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Vanity: Gun safety question
Vanity | 06.24.13 | South Hawthorne

Posted on 06/24/2013 9:18:46 AM PDT by South Hawthorne

Folks, I need some advice here.

I own two weapons, a Ruger 9, and a Mossberg 500. Both are primarily for home defense, although I have a CC and take the 9 with me occasionally.

I live in the city, South Philadelphia, in a three story row home, and there are very few break-ins, not a great deal of crime in my neighborhood. I also have a wife, who has no interest in fire arms, and two children, a daughter 13 and son 11, who also have no interest in firearms.

Now I keep the Mossberg in the bedroom (3rd floor), where it can’t be reached by anyone but me. The question is: Where should I keep the Ruger? Currently, it’s in the bedroom with a gun lock on it, but it occurred to me, if I was downstairs and needed it suddenly, it would be useless.

I have a table with drawers near the front door, maybe that would be a good place? But should I lock it? The one factor is this Ruger needs to be racked to get the first round in the chamber and I’m really confident that I’m the only one strong enough to do it, and I doubt anyone else knows this needs to be done.

Yes, I know ideally it would be safest to keep the guns in a safe with locks on them and the ammo somewhere else all together, but if there was a break-in, they’d be useless.

Essentially, I’m looking for a balance between ease of access and safety. Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.


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1 posted on 06/24/2013 9:18:46 AM PDT by South Hawthorne
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To: South Hawthorne

Carry it. If I’m in a house with kids, I carry on my person indoors or out. Period.


2 posted on 06/24/2013 9:21:04 AM PDT by apoxonu
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To: South Hawthorne

I keep my glock with me on my nightstand as I sleep and downstairs with me when I am down there. No kids around with me.


3 posted on 06/24/2013 9:21:27 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: South Hawthorne

Train your kids and wife and leave it in the drawer.


4 posted on 06/24/2013 9:22:00 AM PDT by xone
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To: South Hawthorne

Put it in a drawer with a biometric lock. This would be for daytime use only and only if you were in the house.

I would leave it in the drawer ready for defending your life and that of your family.

If you leave the house take the gun with you or put it back in the safe.


5 posted on 06/24/2013 9:22:48 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: South Hawthorne

I don’t like having my gun unsecured (especially with kids) I keep mine in my pocket.


6 posted on 06/24/2013 9:23:02 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: South Hawthorne

One of those handgun safes might work. A good one which opens with a fingertip combo costs about $140 but you aren’t fumbling with a padlock trying to get your gun.

Also depends on your kids and how many visitors you have. I trust my kids more than my neighbors. So I taught them how to use the gun.

IMO everyone needs to know the basics of gun safety.


7 posted on 06/24/2013 9:24:11 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: South Hawthorne
Holster or quick access pistol safe.
As for your wife and kids, TRAIN THEM.
Your wife should know what to do and your kids should know what not to do.

8 posted on 06/24/2013 9:25:15 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: South Hawthorne
You live in Philly and have a handgun and a shotgun. Mayor Nutter does not approve. You must be up to no good.

I agree with the other poster, carry at all times. Or, you could get one of those bio-metric safes and bolt it into the drawer by the door.

9 posted on 06/24/2013 9:25:39 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: South Hawthorne

You can get a small gun safe big enough for the pistol with a combination lock and a code known only by you and keep it where you like. That adds time to the process of retrieving it but given the circumstances of a house full of people who don’t know how to operate the pistol that’s not only best for their safety but best from a legal perspective as well.


10 posted on 06/24/2013 9:26:43 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: South Hawthorne

lock up the unloaded guns in a safe, and get a big family dog!

this is a conundrum I have considered myself, and I’m not sure there’s a good answer, except to say as a mom of a 10 yo boy, I would be careful in assuming that your children have no interest in firearms.


11 posted on 06/24/2013 9:27:08 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: South Hawthorne

I carry mine while home, and have several small pistol safes around my house.
If I’m wearing my jammies and no belt for a holster, I use a shoulder holster.
If you’re planning to have a pistol in your bathroom, use a lot of desiccant to keep things dry in it.


12 posted on 06/24/2013 9:29:13 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: South Hawthorne
I also have a wife, who has no interest in fire arms, and two children, a daughter 13 and son 11, who also have no interest in firearms.

Maybe they don't have any interest in firearms. But the friends that they have over might have a great interest. The friends could be carelessly curious. Or they could have a bit of larceny in them. Please keep that in mind.

13 posted on 06/24/2013 9:29:19 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: South Hawthorne
I keep the Mossberg in the bedroom (3rd floor), where it can’t be reached by anyone but me. The question is: Where should I keep the Ruger?
You already have means to defend yourself w/ the Mossberg. Keep the pistol in a gun safe.
14 posted on 06/24/2013 9:30:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: South Hawthorne
"Yes, I know ideally it would be safest to keep the guns in a safe with locks on them and the ammo somewhere else all together, but if there was a break-in, they’d be useless."

Safest? Not if your safety is threatened and you need a gun Right Now. As you wrote, stored that way they'd be useless if there was a break-in.

15 posted on 06/24/2013 9:31:01 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: South Hawthorne

It absolutely vital that your kids are trained properly. They need to know how to handle all of your weapons in a safe manner. Regardless if they are interested, they must be trained and have some range time.


16 posted on 06/24/2013 9:32:35 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: South Hawthorne

The safest place for a pistol is a holster.


17 posted on 06/24/2013 9:32:52 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: South Hawthorne

there are a number of hiding places out now-a-days. Some use a mantle clock, others “books” that would permit concealment in other parts of the house. Most important is proper training of wife and children. Get them to take a NRA entry level class on gun safety.


18 posted on 06/24/2013 9:32:53 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: South Hawthorne
I usually carry at all times, even in the house. You can buy one of these hand-combo gun vaults and only give the combo to those who care. That way, you can leave it locked and loaded, ready to go.

I have the same strength and complexity issue with my women, and have made sure they are equipped with revolvers. The new composite 5-shots are sweet.

19 posted on 06/24/2013 9:33:52 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: South Hawthorne
The one factor is this Ruger needs to be racked to get the first round in the chamber and I’m really confident that I’m the only one strong enough to do it, and I doubt anyone else knows this needs to be done.

Never under estimate kids.

There are small gun safes on the market that will hold one or two handguns. There are models that require a fingerprint or a combination that can make hand gun available to you in a hurry if the need arises.

Check the web sites of Cabela's and others for the hand gun safes.

If your city/state requires gun locks even while the firearm is in storage, good luck on protecting yourself and your family.

20 posted on 06/24/2013 9:34:16 AM PDT by TYVets
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