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Gov. Deval Patrick says he is worried about push in Congress to cut food stamps
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Posted on 06/22/2013 3:20:42 PM PDT by matt04

With new statistics showing a heavy reliance on food stamps in cities such as Holyoke and Springfield, Gov. Deval L. Patrick said he is concerned about a move in Congress to cut the assistance program for low-income families including tens of thousands of people in Massachusetts.

"I'm worried about the future of the program," Patrick told The Republican. "I am worried about the fact that so many people need the program. And that has to do with the bottom falling out of the global economy and our climbing out of that, slowly but surely."

Patrick, a two-term Democrat, said his family received food stamps when he was a child growing up in Chicago.

"It's a modest benefit," Patrick said. "It's not a way to live lavishly. It's just a way to sustain yourself until you can get up on your own feet. The reason the program utilization has expanded in the last several years is because more people have needed them and we're doing a better job of finding where those people are and who they are."

After some astronomical growth in the program over the past decade in Western Massachusetts and across the country, Congress is considering a new farm bill that would reduce spending for food stamps.

In Massachusetts, leaders of the state House of Representatives are pushing an anti-fraud bill that would require photos on state electronic benefit cards for welfare and food-stamp recipients.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: devalpatrick; foodstamps; massachusetts; patrick; snap
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Then why do I see so many SNAP recipients buying $40 birthday cakes, steaks, etc. Care to explain that Deval?
1 posted on 06/22/2013 3:20:42 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

Don’t forget pressure cookers, nails and tacks.


2 posted on 06/22/2013 3:22:43 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: matt04

Like the IRS refunds that went to 41,000 illegals
at one address (requiring the US Postal Office to
probably set up a new zip code or two), Patricks’ EBTs
no doubt go by the thousands (without any record)
to nameless criminal illegals at single addresses.


3 posted on 06/22/2013 3:25:01 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: matt04

Can someone tell me why Auto parts stores now accept EBT cards?


4 posted on 06/22/2013 3:25:46 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: matt04

He could cut them in his state himself and have a little control.

When the GOP took over in Michigan they cut food stamps to some 36,000 college students. Jenny Granholm had made them available to all college students regardless of need. We had millionaire trust fund babies getting food stamps.


5 posted on 06/22/2013 3:25:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: matt04

Panem et circenses if the emperor is to retain power.


6 posted on 06/22/2013 3:26:39 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: icwhatudo

The EBT card is more than food stamps. Not all EBT cards are cash capable because some are strictly for food.


7 posted on 06/22/2013 3:27:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: matt04

“Then why do I see so many SNAP recipients buying $40 birthday cakes, steaks, etc. Care to explain that Deval?”

To keep ‘em fat, ignorant, entitled and votin’ Rat.


8 posted on 06/22/2013 3:28:28 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: matt04

it is not the cut in food stamps that ought to be the lead story, but rather who qualifies for stamps. IMO, Mid-income earners have no business qualifying for food stamps and other poverty benefits, as they do!


9 posted on 06/22/2013 3:28:46 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: matt04

If you’re going to push for food stamps to be rolled back, then make sure American jobs are growing.

Bring back American jobs first.


10 posted on 06/22/2013 3:29:32 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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matt04 ~:” Then why do I see so many SNAP recipients buying $40 birthday cakes, steaks, etc. Care to explain that Deval? “

No ! And Deval doesn’t want to release names of the fraud in Welfare Benefits either !
No matter that they moved or died !
‘Taxachussetts’ deserves what they elected .. another fraud !


11 posted on 06/22/2013 3:30:00 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: icwhatudo

Some in my area have have Coke or Pepsi coolers at the checkout. Maybe that has something to do with it?


12 posted on 06/22/2013 3:30:52 PM PDT by matt04
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To: cripplecreek

Not in Assachusetts, they are for “ anything goes” but mostly for fraud!


13 posted on 06/22/2013 3:31:27 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: matt04

Governor Patrick’s words tell you all you need to know about the Democratic Party’s agenda. They never want to repeal that program because their entire political survival depends upon keeping a significant number of Americans dependent on entitlement benefits. If he really cared about the people of his state he would be talking about welfare reform but we know that’s not going to happen. When will this country wake up?


14 posted on 06/22/2013 3:33:01 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: matt04

At $.60 per face value per dollar , how are people going to afford their drugs ?
Photo ID will never get passed thru the State legislature !


15 posted on 06/22/2013 3:34:09 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: acapesket

http://www.mass.gov/eohhs/consumer/basic-needs/food/snap/using-the-electronic-benefits-transfer-ebt-card.html


16 posted on 06/22/2013 3:34:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: matt04

‘our climbing out of that, slowly but surely’

How do Dems continually get away with the ‘economy is getting better’ crap?? Have they looked around?? Never mind, I know how they get away with it.


17 posted on 06/22/2013 3:37:17 PM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: matt04

Here is an idea: No food stamps if you have cable TV or Internet.


18 posted on 06/22/2013 3:37:32 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: dowcaet

Cutting foods stamps would be the correct thing to do. There are so many obese degenerates on food stamps that they need some help.


19 posted on 06/22/2013 3:39:41 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: The Free Engineer

Only exception, if they have children in school and have the most basic/cheapest internet available in that area.


20 posted on 06/22/2013 3:49:10 PM PDT by matt04
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Deval Patrick is an idiot----he refused to divulge info WRT massive public assistance to the Tsarnaev's (on Obomba's orders?).

But state welfare officials were forced to come clean b/c the info is available to lawmakers. State Rep David Linsky called on the Mass Dept of Transitional Assistance to provide the info..... issuing an ultimatum, giving them 24 hours to provide the info.

The Boston Herald published the state's response: 'My office is working to fully comply with your request,' DTA interim commissioner Stacey Monahan wrote, saying they were only providing a summary 'given the great interest in this matter.'

Chechen immigrants Tsarnaev parents were eligible as legal, non-citizen residents who claimed "asylum" status and met the eligibility criteria for DTA, DTA interim commissioner Stacey Monahan said in a letter to David Linsky, Chairman of the Mass House Post Audit and Oversight Committee.

On Thursday, multiple state agencies, at the prompting of Gov Patrick, refused to comment on the brothers' benefits.

<><> WRT Tamerlan receiving UI benefits, Labor dept spokesman Kevin Franck refused to comment....

<><> Univ of Mass-- Dartmouth spokesman Robert Connolly refused to comment on the financial aid app of 19 -year-old soph Dzhokhar. 'It is our position - and I believe the accepted position in higher education - that student records including academic records and financial records (including financial aid) cannot under federal law be released without a student’s consent.'

<><> The FCC would not discuss whether the suspected bombers had govt-paid cellphones.

<><> Cambridge housing officials would not comment on if the brothers had Section 8 rental subsidy offered by the HUD to low income households.

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UPDATE Benefits for entire family of bombing suspects likely exceeded $100k
WCRB ^ | 4/29/2013 | By Janet Wu / FR Posted by Alistair Stratford IV

BOSTON — State lawmakers have launched an investigation into whether the suspects in the Boston bombings improperly received public benefits. The House Committee on Post Audit and Oversight is reviewing hundreds of documents collected from state agencies that may have provided benefits to the suspects or their families since 2002.

Sources who have seen the 500 pages of documents sent to the House Committee on Post Audit and Oversight told News Center 5 that the entire Tsarnaev family, including (1) the two bombing suspects' parents, (2) the two suspects themselves, (3) their sisters, (4) the widow of the suspect killed, and, (5) their child -- received "every conceivable public benefit available out there."

(Excerpt) Read more at wcvb.com ...

SOURCE http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/metro/hearing-set-to-look-at-tsarnaev-family-welfare-benefits/-/11971628/19933058/-/9yagjz/-/index.html#ixzz2RtfE87js

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$100K is the tip of the iceberg----the America-hating Tsarnaev's collected bigtime----rode the US gravy train using several identites. The bomber brothers' lavish style could not have been financed merely w/ welfare checks, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc etc etc.

A look at dead bomber Tamerlan's reading list on Amazon shows he researched several books WRT forging new identities (each identity pocketing US govt freebies).

TAMERLAN'S READING LIST--PUT THIS IN YOUR BROWSER
http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html? ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=1PNVMAW2D4CT1

The smirking, self-satisfied, smug, arrogance on the
faces of the Tsarnaev brothers looks awfully familiar.

It's b/c we've seen the defiant, unflinching
gaze, and those phony smiles, many times. Pasted
on the faces of illegals blotting our landscape.

Boston was a prelude to the destruction the latter are hatching.

21 posted on 06/22/2013 3:56:34 PM PDT by Liz
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To: matt04
feh...

22 posted on 06/22/2013 4:17:07 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: matt04

Duval should be working on getting his peeps out of slavery.


23 posted on 06/22/2013 4:30:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: matt04

Oh noes! No eats for Chechen Jihadists!


24 posted on 06/22/2013 4:38:43 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: matt04

The poor welfare queens must get off their asses on on their feet... Must not stress them out.


25 posted on 06/22/2013 4:41:29 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: Diogenesis

So every food stamp recipient is responsible for the IRS fraud?


26 posted on 06/22/2013 5:21:36 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: matt04

Patrick is right. The problem is the economy. And the way to cut food stamps is to restore American jobs. The best and easiest way to do that is raise import tariffs and put Americans back to work.

For starters tariffs on incoming goods ought to at least be equal to the tax burden on domestic producers.

And secondly, the cost of American unemployment benefits, medicaid and food stamps for those willing to work should also be applied to foriegn goods. Because those foreign goods are costing us indirectly by raising American unemployment.


27 posted on 06/22/2013 5:24:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: matt04

Republicans are going to end up shooting themselves in the foot again by talking about cutting aid to the poor instead of talking about how to fix the economy. That’s how democrats win elections.


28 posted on 06/22/2013 5:27:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: matt04

Republicans are going to end up shooting themselves in the foot again by talking about cutting aid to the poor instead of talking about how to fix the economy. That’s how democrats win elections.


29 posted on 06/22/2013 5:27:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: icwhatudo

The EBT card has a food side (SNAP) and a cash side (TANF - welfare). One or both may have funds. There are no restrictions on the cash side other than gambling and a few things.


30 posted on 06/22/2013 5:28:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: matt04

“I am worried about the fact that so many people need the program”

That is a lie. If they can afford tattoos, manicures & pedicures, new cars & all the crap they put on them, they can afford to feed themselves.


31 posted on 06/22/2013 5:31:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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If they can afford tattoos, manicures & pedicures

Hopefully, the tattoo is a one-time cost. The manicures and pedicures should properly be categorized as recurring costs. lol

A lot of people get about about food stamps (I'm not angry but do believe eligible food categories should be tightened up), but USDA do-not-grow subsidies put them to shame.

I knew a well-off couple sitting in their apartment who owned some land and got this:

Direct payment subsidies are provided without regard to the economic need of the recipients or the financial condition of the farm economy...Direct payments of subsidies are limited to $40,000 per person or $80,000 per couple.[14]

32 posted on 06/22/2013 5:38:30 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: icwhatudo

“Can someone tell me why Auto parts stores now accept EBT cards?”

Because EBT cards are actually money cards that look like a credit card. Wouldn’t want to stigmatize those using them. Many of the cards work at just about anywhere including casinos.

I have seen tattoo parlors who advertise they accept them.


33 posted on 06/22/2013 5:42:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks matt04.


34 posted on 06/22/2013 5:47:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: DannyTN

The unemployed should me doing community service...let them work at least four days a week.


35 posted on 06/22/2013 5:48:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: steve86

Swipe your EBT for porn and tattoos as Massachusetts vetos food stamp reform

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, a Democrat whose candidacy has often served as a template from which President Barack Obama has taken his cue, vetoed a bill to reform what you could buy with the Cards EBT State and food stamps. The bill Patrick vetoed would have banned EBT cards to be used for “tattoos, weapons, pornography, body piercings, jewelry, fines and bonds,” - Your Jewish News.com

http://www.examiner.com/article/swipe-your-ebt-for-porn-and-tattoos-as-massachusetts-vetos-food-stamp-reform

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/fd/f3/1342212143_5328_EBT.jpg?itok=c8ODzS29


36 posted on 06/22/2013 5:52:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: caww
"The unemployed should me doing community service...let them work at least four days a week."

So your going to create make work jobs for them? That will cost more than just cutting them a check for unemployment.

37 posted on 06/22/2013 5:56:36 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: matt04

You can also buy fancy cocktail mixes, as we’ve seen on another thread.


38 posted on 06/22/2013 6:26:06 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: matt04

Why the F*** can you buy frickin’ Coke and Pepsi with EBT!?

I get irate when I hear about this crap.


39 posted on 06/22/2013 6:27:00 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: DannyTN

No it won’t cost more to have them work...they’ll be off the rolls in a heartbeat rather than do garbage work or sweep nd mow lawns.....droves will find work they want ..


40 posted on 06/22/2013 6:30:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: DannyTN

No it won’t cost more to have them work...they’ll be off the rolls in a heartbeat rather than do garbage work or sweep nd mow lawns.....droves will find work they want ..


41 posted on 06/22/2013 6:39:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: dinodino

In MA things like Lobster, Filet and Cakes can all be purchase with EBT. Basically any food item that is not taxed (such as ready to eat foods at the deli, etc.)

I have seen a huge $75 cake and about $150 of steaks paid for with EBT. It was for the 8-10 y/o son of the welfare queen, who spent half the time in line on their iPhone while their son was playing a game in their iPod Touch.


42 posted on 06/22/2013 7:26:52 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

This receipt is authentic - although the EBT card holder didn't make the purchase - her (ex) boyfriend did. If I remember the story correctly, someone found the receipt in the store's parking lot and launched it onto the Internet.

43 posted on 06/22/2013 7:51:54 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: matt04

There are two choices, reduce the amount spent on food stamps, or reduce the number of recipients


44 posted on 06/22/2013 8:35:59 PM PDT by Figment
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To: DannyTN

“The best and easiest way to do that is raise import tariffs and put Americans back to work.”

Raising prices to consumers will not do a thing to increase jobs in America


45 posted on 06/22/2013 9:03:01 PM PDT by Figment
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To: steve86

” There are no restrictions on the cash side other than gambling and a few things.”

You should have stopped at “there are no restrictions” because there aren’t any. Even food stamp side of the card can be converted to cash without breaking any law


46 posted on 06/22/2013 9:07:23 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Figment
"Raising prices to consumers will not do a thing to increase jobs in America"

But raising tariffs will. Initially the foreign firms will try to absorb the cost, reducing their profits and giving our government an added revenue stream. One that the founding fathers approved of. The reason they will absorb it, is that you always price what the market will bear. If Foreign firms could have raised their prices without incurring competition they already would have.

If they can't successfully absorb the tariff, then the foreign firms will raise prices to our consumers. But that will open the door for American firms to start up and compete against them. That will put Americans back to work.

47 posted on 06/22/2013 9:09:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Figment
"Raising prices to consumers will not do a thing to increase jobs in America"

But raising tariffs will. Initially the foreign firms will try to absorb the cost, reducing their profits and giving our government an added revenue stream. One that the founding fathers approved of. The reason they will absorb it, is that you always price what the market will bear. If Foreign firms could have raised their prices without incurring competition they already would have.

If they can't successfully absorb the tariff, then the foreign firms will raise prices to our consumers. But that will open the door for American firms to start up and compete against them. That will put Americans back to work.

48 posted on 06/22/2013 9:09:00 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Figment
That's a figment of your imagination.

In addition, the Agriculture Department (USDA) has cut “trafficking” — the sale of SNAP benefits for cash, which violates federal law — by three-quarters over the past 15 years. Only 1 percent of SNAP benefits is trafficked. USDA has also permanently disqualified thousands of retail stores from the program for not following federal requirements. When cases of SNAP fraud are reported in the news, it is because the offenders have been caught, evidence that states and USDA are aggressively combating fraud.

49 posted on 06/22/2013 9:12:40 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: steve86

Not a figment at all. If you have a bank account food stamp money can be transferred just like any other transaction.You need to get out more


50 posted on 06/22/2013 11:06:15 PM PDT by Figment
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