Skip to comments.AT LEAST 1 DEAD IN INDIANA FERTILIZER PLANT EXPLOSION
Posted on 06/24/2013 1:11:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
UNION MILLS, Ind. (AP) An explosion at a fertilizer plant in northwest Indiana has killed one person.
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Ok.. what in the world is going on here?????
Somebody needs to tally how many of these we’ve had.
There was one in Texas.. and I believe one in Louisiana.. maybe another.. and now this one.
Prayers for all who will be affected by this tragedy.
This sounds like the work on Al-Queda.
Three ... “central fuel tank explosions”?
Or Monsanto, maybe they were peddling uncontrolled seeds. /sarc
I didn’t see that.
Shockingly, it seems flammable or explosive substances sometimes burn or blow up.
Not at this pace.
Nothing to see here.
Please move along.
You don’t say—hazardous material is hazardous?
Statistically, what is the acceptable rate?
Just shocking isn’t it.
Turns out the extra pay for working in a hazardous environment is actually done for a reason.
Yes they happen at this pace. You just weren’t paying attention until recently.
And the question is what “pace” you are talking about; just ammonium nitrate explosions? There’s been two this year in the US. Or are you mentally adding in the Canadian fireworks explosion, etc.?
If you’re talking about all industrial explosions, then there are of course far more of those.
There were 3 separate incidents in Spain, Romania, and North Korea just in just three months in 2004.
A random distribution of rare events will be naturally “clumpy” on its own, far more than the average person understands. If there are on average 1 ammonium nitrate explosion every year over a 50 year period, there’s not ACTUALLY going to be one a year. you’ll go three years without one, and other times you’ll have two explosions within three months, etc.
Two in Louisiana in two days, different plants. One was nitrogen and one was fertilizer.
OK, so I presume you’re adding in the Canadian fireworks explosion.
If you are looking at ALL types of industrial explosions WORLDWIDE, then yes, three “large” ones (depending on your definition) in a few months is certainly normal.
May 4, 1988: PEPCON disaster in Henderson, Nevada. Massive explosion at a chemical plant killed 2 people.
May 5, 1988: Norco, Louisiana, Shell Oil refinery explosion after hydrocarbon gas escaped from a corroded pipe in a catalytic cracker and was ignited. Louisiana state police evacuated 2,800 residents from nearby neighborhoods. Seven workers were killed and 42 injured. The total cost arising from the Norco blast is estimated at US$ 706 million.
July 6, 1988: Piper Alpha disaster. An explosion and resulting fire on a North Sea oil production platform kills 167 men. Total insured loss is about US$ 3.4 billion. To date it is rated as the world’s worst offshore oil disaster in terms both of lives lost and impact to industry
I’m aware of those incidents. So exactly when will you be rubbing your chin saying “hmmm” instead of proclaiming nothing to see here folks? And exactly when will you be satisfied that they have exceeded the statistical noise?
This makes the Fourth one after west, TX. If I’m wrong someone please correct me.
When they become more frequent than normal. I work near the Houston ship channel. I work in the oil/gas/petrochem industry.
This may seem an unusual rate to you. May I politely suggest that is due more to the your past awareness, than any change in rate of explosions.
"one" what? Ammonium Nitrate explosion? Industrial explosion? In the US? In North America? In the world?
The key thing I'm arguing is to bound the statistical data set you are looking at and to at least have a sense of the historical norm before people start wondering about terrrorism.
How’s those taliban talks going?
For second time in 12 hours, suspicious object detonated at Indianapolis federal facility
The only part that’s changed is the press covering it. Most of the time these things happen and nobody outside the local community finds out because it’s not news. But then slow news months happen and the press starts reporting these small events with bloodshed (if it bleeds it leads) to fill their time. We see it all the time. Remember all those shark attacks summer of 01? Seemed like the sharks had gone crazy, except that actually shark attack numbers were down dramatically from average, they were just getting covered on CNN which they usually don’t. Same thing with train derailments winter of 02. And train derailments again a couple months ago. The press has 24/7 to fill on three different networks, whether there’s something interesting happening or not, that’s what slush piles are for.
Someone within our gov't is probably doing this.. DHS perhaps, or an agency linked to agriculture permits. Trying to slow or shut down agriculture, possibly 'Agenda 21' related.
one is an event. two may be a coincidence. three or more are too suspicious to be dismissed
Someone’s 4th of July weekend just got like totally ruined, man.
I was in Sam’s Club last week, they sell fireworks here in Indiana.
There is a “weekend fun pack” which is $499 bucks, is about 5 feet high and shrink wrapped on a pallet.
Takes a forklift to load it in your vehicle.
three or more are too suspicious to be dismissed
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We average a couple dozen fires every day in US industrial and manufacturing facilities.
Is it really surprising that some small fraction of one percent of these result in some type of explosion, given that they handle explosive material?
Not that any of the conspiracy freaks on this thread will care, but the explosion locally was said to have been in a grain bin. Grain dust (corn dust especially) is highly explosive, but the MSM could hardly pass up the opportunity to blame this accident on something that apparently wasn’t involved.
I grew up in downstate Illinois. My uncles would always drive to Indiana or Missouri and bring back fireworks.
Sounds like the BATF or FBI, sorry.
This is their M.O.
Ah, A Class II, Division 1, Group G Hazardous Area (inside the grain bin).
Harder to ignite than the Class I environments, but has killed many people and destroyed many structures over the decades.
Yup, a bit of investigation finds that this has NOTHING TO DO WITH FERTILIZER, but all of the media (with the sole exception of USA today) wen't with fertilizer in the headline.
Grain elevator explosions are extremely common; there was more than one a month during the 1990s.
The M.O. of the BATF and FBI is to cause grain dust explosions in grain elevators? To what end?
Grain dust is explosive with a spark. You’d get the same effect if you were in a closed room, threw a handful of flour and lit a lighter. Boom...no more you and no more house.
The chit hit the fan?
Almost every small farming community in northern indiana (in fact, anywhere in the midwest) has a local grain elevator. And yes, grain dust is very explosive. Working at a grain elevator is a fairly dangerous job, because the dust is also very hazardous to breathe, and shifting piles of grain can bury an uncautious worker. This is a tragedy, but a local one. Say a prayer for the good people who make sure we have food in our supermarkets.
Uh, no... the first was an Ethylene plant, the second was an Ammonia plant... (Which gets used for fertilizer)
I've been in both facilities...
Still haven't heard any details about what cause the first one.... but, there was a LOT of work going on at that location as part of an expansion project.