Skip to comments.Rebellious Colorado counties move forward with plans to secede
Posted on 06/25/2013 12:53:14 PM PDT by servo1969
Representatives of 10 rural Colorado counties met Monday in the sleepy plains town of Akron, about a half an hour from the Kansas border, to advance a plan that has been both hailed and ridiculed in recent weeks: A bid to split from Colorado and form the countrys 51st state.
Eye-rolling critics have dubbed the state-to-be Weldistan, after the county leading the charge and alluding to the heavily conservative values of the northeast region considering secession.
Proponents have called it an inevitable result of what they say is a loss of representation in Denver, where Democrats have controlled state government and, in the minds of many rural Coloradans, ignored them in favor of liberal, urban interests.
Questions about how to proceed with such a rare initiative as starting a new state covered a wide spectrum at Mondays meeting. They ranged from whether to include like-minded counties in Nebraska and Kansas to how to ensure, if the effort is successful, that urban areas in the newly formed state wouldnt also begin to ignore less-populated areas and become yet another out-of-touch capital.
But for all the uncertainty, there was one common thread: barely veiled anger at how rural counties perceive theyve been treated by the Democrat-controlled state legislature this year.
Weld County Commissioner Sean Conway called it a nightmare session.
This was the worse legislative session Ive ever seen, he said, how they treated people, how they called bills up on the same day without giving people a chance to testify.
Colorado has made national headlines this year in having passed a full slate of progressive laws, including tough new gun-control laws, new rights for illegal immigrants, regulations for legal marijuana, and many other controversial pieces of legislation.
Several commissioners said the back-breaker was Senate Bill 252, a new measure that requires rural electrical cooperatives to double the amount of renewable energy they offer to customers by 2020. Gov. John Hickenlooper recently signed it into law, despite heavy lobbying to veto it. The bills opponents say it will increase rural customers electricity bills by mandating what they say are unrealistic and expensive goals.
Many of the more than two dozen county commissioners attending the meeting noted that SB 252 was their final straw.
[Senate Bill] 252 is a perfect example of where they rammed it down our throat, said Yuma County Commissioner Trent Bushner. They turned a blind eye to satisfy [Hickenloopers] buddies in the environmental groups.
Im excited about what we can learn from this and where we can take it, he said, but quite honestly, I want this to be a shot across the bow for them to start listening to us.
Like some others, Bushner wasnt convinced that a statehood bid would be successful, even though Weld County Attorney Bruce Barker said that it was a fairly straightforward process at least from a legal perspective.
The first step, he said, was for each countys citizens to vote to officially exclude their county from the state of Colorado. Once those votes were conducted, counties that passed the secession measure assuming they all shared a border would ask voters from all of Colorado to amend the Colorado Constitution to remove their combined area from the state, and require that the state legislature submit a formal request that Congress recognize its 51st member.
If that statewide measure passes, and Congress agrees to enter it into the union, North Colorado or whatever official name is eventually chosen will be created.
Not all the commissioners were sold, with many expressing concern that there hasnt been a groundswell of organized citizen support for the idea, even though many have told them to go for it.
Do I think this has a snowballs chance in hell of passing? Bushner asked. Not really.
But others werent so pessimistic.
Ive heard the phrase snowballs chance in hell, said Weld County Commissioner Douglas Rademacher. Im looking forward to the day hell freezes over.
North Colorado has a lot going for it, according to Weld County Commissioner Barbara Kirkmeyer, noting that the 10 counties in the consortium account for 10 percent of Colorados assessed value, in terms of its agricultural and oil and gas production.
The area, she said, accounts for 40 percent of the assessed value of the states oil and gas.
Overall, she said the counties looking to secede give to the states treasury more than they get in return.
Regardless of the many yet-to-be-answered questions, the group will move forward, agreeing to invite to the next meeting representatives of other counties both inside and outside Colorado who have shown interest in forming a new state.
Conway said the next steps include hiring a professor from the University of Northern Colorado in Greeley to do an in-depth economic assessment of the counties in question, and to work on developing ballot language to take to voters in November.
To make the next election, commissioners have to move fast: The deadline to submit ballot measures is in early August.
Eastern Washington should do this.
They might have a better chance if their stated goal was to join Wyoming.
How about Northern California?
Which color counties?.............
How about Northern California?
We need this in California.
Both Nebraska and Kansas have conservative legislatures and governors and the rural counties are not only adequately represented in legislatures that reflect their conservative nature, then get a fair amount of tax dollars flowing to them. I don't think that the Colorado counties will find a lot of interest.
“Maybe eastern california, and it could also include everything north of Napa.”
You would need to start with Mendocino and Lake counties. Napa and Sonoma counties are RED to their core!
“How about Northern California?”
I guess we can just wait until So Cal officially becomes part of Mexico.
Say, for the sake of argument, that Colorado does allow the counties to split off but the Democrats in the Senate, not wanting two new conservative Republican members, vote down the statehood enabling act. What is the status of the counties then? They aren't part of Colorado because Colorado allowed them to leave. They aren't a state because Congress didn't admit them. Are they a then territory, controlled by D.C., in the same way that Alaska and Hawaii and other states were prior to admission?
“Are they a then territory, controlled by D.C., in the same way that Alaska and Hawaii and other states were prior to admission?”
More likely there will be horse trading that will include admitting Puerto Rico as a majority-Democrat state. Just another revisiting of the Missouri Compromise is what I’d expect.
I say every red county in every state should do this. Isolate the traitors. It would look like a bunch of blue pin chicks on a red background.
There is still a large contingent in western Nebraska who would prefer secession or aligning with KS, WY, or CO. They may find some support in western Nebraska.
Yup. It's been considered before. When Gregoire's happy little election thieves in King County proved to the rest of the state that their votes didn't count, the seed was sown.
Wish we could do that in Maryland. Let the Obama voters from Baltimore, PG, Howard, and Montgomery Counties go their own way.
Poor Charles County has been invaded by the PG’ers to the point they can never recover.
Northern CA and all of eastern CA, including the Sierras..
I’d move there just to escape the lying socialist traitors running LA, SF and Sacramento...The government ruling class in CA aid and abet and are co-conspirators with the feds...Up to their necks..
*****”Eastern Washington should do this.”*****
Eastern Oregon and Most of California as well.
I love to drive down the I-5 & see the ‘State of Jefferson’ sign on someone’s barn. Maybe the Colorado folks will call their new state Franklin or Hamilton. :-)
It’s smack in the middle of the proposed state of “Jefferson” of the 1860’s, which never came into being.
I would think Thomas Jefferson would probably admire them.
Four regions have been proposed as the State of Jefferson. The first was west of Kansas Territory in 1859. Mining communities in the Rocky Mountains came together and requested the formation of their own potential state, called Jefferson. The Kansas government agreed, setting its proposed borders east of Jeffersons. Citizens of Jefferson could not agree on a constitution, however, so it became Jefferson Territory (later Colorado Territory) instead.
Read the full text here: http://mentalfloss.com/article/12641/12-proposed-us-states-didnt-make-cut#ixzz2XGMigi3L
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And East Cauliflowernia, too.
Please include rural southern OR and eastern OR. The new state could be the State of Jefferson, as was proposed years ago. Then from Eugene up to Portland the commies could have their own little state.
Is that still on the barn roof? I haven’t driven down I-5 in quite a few years.
Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
Given that state and federal legislative consent is needed to do what these counties want to do, I don't see the Democratic-controlled federal Senate wanting to create new seats for likely conservative lawmakers.
What am I overlooking?
I wish them success. And Texas should follow in its entirety.
Yes, they are. Liberals, that is. :-D
Eastern WA and Eastern OR should do this together. We’re both tired of the cities along the I-5 corridor from Salem to Seattle running the states into the ground.
They consistently deny any development of the eastern half of the state while fast tracking it on the west side.
Let this go forward provided the Feds cut loose Texas and admit Puerto Rico.
Just a wild guess...The feds operated outside the Constitution, broke the law repeatedly and so can those in the counties?
I saw eight counties previously listed in other articles and wonder which are the other two.
We were down there about a year ago & it was there.
“I say every red county in every state should do this. Isolate the traitors. It would look like a bunch of blue pin chicks on a red background.”
And tell them to provide their own fuel and food! The bastards would starve to death sitting in their cars that have run out of gas! Here in California we could refuse to sell them any marijuana.
Glad it’s still there. Used to cheer me up every time I drove by, especially on the way up from visiting friends in (shudder) Sacramento or San Francisco.
Haven’t been to CA in about 7 years now. They have to come and visit me, I can’t handle going down there any more.
They are welcome to go as far as I am concerned. I am an engineer that works with the transportation formula a lot. That is where the money comes from and where it goes to pay for building and repairing roads. It is not just gas tax. The tax you pay on cars and a number of other things go into the pot. Most of the money comes from the urban areas.
There is also a complicated formula that divides up the money. Some goes to the State, some to counties, and some to Cities. That formula is weighted to give more money to the rural parts of the State than the urban parts of the State. The urban areas carry the rural areas.
If they want to go, I applaud them.