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At Georgia Restaurant, Patrons Jump to Defend a Chef From Her Critics (Paula Dean)
NYTimes ^ | 6/23/2013 | KIM SEVERSON

Posted on 06/23/2013 7:24:00 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: rlmorel

I think Paula Deen was raise in a “We always have been Democrat” family. I have run in to go many of these people who will not give it up because mom or dad was a Democrat. They quote what their parents use to say about Republicans. You tell them that it is not the party of their parent but the family tie blinds their hearing.


51 posted on 06/23/2013 9:31:44 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: latina4dubya
I hope not... she is a big fat Obama supporter... she is icky...

At least she was. It's been said a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, and I think she just got mugged.

52 posted on 06/23/2013 9:31:56 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: rlmorel

I enjoy Coulter’s writings... usually agree with her about 90% of the time... Thanks for the suggestion.


53 posted on 06/23/2013 9:33:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: ilovesarah2012

See my post at #45 above.

The problem is, this first third of liberals enables and serves the second set, who then enable and serve the third set.

I think what you are seeing is not that people cheer her losing her livelihood based on a word she used years ago, but that people cheer seeing her consumed by the negative forces she visually (on television) vocally and financially supported and enabled.

I think it is the irony or justness that has people cheering, if cheering is what it can be called. More like grim satisfaction.


54 posted on 06/23/2013 9:36:12 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: rlmorel
Ann Coulter['s] most recent book Mugged: Racial Demagoguery from the Seventies to Obama is very good, and covers all of this in great detail.

It is one of her very best books, and unfortunately the MSM was so terrified of it that they buried it completely. She had previously been invited on morning shows by people like Matt Lauer whenever she released a new book, but not this time. It chronicles a disgraceful history of rioting and deaths that have occurred as a direct result of race-mongering, more often in the North or West than in the New South.

Mugged: Racial Demagoguery from the Seventies to Obama.


55 posted on 06/23/2013 9:36:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: bmwcyle

Agreed 100%. There is a lot of that, too.


56 posted on 06/23/2013 9:37:19 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: Zhang Fei

I see what you did there! Nice graphic treatment!

But you are astute in observing just how lard-ass the people in line are. Wonder if that was typical of all the patrons, or if it was "selective journalism"?

57 posted on 06/23/2013 9:39:47 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Albion Wilde

Yes. That is 100% true. They used to enjoy bringing her a liberal shows at one point, but there were too many instances where she would embarrass the liberal who thought it would be easy to pin that butterfly to the board as a trophy.

Discretion being the better part of valor, I think they simply decided the potential upside of inviting her as a target to throw darts at in a public setting was outweighed by the possibility she would make them look foolish.

Now, they simply just don’t invite her. She understands how that game works, if you are a conservative writer.

I think the best example of this type of behavior against conservative writers is “Unlimited Access” by author Gary Aldrich. He experienced firsthand during the Clinton administration what happens when you try to publish something that is going to skewer the current liberal in charge, whoever that might be.

The converse of that is the wide multitude of anti-Bush or anti-Reagan writers who got plenty of invitations to various television shows as well as fawning, boot licking reviews from all of their contemporaries across the country.


58 posted on 06/23/2013 9:44:18 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is a double sided controversy. On the one hand, Deen sucked up to the Obamas and is now feeling the PC wrath of their reign. She is evidently not favored enough-despite the brownnosing-to be given a pass for PAST language.
Then there is the fact that the PC police are selectively crucifying those who use the ‘n’ word-because if it were universally verboten there would be NO ‘Rap Music or Stars’. In fact, most of the black population would have to be excoriated and ‘ruined’ for it’s daily use. How can one be damned for calling a race of people what THEY THEMSELVES call themselves ? It’s ‘n*g**er’ this and n*gg*r’ that on the streets, in film, in ‘music’. If that’s how you self-identify,what else can someone call you?
And she admitted to committing this grave sin IN THE PAST. Stupid of her. But isn’t this like walking up to the kid who pushed you down in second grade and decking him when he’s 45?
And when did someone’s personality flaws become part of their food? Is her food good? That’s all that should matter. Because if this applies across the board then every restaurant in the country has ex-cons and people with criminal records handling your food-so that ends eating out ANYWHERE if the morality of all owners/employees is not saintly.
Does the general public REALLY want to apply such standards of perfection(retroactively even) to everyone? Who would be left to deal with?


59 posted on 06/23/2013 9:45:06 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.Do what)
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To: rlmorel
Right now, as she is being dragged by both arms down some hallway in a concrete building (figuratively speaking, of course) she is probably wondering why those she admired, sympathized with, and supported are treating her in this fashion. She was after all, in her mind, “one of them”.

Eventually, many members of the current ruling junta will be having the same experience. If not in this life, then in the next. "Rethink" before it's too late, progs!

60 posted on 06/23/2013 9:45:23 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Albion Wilde
Eventually, many members of the current ruling junta will be having the same experience.

Yep, there are going to be a lot of "Strelnikovs" who will find out too late, that their turn against the wall is coming, no matter how loyal to the cause they were.

61 posted on 06/23/2013 9:46:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Albion Wilde

It can be argued quite convincingly that liberal policies are inherently racist, and deleterious to the well-being of blacks in this country.

As Ann Coulter is fond of saying, “We could make a case of that in court…”


62 posted on 06/23/2013 9:46:50 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: rlmorel
Right now, as she is being dragged by both arms down some hallway in a concrete building (figuratively speaking, of course) she is probably wondering why those she admired, sympathized with, and supported are treating her in this fashion. She was after all, in her mind, “one of them”.

Solzhenitsyn was a gift to mankind...

63 posted on 06/23/2013 9:47:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: GOPJ
Solzhenitsyn was a gift to mankind...

I've been reading a lot of his stuff lately, and I'm convinced he's one of the most brilliant men whoever lived. He foresaw everything that was to happen to the West, and he tried to warn us.

64 posted on 06/23/2013 9:48:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: rlmorel
I think it is the irony or justness that has people cheering, if cheering is what it can be called. More like grim satisfaction.

OK, but gloating is a sin.

Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles, lest the Lord see it and be displeased, and turn away his anger from him.
--Proverbs 24:17-18 ESV

My question is, has Martha Stewart "reached out" yet?

65 posted on 06/23/2013 9:52:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: SoFloFreeper

THE REAL REASON SHE’S TOAST;

Paula Deen: “Michelle Obama loves fried food and ate more than any other guest I’ve had on my show”

That is a NO, NO... Exposing the First Cow, is the end of anyone’s career.. :)

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047901/Paula-Deen-Michelle-Obama-ate-guest-Ive-show.html#ixzz2X3jSGe1B
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66 posted on 06/23/2013 9:56:07 AM PDT by carlo3b (Speechless in Sugar Land)
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To: Albion Wilde

I find it one of the most fascinating aspects of liberalism. It would be completely comical, if it were not so completely deadly, and mortally serious.

This, I think stems from another flaw of liberalism. To liberals, there is no past beyond that past they can hijack or use as a tool to serve their immediate ends.

Put another way, the past is merely a malleable tool to liberals, in contrast to the way many conservatives view the past, which serves to us as a testbed of ideas and actions, and that past we observe is used as a guide to our current and future situations.

I honestly do not believe that liberals view history or the past in that fashion. They simply can’t, how else could you explain the failure of communism, socialism, and the success of capitalism? More specifically, how on earth can they use history to buttress their views on taxes and the effect they have on economies?

Another great book by David Horowitz, an author who speaks with great authority on liberalism (because he was one) is “Unholy Alliance”, in which he talks about liberalism’s views on the past and present with respect to government, in which he states that there is no government past or present that committed liberals will support or respect, since all of them must be destroyed to get the utopia they seek to reach in the future.


67 posted on 06/23/2013 9:57:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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Wonder how long her Pharma endorsement gig will last
68 posted on 06/23/2013 10:01:37 AM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: Albion Wilde

Yes, it would be a sin. In my case, I can hardly gloat. We are on the losing side. I see my approval of her “being hoisted on her own petard” as being just desserts, actual justice, not gloating.

Similar to someone who is doing something stupid who has the suggestion made that they should do something differently. Not only being ignored, they ridicule the person making the suggestion, then it comes to pass that they are injured. I think it is perfectly possible to view with sympathy the injury, yet at the same time temper it with the “grim satisfaction” that their failure and injury may serve as an object lesson to others pursuing something equally stupid.

Such as supporting liberalism and nanny statism.

But that is just me.


69 posted on 06/23/2013 10:04:02 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: rlmorel

Sometimes, one’s great purpose in life, is to serve as a warning to others.


70 posted on 06/23/2013 10:05:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: bmwcyle
They quote what their parents use to say about Republicans. You tell them that it is not the party of their parent but the family tie blinds their hearing.

I have always found that level of intellectual laziness disgusting. You can't reason with those people because they don't actually think; they just repeat what they're told like smiling little robots. They're not worth a conversation beyond "Hello, how are you?"

71 posted on 06/23/2013 10:15:36 AM PDT by EricT. (MENE MENE TEKEL PARSIN)
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To: dfwgator

Hahaha...THAT is one of my favorite sayings...I just used it last night.

My favorite expression is the rusty bow of the ship poking out of the water with that saying below it.

Soooo true.


72 posted on 06/23/2013 10:15:37 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: GOPJ

I just finished reading “The Gulag Archipelago” AGAIN, and it scares the crap out of me.

Look how far the Soviet government went in such short a time. Why do we have the conceit we would be somehow immune to it?


73 posted on 06/23/2013 10:17:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: katykelly
IIRC , it was Emeril that made the FN.

I thought so too, but he's not even mentioned in the network's "timeline" on Facebook. It was founded in '93 and the first network-produced show was Bobby Flay's in '96. Maybe Emeril's show was produced elsewhere and merely licensed to FN.

The next two shows hit in '99 - Tyler Florence and Alton Brown. Paula's show didn't begin until 2001, so she was part of the third wave of FN programming, along with Rachel Rae.

I sort of lost interest a few years ago when the entire network kissed Michelle Obama's ample butt. Which, BTW, makes it even more entertaining that right now the network is catching hell on Facebook for pulling Deen's show.

74 posted on 06/23/2013 10:19:55 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Albion Wilde
But you are astute in observing just how lard-ass the people in line are. Wonder if that was typical of all the patrons, or if it was "selective journalism"?

After 20 years living in various Southern states, my educated guess is that it's typical.

A guy could get rich selling diabetic supplies in the South.

(It's still one of the better parts of the country, though.)

75 posted on 06/23/2013 10:24:34 AM PDT by EricT. (MENE MENE TEKEL PARSIN)
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To: House Atreides

“racial epithets” - 2013

“colloquial descriptive nouns” - 1950’s and earlier.

BTW, my ‘redneck’ grandfather, who used the “N” word at times, would have jumped all over me for insulting those same people if I had called one “black” or “African”.


76 posted on 06/23/2013 10:27:00 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: rlmorel
With regard to Mugged, she was too late, by maybe two months, in getting it published, as the arc of presidential campaign expectations keeps getting moved earlier and earlier. She had clearly intended Mugged to influence voters in the 2012 election to stop looking at skin color, reflexively responding to white guilt or giving in to emotional blackmail as their "unreasons" for voting for Obama. The book was released September 25, 2012 -- too late to develop a groundswell of demand independent of the major networks or for the message to sink in by word of mouth; and it is a shame. One of her best books ever.

Jimmy Valentine's Brother, BufordP and myself went to her very well-attended book signing in DC (sponsored by Americans for Tax Reform, Brent Bozell, Human Events, Penguin Publishing USA and WMAL) when it came out; so each of us has a signed first edition. There are a lot of Coulter haters on FR now, but when I read a book, I consider the book and what is in it independently from her often-careless sarcasm and spouting off on the air. She researches carefully, cites all her sources, and can frame a debate -- something fewer freepers seem to want to take the trouble to do any more.

77 posted on 06/23/2013 10:29:10 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Heart of Georgia

I don’t think she should’ve apologized and grovelled. We don’t need Word Police. We need to accept that people say dumb things, and just move on.


78 posted on 06/23/2013 10:30:25 AM PDT by grania
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To: magglepuss

The timing of the breaking of this story is oddly coincidental to the opening of the Zimmerman trial IMO.


Because the Zimmerman lynching by the Black Racists is not going as planned.....they needed a new “Honky I Wanna Lynch” and nothing is easier to get White Guilt Liberals on board than a Southern woman who once used a term Trayvon Martin called himself

Stupid that she supported Obama....but even more stupid people are siding with the Black Racists on this....esp if you are white.


79 posted on 06/23/2013 10:32:18 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: Albion Wilde

I disagree with Ann Coulter on some very important issues, but...the truth is the truth.

I find it telling that liberals attack HER, not what she writes...:)

As for her sarcasm, I listen to audiobooks, and I won’t buy an Audiobook of an Ann Coulter work unless she reads it herself! Her voice, intonation, cadence and sarcasm are perfect for the subject at hand.


80 posted on 06/23/2013 10:35:14 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: grania

Hey, where is your brain at?

That is WAAAAY to commonsense!


81 posted on 06/23/2013 10:36:28 AM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: EricT.

I like to hit them with facts they cannot deny. I like to watch them get really uncomfortable. I mind is a terrible thing not to play with.


82 posted on 06/23/2013 10:37:01 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: La Lydia
Yet Bill Maher still has a job ...

Maher insults Christians and Conservatives. In the media world that's career enhancing.

83 posted on 06/23/2013 10:38:21 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: lonestar

I’m 62. Grew up in South Philly. Probably used at least one “racial epithet”
every day of my life. A spade is a spade.


84 posted on 06/23/2013 10:42:26 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: rlmorel
David Horowitz, an author who speaks with great authority on liberalism (because he was one)...

Quite familiar with Horowitz, another one who got dragged down the hall early on in his career. His eyes were opened when his secretary, a mother of small children, was murdered by Black Panthers. He had been a darling the left as an editor of Ramparts magazine with the Berkeley crowd in the late 60s-early 70s. His rejection by the left (at his outrage over the murder and subsequent questioning of the commie dogma) changed him, and since then he has become one of conservatism's dogged generals, taking on one fight after another on campuses around the nation. Maybe there's hope for Paula.

85 posted on 06/23/2013 10:44:14 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: RoosterRedux

The online “Like” page on Facebook is well over 100,000 and that was just as of this morning.


86 posted on 06/23/2013 10:45:11 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: bmwcyle

I’ve tried that. The conversation invariably gets switched to college football, which I find as interesting as the topic of feminine hygiene products.


87 posted on 06/23/2013 10:45:39 AM PDT by EricT. (MENE MENE TEKEL PARSIN)
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To: rlmorel
I see my approval of her “being hoisted on her own petard” as being just desserts, actual justice, not gloating.

Not referring to you, my FRiend; but you do hear a lot of it on Deen threads. Sad.

88 posted on 06/23/2013 10:45:54 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes, when you aren’t used to heavy creams, real butter and oil, it can get to you. My daughter can’t handle heavily greasy meals either.


89 posted on 06/23/2013 10:46:24 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: EricT.

I know, right? My relatives’ idea of a vegetable side dish is that a few beans are the occasional chunks one encounters in the melted cheese, breadcrumbs and butter.


90 posted on 06/23/2013 10:49:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: ilovesarah2012

it means what the market wants it to mean... as for me, i do not give crap if she loses her livelihood... people lose their jobs all the time for nothing other than the market...


91 posted on 06/23/2013 10:50:31 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: tacticalogic

i think she may even lean more left after this... to prove herself...


92 posted on 06/23/2013 10:53:36 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Maybe she should have run for Senate as a Democrat before revealing the fact that she used the N word. Then everything would have been excused. Never mind the fact that she used this term in describing a black man who shoved a gun in her face while attempting to rob the bank where she worked at the time. He should have tried shoving that gun in my face. I would have referred to him thereafter as the dead guy who tried to rob me.
Funny thing is a person can say anything they want about Sarah Palin and it’s okay.


93 posted on 06/23/2013 11:07:22 AM PDT by cquiggy
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To: katykelly

Yes, definitely Emeril, but Paula was also very important a was Rachel Ray.


94 posted on 06/23/2013 11:46:30 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: GOPJ

yes, exactly. So what is really behind the Paula Deen firing?


95 posted on 06/23/2013 12:26:10 PM PDT by Burlem
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To: grania

It was actually more than dumb, considering she’s in the spotlight and hopes to have a lot of business from a lot of different backgrounds.

Celebrities either have to walk that thin PC line, or risk losing business over it. We don’t like it, but it’s the truth.

Personally, I don’t care either way. She did what she felt she had to do in order to try and survive and come out with her business intact and I can’t blame her. But doing what she did, where employees could hear, was surprising to me, and disappointing.

But she doesn’t have to please me, just her fans. I ate at her restaurant once. Never will again and would not recommend it to anyone other than as a novelty. Nothing she does appeals to me, personally, but she has her following.

And I really don’t like anyone, black or white, to use that word. It makes me uncomfortable. I was raised an Air Force brat and there were all skin colors in my neighborhood - and my family never used that word. Plain and simple, It’s just crass to me - and uncalled for.


96 posted on 06/23/2013 1:11:59 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: Albion Wilde

Yes, Moses shouldered great wisdom down the mountain...

Thou shalt not be overweight.

Thou shalt not use words that made people feel put upon.

Thou shalt not drink cheap coffee.

Thou shalt not make fun of entitled brats or liberal elites.

Thou shalt not confuse shallow fashion with great wisdom.


97 posted on 06/23/2013 1:14:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: rlmorel
“Remember that they have succeeded when they (the government) does not have to censor your speech or thoughts, but that you censor yourself.

I believe the term was a component of “ThoughtCrime” called “Crimethink”.

Not to parse definitions but I believe you are referring to “Crimestop”

“Crimestop” means to rid oneself of unwanted thoughts, i.e., thoughts that interfere with the ideology of the Party. This way, a person avoids committing thoughtcrime.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

98 posted on 06/23/2013 1:18:28 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Cyber Liberty

“Food was that bad, huh?”

(Didn’t realize this was so long!)

Maybe we went on the wrong day, but the whole experience was that bad. My family took a drive to Savannah, 7 of us, and decided to try PD’s place. Since it was popular, we thought it would be good.

The wait along the sidewalk was about an hour. Once inside the doors, we got on the list and had another long wait — while we conveniently browsed through Paula’s gift shop while trying to kill some time. Both floors.

When we were finally seated, they scrunched us into a tiny booth made for 4 people at the most. They did bring out a chair for someone to sit on the outside, so that helped a bit, but still tight. The 4 women are small and it would have been fine for us, but the men are big guys and we were all bumping elbows, very uncomfortable.

It’s been 3 years, so I don’t remember everything, but the mac & cheese and the mashed potatoes were bad (how on Earth do you mess those up)!!!

And the chicken at the self-serve bar tasted like that Banquet frozen dinner chicken, very tiny pieces, and the bread either wasn’t fresh or it was overdone.

I made the mistake of ordering one of the specials, fried green tomatoes. It was a very expensive order of about 4, maybe 6 slices. I thought they would be like my mom’s, but they were half-raw (crunchy) greasy green tomatoes. But they were hot, so I know they at least put them in long enough to brown the batter.

The only decent thing I had was the cheesecake. But apparently we had overstayed our welcome by that time, because as I was finishing my dessert, the waiter swooped down and grabbed my plate, and I actually stabbed the table with my fork as my plate disappeared. That’s how fast it was.

We laugh about it now, of course.


99 posted on 06/23/2013 1:40:49 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: Heart of Georgia

I have a simple rule, never go to a restaurant with a gift shop.


100 posted on 06/23/2013 1:41:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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