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Russia Rejects US Demand for Snowden's Extradition
hnewsobserver.com ^ | June 24, 2013

Posted on 06/25/2013 2:48:26 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

MOSCOW — Russia's foreign minister has rejected U.S. demands to extradite National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden, who has apparently stopped in Moscow while trying to evade U.S. justice.

Sergey Lavrov said that Snowden hasn't crossed the Russian border and insisted that Russia has nothing to do with him, his relations with U.S. justice or his travel plans.

Speaking at a news conference Tuesday, he angrily lashed out at the U.S. demands for the extradition and warnings of negative consequences if Moscow fails to comply.

Lavrov said that accusing Russia of "violation of U.S. laws and even some sort of conspiracy" with regard to Snowden is "absolutely ungrounded and unacceptable."

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Edward Snowden's stop-and-start flight across the globe appeared to stall in Moscow as the United States ratcheted up pressure to hand over the National Security Agency leaker who had seemed on his way to Ecuador to seek asylum.

In Ecuador's most extensive statement about the case, the foreign minister hailed Snowden on Monday as "a man attempting to bring light and transparency to facts that affect everyone's fundamental liberties."

The decision whether to grant Snowden the asylum he has requested is a choice between "betraying the citizens of the world or betraying certain powerful elites in a specific country," Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino told reporters while visiting Vietnam.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
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1 posted on 06/25/2013 2:48:26 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The Russians are making mincemeat out of Obama and his team...


2 posted on 06/25/2013 2:51:14 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: Netz

That is what happens when you have a lack of leadership.


3 posted on 06/25/2013 2:52:48 AM PDT by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"a choice between betraying the citizens of the world or betraying the powerful elites of a certain country"

Ouch.

Snowden should write a well-researched novel..."fiction" isn't an act of treason yet, is it?

4 posted on 06/25/2013 2:56:59 AM PDT by grania
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To: ruesrose

I think the Russians never believed in the use of “soft-power” or leading from behind...


5 posted on 06/25/2013 2:57:52 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Uhhh, Comrade Hussein.....Mr. Snowden is not in our country; just like your IRS doesn't target Conservatives or your NSA, CIA, FBI, et al do not completely surveil your citizens without cause.
6 posted on 06/25/2013 2:58:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BarnacleCenturion

LOL
Patino sure has the Washingtonians number
Sounds like a polite way to tell the lawless police state in DC to go scratch themselves


7 posted on 06/25/2013 3:10:31 AM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The only leadership tool Obomba has at his disposal is the race card. Putin, however, doesn’t accept that card.


8 posted on 06/25/2013 3:13:30 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Who is paying for his hotel and meals? I mean, when he flies into Cuba before Ecuador, is he a guest of the Cuban government and they pay for everything?


9 posted on 06/25/2013 3:18:28 AM PDT by frickin_frackin
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To: frickin_frackin

Snowden is not a guest of any government. He likely won’t even leave the airport.


10 posted on 06/25/2013 3:24:02 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Well this is certainly Change.

I can’t even get angry. Obama bought this on himself. Show weakness to ruthless countries and they won’t respect you.

Cowboys were feared. Leftwing “Intellectuals” not so much!


11 posted on 06/25/2013 3:24:51 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: BarnacleCenturion

BUT, BUT...WE "RESET"!!!!

Oh, wait...

12 posted on 06/25/2013 3:31:00 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Heh. What goes around comes around.

The U.S. refused Russia’s request to extradite George Soros for criminal currency manipulation. In 2000, Soros nearly destroyed the Russian economy by selling the Rouble short and deflating its value from $0.166 to $0.033, almost overnight.

An investigation led to to the 2005 raid by Russian police on Soros offices in Moscow. Unfortunately, the pig Soros wasn’t there. They asked the U.S. to extradite Soros. The U.S. told them to pound sand, since we don’t have an extradition treaty with Russia.


13 posted on 06/25/2013 4:06:14 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Gaffer

LOL


14 posted on 06/25/2013 4:24:07 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: frickin_frackin

The question to pose to the White House press spokesman is if they cut off his Visa and Master Card access. The answer is likey to be....we will get back to you on that. He’s probably running up a $40,000 tab and doesn’t intend to pay.

The WikiLeaks folks are likely covering some of his bills now. Course, eventually....you’d get around to asking how they make any money. The CIA might want to take some time and analyze the money-laundering ability of WikiLeaks.


15 posted on 06/25/2013 4:25:49 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The Chicago mob is no match for the Russian bear. Maybe Rahm Emmanuel can head over to Moscow and dance the Nutcracker Suite in his tutu.


16 posted on 06/25/2013 4:40:13 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Why am I rooting for a traitor?


17 posted on 06/25/2013 4:49:04 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Why are you rooting for Obummer? Just kidding.


18 posted on 06/25/2013 4:54:52 AM PDT by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Haha...


19 posted on 06/25/2013 4:56:14 AM PDT by Red Steel
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20 posted on 06/25/2013 4:58:11 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

"Stop crying, you big baby!"


21 posted on 06/25/2013 5:00:28 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Westbrook

“In 2000, Soros nearly destroyed the Russian economy by selling the Rouble short and deflating its value from $0.166 to $0.033, almost overnight.”

About 99% of the Russia bashers are completely ignorant about that. Soros has hired a half-dozen PR firms to spit out lies and propaganda about Russia that are picked by Soros organizations and distributed to the leftist media. Then the people who read this crap become useful idiots for Soros and Hillary.

It should also be noted that Putin signed a warrant for the arrest of Soros. A number of Soros henchmen have been indicted, and some of the useful idiots are lauding them as heroes.


22 posted on 06/25/2013 5:08:11 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
The decision whether to grant Snowden the asylum he has requested is a choice between "betraying the citizens of the world or betraying certain powerful elites in a specific country," Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino told reporters while visiting Vietnam.

While George Bush was President, much of the world may not have liked the United States, but at least they respected the United States. Now they do neither.

US voters wanted change. They got change. Putin will be playing with the big-eared doofus like a kitten with a ball of string for the next 3 1/2 years.

23 posted on 06/25/2013 5:09:33 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Raycpa
Why am I rooting for a traitor?

HeHe! I know what you mean. Me, I've been on the fence as to whether this man is a traitor or "hero" since day one. I'm not exactly rooting for him but I'm not rooting for the other side either.

Maybe he is a traitor who just happened to leak information that made him look like he was on the side of the American people since the information was exposing Obama to be the tyrant that he is against "his" own people.

Maybe this man's actions were not to help the American people but to hurt the US Government, it just so happens that the first info he leaked exposed Obama as a tyrant and the American people as the victim.

Either way, no matter how innocent he may be it does make me nervous that he's flying around the world with laptops of data of US secrets that either could given out for the right price or secrets worth killing for.

This circus is not just exposing Obama as a tyrant but a weak "leader" on the international stage.

24 posted on 06/25/2013 5:11:30 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Fresh Wind

The only leadership tool Obomba has at his disposal is the race card. Putin, however, doesn’t accept that card.


That would make the ultimate SNL skit. Putin rejecting Obama’s requests (Snowden, arms, trade, etc...) and Obama saying “it’s because I’m black, isn’t it.”

SNL would have done something like this back in the 70s when they were still funny.


25 posted on 06/25/2013 5:16:45 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Raycpa

I think it’s “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” kind of thing.


26 posted on 06/25/2013 5:16:55 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Fresh Wind

Really good one .... sums the situation right up perfectly.


27 posted on 06/25/2013 5:24:11 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: BarnacleCenturion
what surprises me is that Hong Kong would let him go.
28 posted on 06/25/2013 5:25:07 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: BarnacleCenturion

There is no honor among thieves.


29 posted on 06/25/2013 5:36:57 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Drawn7979

Hong Kong let him go?

China is enjoying this show.


30 posted on 06/25/2013 5:49:21 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Please .. Let me leave airport. I give you swordfish. You like? Also have medicine for goat.


31 posted on 06/25/2013 6:16:11 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: BarnacleCenturion
"In Ecuador's most extensive statement about the case, the foreign minister hailed Snowden on Monday as "a man attempting to bring light and transparency to facts that affect everyone's fundamental liberties."

Not surprising that a place like Ecuador has to school the likes of the Obama administration. But it's the world we live in.

SNOWDEN, PRISM, AND THE NSA

32 posted on 06/25/2013 6:20:12 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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33 posted on 06/25/2013 6:22:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Raycpa

“Why am I rooting for a traitor?”

Exactly what did he say or do that makes him a “traitor”?

Last I heard, all he had done was tell everyone that Hussein’s administration was illegally collecting data on Americans.

No?

Does the term “whistleblower” now unequivocally mean “traitor”?


34 posted on 06/25/2013 6:30:54 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Westbrook
I think Soros is also wanted in France.
35 posted on 06/25/2013 6:31:23 AM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: MRadtke

The Israelis should have given him the Eichmann treatment.


36 posted on 06/25/2013 6:33:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: treetopsandroofs
Does the term “whistleblower” now unequivocally mean “traitor”?

When a Democrat is in the White House ... yes.

37 posted on 06/25/2013 6:33:30 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Fresh Wind
The only leadership tool Obomba has at his disposal is the race card. Putin, however, doesn’t accept that card.

And Poot also doesn't care whether Chrissy Matthews blathers on about "racist dog whistles," either.

I am having a great case of schadenfreude over this. Obama SO deserves this international humiliation. It's beautiful.

38 posted on 06/25/2013 6:37:30 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I understand that, from Hussein’s playpals, but there seems to be a large group of people here who unquestionably use that term to describe Snowden, and I’m trying to understand why.


39 posted on 06/25/2013 6:38:33 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: MRadtke

Obama has made the USA into the monty python prancing soldiers.

The rest of the world sees the us military as feminized men and homosexuals. Obama as a impotent buffoon. The state department has homosexual party animals easily compromized.

There is nothing to respect or fear.


40 posted on 06/25/2013 6:39:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: treetopsandroofs

A partial answer is that a lot of people here are not at all Conservative and they like big government just fine. A little intrusion from the NSA is OK with such folks.


41 posted on 06/25/2013 6:41:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: BarnacleCenturion
I posted the comment below on a thread last night. It's pure speculation:

Snowden was posted to Switzerland by the CIA as a technical specialist six years ago. He said he became disillusioned by some of the tactics the CIA used to acquire agents. Snowden: “Much of what I saw in Geneva really disillusioned me about how my government functions and what its impact is in the world. I realized that I was part of something that was doing far more harm than good.” I think it's possible Snowden was recruited by the Russians while in Geneva and has worked for them ever since. Putin may have orchestrated Snowden’s public disclosures to embarrass Obama a few days before Obama met with the Chinese to complain about cyber attacks.

42 posted on 06/25/2013 6:41:26 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I don’t know if Putin celebrates Christmas but what a gift he got when Mr. Snowden came to town.


43 posted on 06/25/2013 6:45:36 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: COBOL2Java

44 posted on 06/25/2013 6:49:05 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Westbrook
“In 2000, Soros nearly destroyed the Russian economy by selling the Rouble short and deflating its value from $0.166 to $0.033, almost overnight.”

I'm no fan of George Soros, but short-sellers are the messengers; they don't write the message. The Russian financial system (exemplified by the market for its government bonds) was in free-fall, with or without Soros.

45 posted on 06/25/2013 6:52:40 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ve been complaining for a couple of years here how thoroughly FR has been infiltrated.

I sneered at AC a couple of weeks ago for no longer being Conservative and got yelled down to by a leftist freak and told I was in the basement of mom’s house (like many of us referred to OWS vermin).

The left wing freaks embedded here try extra hard to APPEAR conservative....

Calling Snowden a traitor seems to out themselves pretty well, like the persistent ZIMMERMAN IS GUILTY freaks did last year.

I know there were a few who recanted, but many just got quiet until the next issue about which they just couldn’t contain themselves any longer.


46 posted on 06/25/2013 6:53:07 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I think we’re jumping to the conclusion that Russia is treating this kid to a spa package and five star dining.

Seriously, if this kid knows as much as he claims to, why would Russia let him just waltz off to Ecuador without first... um... debriefing him for as long as they want?


47 posted on 06/25/2013 7:05:20 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: sergeantdave
"About 99% of the Russia bashers are completely ignorant about that. Soros has hired a half-dozen PR firms to spit out lies and propaganda about Russia."

Exactly. I know Christian missionaries who travel to Russia frequently and they are puzzled at how much different it is there now than what is portrayed in our filtered media.

Most of the countries that we used to call commie and socialist think our country is full of idiots for letting their old history repeat itself in our country.

Flippin' socialized medicine..the takeover of our major corporations by the government. Come on people!

48 posted on 06/25/2013 7:05:48 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Netz

like we would hand over if it were one of their guys and why should they when Snowden will be locked away for ever because he ratted out how Obama and the thugs are spying on us all


49 posted on 06/25/2013 7:25:22 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Westbrook

exactly, Russian wanted Soros but he;s the left sugar daddy and so we are stuck with him but then the Chicago thugs get their panties in a twist when Russia does it back .

Snowden is being used as an example of never ratting out this Govt and their illegal spying and no one can say secret courts, with secret judges who only hear the govt side is surely legal


50 posted on 06/25/2013 7:27:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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