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Scarborough Says Lack Of African-American Jurors Makes Zimmerman Verdict Subject To Appeal
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/24/2013 5:04:48 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Do the words "double jeopardy" ring a bell, Joe? In 2012, shortly after Trayvon Martin was killed, and when few facts were available, Joe Scarborough didn't hesitate to brand George Zimmerman a "murderer."

Scarborough's pro-prosecution bias was on display again on Morning Joe today, when he declared that the absence of African-Americans on the George Zimmerman jury would "immediately" make a verdict subject to appeal. Really? So if this jury were to acquit Zimmerman, the prosecution would have a valid basis to overturn the verdict on appeal? Sure sounds like double jeopardy—but Scarborough never raised that concern.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: doublejeopardy; georgezimmerman; joescarborough; jurycomposition; zimmerman
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1 posted on 06/24/2013 5:04:48 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Has Florida lawyer Joe Scarborough ever heard of double jeopardy? Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 06/24/2013 5:05:26 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

People are still innocent until proven guilty in this country aren’t they?


3 posted on 06/24/2013 5:07:56 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Appeal by whom? It is my understanding a jury consists of persons approved by both the defense and prosecution attorneys.


4 posted on 06/24/2013 5:08:28 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Subject to appeal, eh?

So... the prosecution fails to get a conviction and appeals?

Is this how it works, dummass?


5 posted on 06/24/2013 5:08:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Weren’t the Rodney King cops sent to trial a second time after Clinton didnt like the outcome?


6 posted on 06/24/2013 5:10:16 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: MrB

“Is this how it works, dummass?”

It is if you are a liberal


7 posted on 06/24/2013 5:11:27 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What a moron.


8 posted on 06/24/2013 5:11:40 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Joe Scarborough is full of shite...


9 posted on 06/24/2013 5:13:45 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Scarborough needs to put a sock in it.


10 posted on 06/24/2013 5:13:48 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If we get an appeal due to the “race” of the jury, since only blacks can be jurors apparently, shouldn’t Zimmerman be acquitted based on the fact that the president (God I still hate referring to this ass-hat as president) , came out and basically prejudiced the whole country by saying Travon was his virtual son?


11 posted on 06/24/2013 5:14:48 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: freeangel

Yeah, they’re pretty much opposed to, ignorant of, or simply assume that the rules shouldn’t apply to them and their agenda.

Of course, “double jeopardy” applies when they are defending a true deviant and threat to society,

but not someone whose actions threatens their agenda.


12 posted on 06/24/2013 5:15:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Has Florida lawyer Joe Scarborough ever heard of double jeopardy?

Indeed, such appeals are usually brought by a convicted defendant, so the entire premise is based on the similarity in race (or rather, the lack thereof) between the jurors and the *defendant* The "victim" isn't part of the picture.

Joe has rocks in his head.

13 posted on 06/24/2013 5:15:59 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If the “correct” verdict is not returned, Orlando will burn. Probably Miami and Tampa, too.


14 posted on 06/24/2013 5:17:36 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If the innocent guy is found innocent, there will be appeals and the ‘justice’ dept will ‘find’ another charge to lay on him and prosecute him again.


15 posted on 06/24/2013 5:19:01 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

baloney....in fact illegal to seat one deliberately. and only 6 jurors.


16 posted on 06/24/2013 5:19:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: YankeeReb

“Obama - “came out and basically prejudiced the whole country by saying Travon was his virtual son?”

The media with their use of child photos of Martin, and Obama’s statements had Zimmerman convicted and guilty before the trial.


17 posted on 06/24/2013 5:21:36 AM PDT by apoliticalone (When banksters want what you own they'll use eminent domain. But first they want your firearms.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I don’t recall the right to a trial by your alleged victim’s peers.


18 posted on 06/24/2013 5:23:13 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (Envy is just passive, lazy greed.)
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To: PowderMonkey

This is a hoot. Joe is a fool.

There is authority for appeals when the accused is Black and the prosecution systematically excludes Blacks from serving on jury through peremptory challenges.

However, the right to a jury of peers is held by the accused, not the so-called victim, or his family, or his greedy lawyers.


19 posted on 06/24/2013 5:23:22 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Man.

He be GUILTY.

As in : guiltyguiltyguiltyguiltygilteeeeeee!

Keep tryin’ him over and over again—untill ya get the right verdict!!

Thasss how it’s done!


20 posted on 06/24/2013 5:24:13 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

He means appeal a conviction, there is no appealing a not guilty verdict


21 posted on 06/24/2013 5:25:21 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MNDude
Weren’t the Rodney King cops sent to trial a second time after Clinton didnt like the outcome?

You are on to something here. I'm guessing that if Zimmerman is acquitted of murder charges, the fed's will fill a civil rights violation against him.

And then Zimmerman will be convicted in a federal court. The Attorney General will see to that.

22 posted on 06/24/2013 5:27:34 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: yldstrk

Sorry, but can’t agree. Surely Scarborough isn’t saying that if Zimmerman is convicted, he would appeal on the basis there were no African-Americans on the jury.


23 posted on 06/24/2013 5:29:15 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Has Florida lawyer Joe Scarborough ever heard of double jeopardy?

The Written Constitution is so 18th century that it's not worth reading, and it was obsolete even then. In the Living Constitution, double jeopardy is less important than diversity, since diversity is the centerpiece of the penumbra.

24 posted on 06/24/2013 5:30:39 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: MrB

“So... the prosecution fails to get a conviction and appeals?”

Sounds like he’s trying to put thoughts into the minds of the potential rioters - “informing” them on what their next protest should be about - which is to demand appeal after appeal on whatever grounds until Zimmerman fries.


25 posted on 06/24/2013 5:31:21 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They really scrape the bottom of the barrel to come up with these folks. For him to say something so ludicrous he would have to be woefully ignorant of the most basic tenets of US law, or assume his audience is a cackle of complete morons.

I suspect it is that latter. After discussing politics with a few of them, I also suspect he is correct.


26 posted on 06/24/2013 5:31:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: beef
Yeah I keep hearing the family saying they just want justice.........The translation of that is “we just want him convicted and the trial is getting in the way”. Justice is letting the court and trial process play out regardless of the outcome. But your probably correct, if GZ isn't found guilty there will be violence, that's all these people know.
27 posted on 06/24/2013 5:31:59 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Make up your hyphenated minds!

African-American.

Are you Africans or are you Americans?

There will always be a divide between Americans and those who hyphenate their ancestors’ origins as though it was a flag to be flown proudly. This is AMERICA.

We don’t have any Jewish-Americans, Polish-Americans, German-Americans and by God we shouldn’t have any Latino-Americans or Hispanic-Americans. You are either an American or if you’re so proud of your sketchy ancestry get out and go back to where your ancestors came from.


28 posted on 06/24/2013 5:32:17 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: beef
If the “correct” verdict is not returned, Orlando will burn. Probably Miami and Tampa, too.

And the problem is????

29 posted on 06/24/2013 5:32:43 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Heart of Georgia

Yeah, and that might work for the leftist’s street army who have no idea about due process,

and, for that matter, wouldn’t care if they did.

Leftists have an inherent disregard for any set of fixed rules being used against their agenda.


30 posted on 06/24/2013 5:33:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Leaning Right
I'm guessing that if Zimmerman is acquitted of murder charges, the fed's will fill a civil rights violation against him.

I suppose that's somehow still possible, but the DOJ already sent FBI agents down to investigate a possible Civil Rights charge, and concluded there was no basis for that. Overcoming their own investigation would be a pretty big hurdle.

31 posted on 06/24/2013 5:33:37 AM PDT by PhatHead
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Yep, that is what the doofus seems to be saying.


32 posted on 06/24/2013 5:34:48 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Sooooo... NOT having someone on the jury who will ignore the evidence and convict solely on RACE is a problem?????

Welcome to Barackistan!

33 posted on 06/24/2013 5:35:16 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

There was a national news report that just called George Zimmerman a Caucasian instead of Hispanic. Low information voters will believe that crap in a heartbeat.


34 posted on 06/24/2013 5:37:04 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The Constitution isn’t something he is familiar with.


35 posted on 06/24/2013 5:37:12 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

He’s a simpleton. The state can’t appeal an acquittal. Anyway juror B29 is a Black Hispanic. Is he saying that she doesn’t count???


36 posted on 06/24/2013 5:38:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Arrowhead1952

The problem is I live in Tampa. Some areas downtown might get sporting but there are way too many good people who will object out in the burbs.


37 posted on 06/24/2013 5:41:27 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Scarborough has already found Zimmerman guilty I see.


38 posted on 06/24/2013 5:43:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Flintlock

Stacking the ballots in Florida led to hanging chads. Leftists demanded to keep trying until they could get the results they wanted.

Now the same leftists demand the jury be stacked and have trials until they get the result they want, which is “hanging” Zimmerman. Or else.


39 posted on 06/24/2013 5:45:10 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Joe “Dead Intern” Scarborough?


40 posted on 06/24/2013 5:46:03 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: MNDude
IIRC,not Clinton, it was Bush 1.

First they were tried under state law, then due to the uproar, they were tried under federal law.

41 posted on 06/24/2013 5:46:34 AM PDT by duckln
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Joe is another one who slept through High School Civics apparently


42 posted on 06/24/2013 5:50:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sanford, Florida is 80% white.


43 posted on 06/24/2013 5:53:04 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“So if this jury were to acquit Zimmerman, the prosecution would have a valid basis to overturn the verdict on appeal?”

In New America you are entitled to a jury of your assailant’s peers.


44 posted on 06/24/2013 5:56:04 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: I want the USA back
If the innocent guy is found innocent, there will be appeals and the ‘justice’ dept will ‘find’ another charge to lay on him and prosecute him again.

It is guaranteed that Zimmerman will be charged with violations of Martin's Civil Rights by Holder's inJustice Dept and if that doesn't work Zimmerman will face civil charges from the Martin family. There is a long way to go in this case.

45 posted on 06/24/2013 6:04:17 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: MNDude
Weren’t the Rodney King cops sent to trial a second time after Clinton didnt like the outcome?

Yep, They were acquitted in state Court but retried in Federal Court for "civil rights violations". If the Feds want you, give your heart and soul to Jesus, because they will have your ass.

46 posted on 06/24/2013 6:06:28 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: MNDude
Weren’t the Rodney King cops sent to trial a second time after Clinton didnt like the outcome?

It's called hitting them with federal law charges after they've been acquitted of state law charges.

Fully expect racist POS Eric Holder and Obamessiah to do the same if Zimmerman is found not guilty in state court.




47 posted on 06/24/2013 6:06:39 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Tagline copyright in violation of Directive 10-289)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The percentage of blacks in Florida is 16% +/-.
The percentage of Hispanics is 22.9% +/-.

Since Zimmerman is Hispanic would it be ‘fair’ if his lawyer tried to ‘stack’ the jury with a Hispanic?

The answer should be no and it also should be no to attempt the same thing because the ‘victim’ was black.


48 posted on 06/24/2013 6:08:48 AM PDT by RetSignman
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Racists gotta do what racists gotta do, right Joe?


49 posted on 06/24/2013 6:10:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“on the basis there were no African-Americans on the jury.”

As ludicrous as it sounds, the point was made that municipalities cannot find enough Blacks to serve on juries because so many Blacks are in jail. I kid you not.

Joe shot himself in his other foot by insulting the fairer sex by stating in effect that no one knows how women come to a decision on anything.


50 posted on 06/24/2013 6:14:29 AM PDT by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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