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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 23 June 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 23 June 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 06/23/2013 6:08:49 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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1 posted on 06/23/2013 6:08:49 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Lindsay Goober Graham looks like he has been on a bender.


2 posted on 06/23/2013 6:10:48 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: TomGuy; rodguy911; onyx; maica; Morgan in Denver; Fishtalk; Diogenesis; Girlene

AHA!


3 posted on 06/23/2013 6:12:00 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; CDB; chickadee; ...
This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.

I am on the road today. I'm using a tablet to post, and it is almost impossible to ct and paste, so my normal entries will be missing.

4 posted on 06/23/2013 6:12:17 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thank you for taking the time to host this thread every week!


5 posted on 06/23/2013 6:12:32 AM PDT by Gritty (Our Government is erecting a panopticon state that sees everything, regulates everything-Mark Steyn)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Good Morning All. Thanks AB for doing yeoman’s work each and every Sunday. Sick and tired of amnesty and all its supporters. It is the final nail in the coffin of the greatest experiment in history.


6 posted on 06/23/2013 6:13:25 AM PDT by animal172 (My new hero....Trey Gowdy)
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To: Gritty

Is McCain taking a week off ?


7 posted on 06/23/2013 6:13:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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Morning all

Thanks for the thread AB.

Let’s help him out and ping all the usual suspects to this thread.


8 posted on 06/23/2013 6:14:49 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: All

I am so sick of politicians putting restrictions on US to control the border.
Get tough with Enrique Peña Nieto
We aint screwing the people of Mexico.
Our leaders are screwing us.


9 posted on 06/23/2013 6:15:22 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
FNS

Watching Graham. He says the border is already militarized and the most secure it has ever been. He's giving the same ole spin that goes back a decade with the other tried-and-failed amnesty bills.

Graham says if/when they pass this bill, they will NEVER need to address 'illegal immigration' again.

[Maybe, because they are giving away everything. Related links below:]

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[Senator] Sessions: Border Security Amendment Would Not Hire Agents Until 2017

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Corker Amendment Permanently Offers Citizenship to Those Overstaying Their Visas

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Border security proposal gives Napolitano new waivers
10 posted on 06/23/2013 6:16:23 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: mylife
Hiya AB! ABC This Week with Georgie: While General Alexander discusses NSA cyberspying on US citizens and other nations, Snowden, and Wikileaks, Edward Snowden is enroute to Moscow.

Hong Kong spat upon Obama Administration [AP excerpt]:

Snowden's departure, which came a day after the United States made a formal request for his extradition and gave a pointed warning to Hong Kong against delaying the process of returning him to face trial in the U.S.

The Hong Kong government said in a statement that Snowden left "on his own accord for a third country through a lawful and normal channel."

It acknowledged the U.S. extradition request, but said U.S. documentation did not "fully comply with the legal requirements under Hong Kong law." It said additional information was requested from Washington, but since the Hong Kong government "has yet to have sufficient information to process the request for provisional warrant of arrest, there is no legal basis to restrict Mr. Snowden from leaving Hong Kong."

The statement said Hong Kong had informed the U.S. of Snowden's departure. It added that it wanted more information about alleged hacking of computer systems in Hong Kong by U.S. government agencies which Snowden had revealed.


11 posted on 06/23/2013 6:17:56 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for the thread, AB!.

Gen. Keith Alexander, nsa chief on ABC defending the NSA snatching all our information. This is a matter of national security.

George asks about a claim by Snowden that NSA has the authority to launch offensive measures in an emergency situation. Yes, they do.


12 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:07 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for thread A.B. Snowden is up and on the wing. We’ll see how that all plays out.


13 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:30 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Alas Babylon!

MTP

Durbin, talking about Snowden, invokes The Constitution.

[Amazing that the Libs can invoke it when they need it, but ignore it on most other occasions.]


14 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:21 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: NautiNurse

lol, good for Hong Kong.

Richard Haas on ABC said it damaged our relationship with China. Calls him a felon, not a whistleblower. Says polls are showing people want him prosecuted.

Martha Radditz mocks Snowden and this desire for freedom and ending up in Venezuala.


15 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:24 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: TomGuy

Sen. Lee: “Everyone wants immigration reform”

NO WE DON’T!

There’s nothing wrong with immigration NOTHING. But there is a hell of a lot wrong with border enforcement and dealing with the criminal invaders.

They are not citizens and need a good old dose of “cruel and unusual punishment”.


16 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:52 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: NautiNurse

Snowden is a Red Herring.

Meanwhile Obie is on the beach.

Nothing about this Snowden guy makes sense.


17 posted on 06/23/2013 6:22:18 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Bender, bendover, whatever.


18 posted on 06/23/2013 6:24:00 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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dude (not sure who he is) on ABC - says we need to take out Syrian airfields to prevent Syria being able to move around, prevent them from being able to use chemical weapons (oh, please.) Now says we need to move past the Russians. Says the president needs to make the case for intervention in Syria. (idiot!)

Richard Haas says we need to give them heavier weapons.


19 posted on 06/23/2013 6:24:56 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Alas Babylon!

MTP

Re: Snowden & eavesdropping.

Coburn basically says, ‘trust the gov, they aren’t listening in on your phone calls’.

[When Coburn first went to Congress, he was conservative. He has, however, been in Washington so long that whatever his position is on an issue any more is a toss-up.]


20 posted on 06/23/2013 6:25:51 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I don’t want immigration reform......let’s just start enforcing our current laws....how about we start with that?


21 posted on 06/23/2013 6:26:10 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl

Gabriel Gomez is misguided too.
His argument is for less freedom in the name of security.

Me no like.


22 posted on 06/23/2013 6:27:33 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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Cannot listen to Gomez, MA$$hole RINO candidate.

Turned off the sound when he said “I’m for gay marriage, I’m for the amnesty bill”


23 posted on 06/23/2013 6:27:38 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: TomGuy

Given the fact that at least 40 percent of all illegals are visa-violators (overstaying visas), the “border security” argument is also a bit of a red herring as waged on our side.

To wit: We could “win” that argument and have a foolproof border—but if millions of new “limited” guest worker programs are started, with visas violated at the same rate as today, it would make no difference.

I want a secure border too but without deportations it would matter not.


24 posted on 06/23/2013 6:27:58 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

What’s the difference between Gomez and Markey? Very little in the long run. Both are Massholes.


25 posted on 06/23/2013 6:28:47 AM PDT by animal172 (My new hero....Trey Gowdy)
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To: Girlene

Syria has been moving around for 20 years.
Assad is wiggling his finger at the world.


26 posted on 06/23/2013 6:29:23 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: PaleoBob

“I want a secure border too but without deportations it would matter not.”

Were it up to me I would end the anchor baby situation and then start deporting all of them back to where they came from. I don’t care how much it costs.


27 posted on 06/23/2013 6:31:02 AM PDT by animal172 (My new hero....Trey Gowdy)
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To: Girlene

dude (not sure who he is) on ABC - says we need to take out Syrian airfields to prevent Syria being able to move around, prevent them from being able to use chemical weapons (oh, please.) Now says we need to move past the Russians. Says the president needs to make the case for intervention in Syria. (idiot!)

Richard Haas says we need to give them heavier weapons.


It’s amazing hypocrisy that the Demovik rank and file apparently abides Obama’s suicidal involvement in Syria. At the very least, isn’t it time for the War Is Not the Answer bumperstickers to be scratched off?


28 posted on 06/23/2013 6:31:42 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Girlene
Richard Haas on ABC said it damaged our relationship with China.

LOL--what does he say about the relationship between U.S. and Russia? It seems the whole world is mocking Obama and Jacque F'ing Kerry.

29 posted on 06/23/2013 6:31:47 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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To: animal172

Given Graham and Gomez, castigating conservatives,
and preening under Obama (and Deval Patrick),
exactly HOW does the GOP differ from the DNC?

It does not.


30 posted on 06/23/2013 6:32:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Girlene
says we need to take out Syrian airfields to prevent Syria being able to move around

I don't know about that, unless they attack Israel. I think @$$head is just another installed dictator in the ME, protecting the world from alkida types. It was a mistake to take them out from day one (the Shaw of Iran)

I am, however, not the slightest bit opposed to things mysteriously blowing up in the filthy moslem world...like a street full of rioting islamists screaming "Death to the Great Satan."

31 posted on 06/23/2013 6:35:37 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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I agree with the analysis that Uncle Sam just does not have the time to listen to you talking to Aunt Mabel.

He does have that capability, but he does not have the time.

Is anyone surprised that the Gov monitors things?
We all do
Everyone peeks out the window and susses the neighbors.
I do not find that shocking

Now when we target folks without cause and muck up their lives, things get messy.

Snowden is self loathing spy who is targeting US.


32 posted on 06/23/2013 6:36:09 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: animal172

Were it up to me I would end the anchor baby situation and then start deporting all of them back to where they came from. I don’t care how much it costs.


It would be a LOT cheaper than what we are paying in our emergency rooms, prisons, courts, on our streets, in our drug and alcohol programs, etc. The illegals bring crime, violence, disease, incest, pedophilia, unlicensed and drunk driving, gang war, an insatiable appetite for welfare...

And while we’re at it, how about no more political asylum for Chechen Muslims? Or any Muslims. Aren’t there 28 Islamic nations that can give them asylum?


33 posted on 06/23/2013 6:36:24 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Rand Paul destroyed Candy Commie on immigration. She tried to make the case that Home Security Dept was not political and he said so you think the president is not political?

He never let her interrupt or filibuster her questions.


34 posted on 06/23/2013 6:36:27 AM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

That guy stinks on ice.


35 posted on 06/23/2013 6:37:01 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Girlene
I don’t want immigration reform......let’s just start enforcing our current laws....how about we start with that?

No daylight there Milady.

36 posted on 06/23/2013 6:38:14 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for all you do buddy!


37 posted on 06/23/2013 6:38:16 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Girlene

ABC Immigration reform roundtable - there are too many people on this panel. As far as I can tell, they are all libs or Rhinos, except for one representative.

one of the Hispanic dem twins (they didn’t post his name) claims the border is more secure than it has ever been. lololol

amity shlaes (??) - immigrants make the economy stronger (another idiot)

Steve Rattner - opposition to immigration reform is only a social and moral issue, no economic. (idiot)

Takeaway from this panel- immigration must pass, no reason not to. One Republican said bill is too big, likely hasn’t been read by most senators.


38 posted on 06/23/2013 6:38:47 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: PaleoBob

Agreed.


39 posted on 06/23/2013 6:41:30 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Alas Babylon!
‘Comprehensive’ bills are never read, never understood and the rats hide all sorts of goodies within their thousands of pages. Immigration reform is a replay of Obamacare; let the fun begin.
40 posted on 06/23/2013 6:42:21 AM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: Girlene

Every liberal agenda item is social and moral in their definition of morality. It’s how they progress their agenda to destroy America.


41 posted on 06/23/2013 6:42:37 AM PDT by bray (Stop tolerating beheading!)
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To: animal172
What’s the difference between Gomez and Markey?...Both are Massholes.

I'd just as soon have Markey there, being a skunk, instead of the feculent Gomez stinking up the other side of the aisle.

We need fewer and fewer RINOs and more TEApublicans.

42 posted on 06/23/2013 6:42:41 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: mylife
There was a really good debate between Cato and Heritage spokes people on C-spam earlier this morning. Heritage's Robert Rector cleaned the guys clock with such alarming stats that the Cato dud couldn't lie fast enough to make himself look even semi-believeable.

Between obamcare and amnesty if both are not overturned the combined devastation will totally destroy what was once a great country.

43 posted on 06/23/2013 6:43:05 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Girlene
WSJ’s Saturday headline tossed cold water on the immigration bill's passage.
44 posted on 06/23/2013 6:44:19 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: rodguy911

“Between obamcare and amnesty if both are not overturned the combined devastation will totally destroy what was once a great country.”

Amen Brother!


45 posted on 06/23/2013 6:45:31 AM PDT by animal172 (My new hero....Trey Gowdy)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Cannot listen to Gomez, MA$$hole RINO candidate.

Brown redux?

46 posted on 06/23/2013 6:46:00 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: rodguy911

We need 100 Ted Cruz’s in the Senate and 435bin the Congress


47 posted on 06/23/2013 6:46:21 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: bray

Agree! Rand Paul also pointed out that Clapper lied to Americans while Snowden may be more truthful.


48 posted on 06/23/2013 6:47:20 AM PDT by Kahuna
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To: Girlene

ABC Immigration reform roundtable - there are too many people on this panel. As far as I can tell, they are all libs or Rhinos, except for one representative.

one of the Hispanic dem twins (they didn’t post his name) claims the border is more secure than it has ever been. lololol

amity shlaes (??) - immigrants make the economy stronger (another idiot)

Steve Rattner - opposition to immigration reform is only a social and moral issue, no economic. (idiot)

Takeaway from this panel- immigration must pass, no reason not to. One Republican said bill is too big, likely hasn’t been read by most senators.


This is all a great example of how thoroughly unrepresented American conservatives are at this point.

There is simply no one allowed on any of these “public affairs” programs who will address the staggering agenda of problems illegals bring with them to America—and how vital deportation would be to the riddance of these problems.

The costs are never mentioned and deportation isn’t even whispered.

There is no meaningful debate because there is no meaningful opposition. The bolsheviks are the mensheviks, the mensheviks are the bolsheviks, and the rest of us are cannon fodder for the drug gangs, the violence, the disease, the pedophilia, the massive health care and welfare costs, the terrorism, drunk driving, etc.

Say a bad word (meaning a “true” word) about pedro or ahmad and you ain’t gettin’ on TV.


49 posted on 06/23/2013 6:47:36 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: All

On to discussion of the Ben Bernake and the Goldman Sach’s


50 posted on 06/23/2013 6:47:58 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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