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Edward Snowden asks Ecuador for asylum
BBC ^ | 23 June 2013 | BBC

Posted on 06/23/2013 10:42:54 AM PDT by SgtBilko

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To: PlanToDisappear

Well I wouldn’t go that far...but I have to say I’m also enjoying the show...cat and mouse.... and their roles both change....you never know which is the cat or the mouse from one moment to the other. However Waldo is certainly the one on the run.

Slip and slid’en around!


151 posted on 06/24/2013 1:10:15 PM PDT by caww
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To: George Varnum

As another poster stated...’Putin adopted him’.


152 posted on 06/24/2013 1:12:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: cynwoody

Re your #120; Some of those old Soviet airliners don’t need any external encouragement to fall apart in mid air or inconveniently collide with the earth’s surface.

It might really be an “accident”... for a change.

If the Ruskies want him moved securely and discretely, I have a feeling that they are quite capable of arranging it - and King Obozo would be unable or would not dare to interfere.
If they want him to survive once he gets there, however, they will have to provide competent security 24/7.


153 posted on 06/24/2013 1:27:55 PM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: caww

RE your #150: “Gov. can and does abduct when and where they want to.”

I’m not in any position to really know, but have a strong sense that you are probably 100% correct about that.


154 posted on 06/24/2013 1:37:29 PM PDT by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Yep. The old good guys vs bad guys kind of thinking is outdated and probably never applied. Unfortunately we must navigate in a world of various degrees of wrong and evil. It is us against almost the entire world. Scary.


155 posted on 06/24/2013 1:52:03 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: eastforker
In socialist Ecaudor?
156 posted on 06/24/2013 2:06:51 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee

For one thing it is not a police state like what this country is turning into. Also no big brother watching over you shoulder and can actually live decent on a modest retorement.


157 posted on 06/24/2013 2:23:31 PM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker

The legislature just passed a censorship law to regulate the media in Ecuador.
http://lacpress.com/censorship-fears-ecuadors-new-law-regulate-media


158 posted on 06/24/2013 2:34:37 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: George Varnum

I do ‘alot’ of homework concerning that which interests me....

....but if we can swoop to grab, as our Military Teams have done and reported proven, they certainly can do so with Waldo. He was in the “mole” mode prior...now he’s held up underground somewhere...unless Putin took him home for awhile. (said the spider to the fly).


159 posted on 06/24/2013 2:36:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: Nero Germanicus

After reading that article, it also sounds like they want the media to be accountable for what they say. Interesting.


160 posted on 06/24/2013 2:39:05 PM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker

I don’t want American media to be required to be accountable to Barack Nobama.


161 posted on 06/24/2013 3:00:36 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

Well Nero, at my age I really don’t care anymore. With anywhere from 10 to 20 years left I just want to rest, fish and enjoy life without the politics.


162 posted on 06/24/2013 3:12:07 PM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: George Varnum; OldNavyVet; TArcher; RummyChick; John S Mosby; BarnacleCenturion; Timber Rattler; ...

Staying on this thread as this develops....as I have said..Assange is in this Snowden event Big time...and I believe we’ll find instrumental in getting Snowden to act for him.....

from the article....

....... ‘Julian Assange is again challenging the world order’........

Exactly a year after being forced to incarcerate himself in a small room in the Ecuadorean embassy in London, the Wikileaks founder who is helping NSA whistleblower Snowden has proven he can still enrage the U.S. and its allies.

....Assange has been trying for a while to upend the accepted structure. Two years ago he began presenting an interview show for the Kremlin-financed Russia Today network...... and after falling out with most of the major western news organizations, ........

.......then he began to collaborate with radical newspapers and websites such as the ‘Hezbollah-’supporting Al-Akhbar’.

. ....His cooperation with mainstream newsgroups such as the New York Times ended after major difference on the publication of Wikileaks materials such as the necessity to redact the names of sources who could be harmed........... Assange accused them of trying to harm him and his organization – he accused the editors of The Guardian of being part of a “Jewish” conspiracy to block fundraising for Wikileaks.

The fact that for the last two and a half years, since Wikileaks published the State Department cables, the organization has failed to recreate a similar coup with its subsequent publications............ (which included the emails of a minor private intelligence company, hundreds of thousands of random Syrian emails and archives of Henry Kissinger that had already been published) ...........contributed to the impression that Assange had become a marginal and laughable figure.

Now, a year after entering isolation, he is achieving sweet revenge by assuming patronage for Snowden whose revelations provided major headlines for The Guardian and the Washington Post in recent weeks.

Assange is trying to prove he doesn’t need the mainstream media and through the internet and with the help of social networks, radical bloggers and anarchist hackers such as members of the Anonymous collective....... who probably supplied the materials for Wikileaks recent publication,..... he can dictate the media’s agenda and continue provoke the Western powers.

This afternoon he was back in the limelight when hundreds of reporters from around the world listened in to his phone press conference; despite his saying nothing new about Snowden’s whereabouts, save for the revelation that he was “healthy and safe.”

(photo included of Assange in his balconey over the crowd)

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/from-a-small-room-in-london-julian-assange-is-challenging-the-world-order.premium-1.531777


163 posted on 06/24/2013 3:15:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: eastforker

I’m with ya buddy! But I don’t want to rest in socialist Ecuador. Good ol’ conservative, red state, free market Bitterroot Mountains in Idaho or Montana will work just fine for me.


164 posted on 06/24/2013 3:21:18 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus

I would love to except for the winters, can’t handle the cold.The countryside in Ecuador is much like the areas you mentioned, at 60-80 degrees, year round.


165 posted on 06/24/2013 3:25:08 PM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: SgtBilko

China, Russia, Ecuador, Venezuela....he seems to have a preference for authoritarian governments.


166 posted on 06/24/2013 3:47:01 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: dragnet2

He was manufactured by the very same corrupt government Termitocracy he’s exposing.

Government is corrupt because those who comprise it have failed to limit their scope to the defined purpose thereof: TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS.

They serve only themselves with their lies - “and because of this, God gave them over”.


167 posted on 06/24/2013 8:24:22 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
He wasn't manufactured by anyone...It's why he opened the lid on their illegal activities.

If ya want to see who is "manufactured" and or manipulate, by the wealthy insiders, look no further than your elected non-representative representatives in Congress, the Senate, D.C. etc...

168 posted on 06/24/2013 8:32:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>>He wasn’t manufactured by anyone..

Who vetted Comrade Snowden for TSSCI?


169 posted on 06/24/2013 8:37:55 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

I have no idea...


170 posted on 06/24/2013 8:44:15 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

It wasn’t the very same corruptocracy that Comrade Snowden is now exposing?


171 posted on 06/24/2013 8:47:41 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Who vetted Comrade Snowden

Ya call the guy who warned the American people they were literally being spied upon by their own government, a traitor?

I find that rather suspect.

172 posted on 06/24/2013 8:48:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

The McSheeple didn’t know that CIA-Seeded Google might be using their queries to profile them?

Duh.

I think it’s an opportunity for FReepers to educate the XBox Generation Termites regarding the specified scope of purpose that they’ve been demoralized into exceeding.

YMMV


173 posted on 06/24/2013 8:57:39 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

So corrupt gov just used a web browser as a way to illegally obtain information on and spy on the Goggling public?

That’s the extent of their illegal electronic monitoring/eavesdropping?

And you knew all about this CIA involvement prior to it being revealed by inside sources?


174 posted on 06/24/2013 9:07:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

[And you knew all about this CIA involvement prior to it being revealed by inside sources?]

It’s always been an open secret.

Here, Google it:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=Google+CIA+Seed+money&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1


175 posted on 06/24/2013 9:20:29 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: dragnet2

What’s DARPAnet?


176 posted on 06/24/2013 9:21:43 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
That’s the *extent* of their illegal electronic monitoring/eavesdropping? And you knew all about this CIA involvement prior to it being revealed by inside sources? Give me a specific link and named inside source...Not just a bunch of link to nothing. You can do that right?

BTW, if this is all been known by you and everyone else, why is he guilty of treason by corrupt governemnt?

177 posted on 06/24/2013 9:25:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Very good point!!


178 posted on 06/24/2013 9:26:09 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: TArcher

Ya know whats interesting about you, is you seem to talk or type in convoluted code or cypher. What’s up with that?


179 posted on 06/24/2013 9:27:31 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TArcher

The guy doesn’t get it...never will.


180 posted on 06/24/2013 9:33:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: dragnet2

>>why is he guilty of treason

Because he’s compromised American intelligence capabilities by revealing IP Addresses inside Communist China that were being watched?


181 posted on 06/24/2013 9:37:03 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: caww

Yeah, but the folks in the Peanut Gallery might.

Maybe even some of the folks over in unit 61398.

The Truth is a powerful thing.


182 posted on 06/24/2013 9:40:15 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Communist China??

Ya mean your governments good friend the Chinese, who the U.S. government borrowed from and is now in debt trillions of the American treasure?

Those Communist Mr. archer?

What's up with that Mr. archer?

183 posted on 06/24/2013 9:49:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TArcher

And now the Communist Chinese are suddenly your enemy and this governments enemy as you shop at Walmart?

Hows that work Mr. archer?


184 posted on 06/24/2013 9:51:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

UCExMCHVx7LHYGgEik0ttEcQf0v59Gu1iZv3qrCw3IhSgvU=

Cryptically yours,
TArcher


185 posted on 06/24/2013 9:51:39 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

LOL!


186 posted on 06/24/2013 9:52:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TArcher

You run for that tall grass real fast!

What a hoot!


187 posted on 06/24/2013 9:53:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Communist Chinese ideology has always been antithetical to American FReedom.

And I don’t shop at Walmart.


188 posted on 06/24/2013 9:53:33 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

And now the Communist Chinese are suddenly your enemy and this governments enemy


189 posted on 06/24/2013 9:54:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TArcher

Communist China??

Ya mean your governments good friend the Chinese, who the U.S. government borrowed from and is now in debt trillions of the American treasure?

Those Communist Mr. archer?


190 posted on 06/24/2013 9:54:51 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
It's Dick's Fault.


191 posted on 06/24/2013 9:55:46 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

Ya know what?

I don’t trust you.

You reek....


192 posted on 06/24/2013 9:56:29 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Your Engrish needs more work if you expect to cut the mustard in unit 61398.

https://www.mandiant.com/blog/mandiant-exposes-apt1-chinas-cyber-espionage-units-releases-3000-indicators/

Try Harder


193 posted on 06/24/2013 9:59:17 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

Ya, I was waiting for the grammar spelling comment..

See the tagline below, slick.


194 posted on 06/24/2013 10:00:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

What’s DARPanet?

Here, you can Google that too:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=DARPAnet


195 posted on 06/24/2013 10:03:01 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: dragnet2

No, Comrade Snowden reeked.


196 posted on 06/24/2013 10:10:35 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: dragnet2

>>I don’t trust you.

Uhuh. But you trust the punk who’s evidently got this...

” I had access to the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all over the world. The locations of every station, we have what their missions are, and so forth.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/06/officials-how-edward-snowden-could-hurt-the-u-s/

...up for sale.


197 posted on 06/24/2013 10:43:55 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher

You post links from prisonplanet and then ABC, on the same thread?

How desperate is that?

Next you’ll be posting .gov links..

I knew there was something about you I didn’t trust.


198 posted on 06/24/2013 11:06:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Buzz off Comrade, you’re pwned.


199 posted on 06/25/2013 4:22:01 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: dragnet2

See?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22I+had+access+to+the+full+rosters+of+everyone+working+at+the+NSA%22+snowden&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1


200 posted on 06/25/2013 5:16:42 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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