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Snowden heads to Venezuela via Moscow, Havana: airline source
Reuters ^ | 6/23/2013

Posted on 06/23/2013 8:14:12 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Yes they can guess there are attempts at just about anything, but GIVING SPECIFICS such as how US hacks or exactly what it hacked gives them a boost!


151 posted on 06/23/2013 10:59:00 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Hawthorn

“Well, you obviously haven’t flown on one of those Asian airlines with their gorgeous stewardesses!”

Yes, he has not flown on Singapore Airlines! That is a given! ;-)


152 posted on 06/23/2013 11:02:42 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: markomalley

This shows that he’s heading to Equador, but who knows what’s accurate anymore. I’m sure he’s elated that all these “leaks” are coming out about him. :)

“WikiLeaks said he was being accompanied by Sarah Harrison, described by them as a UK citizen, journalist and legal researcher.”

“Russia’s Itar-Tass news agency said there is a flight ticket in his name from Moscow to Cuba and that he will then fly on from there. It said that his flight to Havana from Moscow would take place on Monday.”
http://news.sky.com/story/1107174/edward-snowden-requests-asylum-in-ecuador


153 posted on 06/23/2013 11:04:02 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The color is simply a descriptir of the underlying ideology shared by Red China, Russia, Venezuela and Cuba - namely national socialism characterized by radical anti-Americanism.

I understand now that you are a fan of this ideology and its current heartthrob, Edward Snowden.

154 posted on 06/23/2013 11:04:08 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: SueRae

“I have to agree. If you hold a clearance, you are sworn to protect sources and methods.”

That is true enough. However, a case where U.S.A. law was broken by the people who the whistleblowers were trying to expose has never been tried successfully in a court-of-law.

It is still a grey area and in my opinion the government does not want to see a case settled in a court-of-law.

Reference: Daniel Ellsberg. His case was thrown out of court because of government misconduct.


155 posted on 06/23/2013 11:09:00 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: toldyou

OOPS...Ecuador


156 posted on 06/23/2013 11:09:29 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

That was then, this is now. Perhaps he knows who /what country will take the risks this time around.


157 posted on 06/23/2013 11:10:42 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: wideawake

I’m definitely a fan of the Constitution and ALL the Amendments...


158 posted on 06/23/2013 11:10:58 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” - Tacitus)
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To: Timber Rattler

No, was not OK with that at the time.


159 posted on 06/23/2013 11:11:37 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: shalom aleichem

Even though they were vicious Muslim terrorists who had just killed an American citizen and were on their way to freedom in Egypt?


160 posted on 06/23/2013 11:13:10 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: PLD
"Then put the moron Biden back in the asylum.."


161 posted on 06/23/2013 11:14:10 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: yadent

“but humiliating the US before the entire world with its insubordination.”

Insubordination? I do believe that HK is part of Communist China! ;-)


162 posted on 06/23/2013 11:24:20 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: CDB

“Nah. He’s on administrative leave”

You forgot the “with-full-pay” part! ROFL


163 posted on 06/23/2013 11:27:05 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
And frogmarch Snowden in front of the international media.

The usurper does NOT want this guy anywhere near a tv camera. Y'all have been bamboozled again. As if that's his real flight plan, ha. No way.

164 posted on 06/23/2013 11:37:07 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Timber Rattler

If USA does not have to respect the law, no one else will have to give us a break.

Similar argument on “torture”. We should not do it or they will do it to our troops. They probably will do it anyway, always have, always will.

It is best and moral to take the lawful, higher road, not get down in the gutter with the scum.

Vigilanteism is not a sound USA foreign policy.


165 posted on 06/23/2013 11:38:02 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: toldyou

He probably has half a dozen tickets from all over the world in his name but that doesn’t mean he is using any of them.


166 posted on 06/23/2013 11:40:07 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Windflier

You are not alone. I feel that way too. I believe in the true American dream, freedom. The freedoms enumerated in our treasured founding documents.

There should be none of this ubercontrol in our “government by the people. “ There should be no calls of traitor to anyone no matter how sleazy who tells the Owners of this Country — us, people, us! — that there is wrong doing in this government.

I don’t care what country the guy goes to.i don’t care much about him. But I appreciate knowing what our government has been doing TO US. We never voted for this. And the politicians in congress are mostly literally in there to get power and money for themselves; they are not representing us. That is partly just human nature. But the founders would have wanted us to keep working toward true representative government, and as much freedom as we can achieve without impinging on the freedoms of others.

Independence Day approaches, and I don’t know any more if the country I love exists, and if I even should be celebrating this country with such a totalitarian oligarchy as it now stands.


167 posted on 06/23/2013 11:42:23 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: no-to-illegals
Am doing my best to make sense of what appears to be senselessly pursuing someone that only told what was already known, and am having difficulty believing Snowden has committed a crime.

Exactly. Either he knows something big or this chase is nothing but a distraction of another big something. Hey, he's taken the focus off the other scandals so who knows.

168 posted on 06/23/2013 11:45:39 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill

So. If he stayed put...what would the outcome be?


169 posted on 06/23/2013 11:49:41 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Necrovore

Yes, I too have been giggling over the Snowden Global Tour or Around the World in 80 hours tour.

Here’s what we know so far:

1) We don’t have a clue where he is.
2) if he had dirt the Chinese wanted then a) we probably would have never learned his name and b) he would not have escaped China
3) He’s gotta have some serious dirt on something - and what ever that is, we’re not being told about it.
4) The moment he got to Russia, any thing else we’re hearing is mere rumor and conjecture.

For all we know, this dude could be in Detroit. All I know is whatever happens, I want the movie rights. Pass the popcorn.


170 posted on 06/23/2013 11:53:35 AM PDT by jimjohn
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To: wideawake

Yeah, that is why the Chinese let him leave.


171 posted on 06/23/2013 11:55:33 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HollyB

Snowdens plans never consisted of staying put..so it’s a non issue.


172 posted on 06/23/2013 11:59:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: OldNavyVet

Thank you! Amazed that so many here are blindly following the words of a government that only a few weeks ago proved untrustworthy. Snowden provided a public service. When will the politicians who approved this and the people who implemented this illegal spying on Americans see jail?


173 posted on 06/23/2013 12:02:00 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: caww

That hypothetical question was in response to to a hypothetical statement about his moving around


174 posted on 06/23/2013 12:02:18 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Re: money talks

that is why the 25 million bounty on OBL worked/s


175 posted on 06/23/2013 12:03:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: sand88

To determine who has Snowdens wheel...because he sure isn’t driving....look at who has front page and funding this...Assange and Wikileaks.

As for his girl-friend...He won’t be the first who hooks up with a pole dancer while he awaits his orders...then drops her in the gutter on the way out.


176 posted on 06/23/2013 12:03:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: Orange1998

No replies. Not surprised.


177 posted on 06/23/2013 12:05:34 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: plain talk

So you think govt should be able to break the laws and spy on Americans. Unbelievable.

is this DU or FR?


178 posted on 06/23/2013 12:07:55 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: tsowellfan

Decent tradecraft would have him asking for asylum from lots of red herring false destinations.


179 posted on 06/23/2013 12:08:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: little jeremiah

I too am rooting for Snowden. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.


180 posted on 06/23/2013 12:09:04 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: markomalley
Agreed....and he's got more coming , once he's connected in Equador...and interfaces with Assange via the Ambassador working for Assange in Londons Ecuador Embassy, where Assuage remains under guard. Assange currently only meets personally with people...no access to a computer...the Ecuador Ambassador and Assanges various personal "team" that visits..all relay what Assange wants done.
181 posted on 06/23/2013 12:10:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: Yaelle

Spot on post.


182 posted on 06/23/2013 12:14:36 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bgill

The “Big”..will be once Assange gets access to Snowdens documents and he plays the cards...not Snowden..if he doesn’t already have some already...You “pay to Play” in Assanges court.


183 posted on 06/23/2013 12:19:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: Red in Blue PA
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Yes, it is. On the Sundsay morning political round tables this am, a pundit said polls show a majority of people want him prosecuted.....that just doesn't ring true, to me. Anyone heard about this?
184 posted on 06/23/2013 12:26:31 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Girlene

Sure, which polls? And how often can they vote? Kinda like our elections, lol Cause they didnt include me in the poll!


185 posted on 06/23/2013 12:32:37 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Red in Blue PA

“is this DU or FR?”

I almost forgot about those creatures, but I just went there to see what their feelings were after you mentioned them. The discussion I read was very much the same as here...mixed feelings.


186 posted on 06/23/2013 12:40:39 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The Obama administration, the Obama State dept, the Obama Justice dept, the Obama DHL, the Obama NSA.....etc are the traitors. Wake up there has been a coup d’etat....there is a war being fought for our freedoms and we are losing. Of course they are going to discredit and demonize Snowden and some if you are lining up with the left who are busy at work demonizing him as they busily work at removing our efforts to expose their coup d’etat. Don’t give up the last of your freedoms to these bastards.


187 posted on 06/23/2013 12:42:17 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: markomalley
For a guys rumored to be so steeped intelligence, I think he just proved he doesn't have any.
188 posted on 06/23/2013 12:43:33 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Girlene
On the Sundsay morning political round tables this am, a pundit said polls show a majority of people want him prosecuted.....

That's how it's done in the USSA. Someone's unpopular, they find a crime to stick them with and bask in the glory of the mob.

That's how we got Reno, Giuliani, Spitzer ... well, they all do it now. Wouldn't be shocked if Paula Deen gets charged soon.

189 posted on 06/23/2013 12:44:43 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Yaelle

Dittos


190 posted on 06/23/2013 12:46:40 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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To: markomalley
Is this some kind of geography show?

Does he have Matt Lauer or Carmen Sandiego or Yoko Ono or Mike and Mel White with him?

191 posted on 06/23/2013 12:49:14 PM PDT by x
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To: Girlene; HollyB

They sure got to FNC: their implicit line is he’s a traitor.


192 posted on 06/23/2013 12:53:23 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: txhurl

Must be why only 23% of people trust the media. And its probably lower than that


193 posted on 06/23/2013 12:55:43 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

The latest Pew Foundation poll found that 54% of Americans want Snowden to be criminally prosecuted but the younger the person polled was the more likely they were to view him as a hero. 60% of 18-29 year olds see Snowden as having performed a positive public service. Both Tea Party members and folks identifying as liberals view Snowden positively.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2013/0618/Edward-Snowden-a-hero-to-many-young-Americans-poll-suggests


194 posted on 06/23/2013 12:58:33 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: markomalley
The Daily Mail reports that WikiLeaks legal adviser Sarah Harrison is traveling with Snowden.


195 posted on 06/23/2013 12:58:50 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

So am I correct in understanding he’s in the air right now, maybe 1/4 of the way to Havana?


196 posted on 06/23/2013 1:02:34 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: Travis McGee

He seems to have a thing for commie countries at this point...


197 posted on 06/23/2013 1:04:41 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Im not a crowd follower. My views are not swayed by polls which has been proven to be rogged Im a law abiding citizen. And a believer in freedom


198 posted on 06/23/2013 1:09:19 PM PDT by HollyB
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Rogged = rigged


199 posted on 06/23/2013 1:10:12 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Travis McGee

I think he is OUR spy..if so, a great storyline and very clever.


200 posted on 06/23/2013 1:11:52 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Will Freepr combat)
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