/22/2013 11:05:14 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Impala64ssa

Interesting defender. It is good that the “Liberal Community” feeds on its own; i.re. firing them. However, there is nothing the liberal “community” fears more than the word for which this poor woman loses her job. The forlorn attempt to suppress the use of the term is ridiculous as the term in question is often so descriptive and places the object of the term in proper perspective.


37 posted on 06/22/2013 11:05:28 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Impala64ssa
One of those rare times when Bill Maher actually makes sense.

Only because it's self-serving.

Maher's is actually preemptively defending his future "privilege" to call Sarah Palin a c*** and tweets like, “Wow, Jesus just f*cked #TimTebow bad! And on Xmas Eve! Somewhere in hell Satan is tebowing, saying to Hitler ‘Hey, Buffalo’s killing them’”

I'd like to know why the single word "n*gger" is more offensive than the above. ANYBODY??

38 posted on 06/22/2013 11:08:08 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: Impala64ssa

Yes, they are an odd little enclave there. I think they are basically hillbillies. There’s been some problems up there lately, I think there was an incident with some cops and somebody got shot, maybe killed (I can’t remember if it was a cop or a non=cop) and then I think they were/are having some “Kelo” like eminent domain disputes with the powers that be.


39 posted on 06/22/2013 11:08:43 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Impala64ssa

maybe he can sign her onto his show and have her do a ‘sensitivity’ segment from the kitchen.


40 posted on 06/22/2013 11:13:22 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: DoughtyOne
Says the guy who hates Christians, and would seek the guillotine for Sarah Palin (almost anyone on the right) if they merely burped.

(See my post #38, D1.)

Maher and the vulgarians of the Left have a license to impugn, slander, and threaten conservatives with impunity. Palin and Tim Tebow in particular have been victimized -- and even openly threatened. It's Open Season on Christians in the America mostly founder BY Christians. The Media and "Entertainment" outlets are leading their satanic crusade.

41 posted on 06/22/2013 11:15:49 AM PDT by USS Johnston (Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be bought at the price of chains & slavery? - Patrick Henry)
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To: jocon307

There was some kind of altercation involving some Mahwah police and NJ Troopers where the cops claimed self defense. Also there’s an ongoing lawsuit they filed against Ford, allegedly when Ford had an assembly plant in Mahwah they used an area of the Ramapo Mtns as an illegal dumping ground


42 posted on 06/22/2013 11:16:31 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The reason for that is that blacks are an officially recognized grievance group by the liberals.

Now you did it I officially can't stop laughing. Good one! Can I use it?

43 posted on 06/22/2013 11:16:40 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911

Yes, please use that description of grievance groups. It sure seems that liberals judge people and situations based on what group people fit into, and what grievances, real or imagined, that these groups have.


44 posted on 06/22/2013 11:20:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Impala64ssa
Paula Dean has her own magazine and restaurant and various cooking tools have her name on them.

She didn't say that word on TV. She said it in a joke that a white worker heard so no black person was involved. She is 66 and grew up in Georgia where that word was used back then and she admitted she said that word to her husband one time in those days when she was attacked by a black person.

If I had been attacked, I surely might use that word when I got home, just like she did.

My mother grew up in the 1800s in Arkansas and that word was the only word they used in those days and she never stopped identifying blacks in any other way. It was just an English word she used for identification. I heard that word during all my growing up and I never used the word just because I don't know why. I think I used colored in those earlier days of my live. Then, at some point, the word colored changed maybe to African American. Then, black was used.

Since my mother didn't know another word to use, I guess she should have been sent to prison.

I don't give a flip which word is used and it's too bad about Paula - they should not have fired her.

45 posted on 06/22/2013 11:21:21 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: USS Johnston

I agree. Your posts are both good. Maher and the Left do as they please, not as they say...


46 posted on 06/22/2013 11:22:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kennedy: Today I am a Berliner / Reagan: Gorbachev tear down this wall / Obama: I can't read this...)
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To: Impala64ssa

It is moments like this, which give me a small degree of hope, for our future.

Right now, America is in the grip of a monopolistic bunch of self-serving media dolts.

Less so than it used to be, but still the media is a force - and since they are not in the middle of the road politically, they are a force against good.

Currently the media operates in lockstep. Observe the nightly news shows. The three of them, on “networks” for example. All are identical.

The same crews, all cover the exact same handful of stories, night after night. Just as bad is that local networks also cover another same handful of stories.

Not only that, but they cover the handful of stories, with the same SLANT. National and local.

Now with Fox, there is a shard of balance, but still our media operates as one gigantic thought.

To the extent outsiders are ever more excluded - the circle actually served by the news, shrinks ever smaller.

In this case, Maher is absolutely right.

He’s usually so wrong, so as to render his view somewhat moot. But on this he’s right.

Good job just this once, Maher.


47 posted on 06/22/2013 11:24:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: BunnySlippers

The political correctness furies will hound her where ever she goes because she exercised her first amendment right to free speech on something she said many many years ago, when freedom of speech was still allowed in the land.


48 posted on 06/22/2013 11:26:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Musical Inspiration to ‘lighten’ your day.

Victoria Jackson: “There’s A Communist Living in the White House!!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWi182CMJY8


49 posted on 06/22/2013 11:31:27 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Mustangman; ansel12; Norm Lenhart; FlingWingFlyer

Here’s the problem.

In any society or race, there are always idiots. In the U.S. that’s about half.

Since the negro race only comprises about 10% of the population in the U.S., that means there are many more white idiots than there are black idiots.


50 posted on 06/22/2013 11:43:01 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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