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On the Espionage Act charges against Edward Snowden
Guardian ^ | June 22, 2013 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 06/23/2013 7:47:28 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

The Obama administration leaks classified information continuously. They do it to glorify the President, or manipulate public opinion, or even to help produce a pre-election propaganda film about the Osama bin Laden raid. The Obama administration does not hate unauthorized leaks of classified information. They are more responsible for such leaks than anyone.

What they hate are leaks that embarrass them or expose their wrongdoing. Those are the only kinds of leaks that are prosecuted. The "enemy" they're seeking to keep ignorant with selective and excessive leak prosecutions are not The Terrorists or The Chinese Communists. It's the American people.

The Terrorists already knew, and have long known, that the US government is doing everything possible to surveil their telephonic and internet communications. The Chinese have long known, and have repeatedly said, that the US is hacking into both their governmental and civilian systems (just as the Chinese are doing to the US). The Russians have long known that the US and UK try to intercept the conversations of their leaders just as the Russians do to the US and the UK.

They haven't learned anything from these disclosures that they didn't already well know. The people who have learned things they didn't already know are American citizens who have no connection to terrorism or foreign intelligence, as well as hundreds of millions of citizens around the world about whom the same is true. What they have learned is that the vast bulk of this surveillance apparatus is directed not at the Chinese or Russian governments or the Terrorists, but at them.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; edwardsnowden; fastandfurious; glenngreenwald; impeachnow; irs; nsa; obama; snowden; statesecrets; treason; tyranny; whistleblower

1 posted on 06/23/2013 7:47:28 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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2 posted on 06/23/2013 7:52:45 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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It is the government that should face espionage charges.

3 posted on 06/23/2013 8:00:25 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Do as I say, not as I do!

4 posted on 06/23/2013 8:00:41 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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“But during the Obama presidency, there are now seven such prosecutions: more than double the number under all prior US presidents combined. How can anyone justify that?”

Harrumph. It would double again if the Obama administration would prosecute those within the Obama administration who leaked the state secrets that made Obama look good.

5 posted on 06/23/2013 8:03:33 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Seizethecarp; Tolik
Bookmarked. FReeper Tolik used to have a "Nailed it!" ping list and this article certainly deserves that treatment.

I fear we have lost Tolik, whose last post was in February of 2010.

6 posted on 06/23/2013 8:15:16 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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Snowden did not reveal the Colonel’s secret recipe of 11 herbs.
Snowden did not reveal any of Aunt Jemima’s recipes.

Snowden revealed that the Government is spying on, and perhaps punishing political enemies.

7 posted on 06/23/2013 8:15:26 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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8 posted on 06/23/2013 8:31:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (
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No perhaps about it.

Snowden exposed the unconstitutiuonal,un-needed spying on ordinary Americans, for that some want to punish him.

DICK Cheney!

obama is using the tools Bush and Cheney set up .

Bush spouted nonsense about the Religion Of Peace.

obama spouts evil nonsense about everything.

We went from bad to worse.

Miss Bush yet?

Why? He ignored just about everything conservative to focus on getting the guy who dissed his daddy by launching an undeclared war that cost trillions,and he and clintoon are “brothers” as he said once.

The Washington elite laughs at the American people .

9 posted on 06/23/2013 9:08:40 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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The Elites are laughing at us - they know that even when we finally get it, very few will be willing to do anything about it - and those few who won’t capitulate voluntarily can be handled easily by the Goon squads with threats of unending imprisonment, etc etc etc. The worse thing that has happened since 9/11, to me is the Rule of Law going down the tank, and the brain-deads on the telly saying that’s just fine if they can feeeeeeel safer. Safety is now more important than Freedom - we have neither. We really are blowing it.

10 posted on 06/23/2013 9:34:54 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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Another Holder/Ohaha screw-up. Not easy to throw off the stench of all the O scandals

The stench from the Ohaha screw-ups has no end:

<><> there's the Benghazi stench

<><> Hillary's state dept's coverup of sex scandals---obstructing justice---scrubbing investigations

<><> Eric "Stinkeroo" Holder's doj stenches (ap--rosen PLUS holder suggesting USSC and Congress' Verizon blackberries were monitored)

<><> stencharama: IRS tea party targeting (IRS haters are legion)

<><> IRS stealing thousands of medical records

<><> HHS' Sibelius fund-raising Obamacare providers

<><> NSA snooping--infuriating millions of young twitter/facebook users

<><> IRS sending 32,000 EITC refunds to illegals at ONE address.

<><> Screwing up the Snowden deal.

11 posted on 06/23/2013 10:31:08 AM PDT by Liz
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