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Marco Rubio: America changes immigrants
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Posted on 06/25/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative

“America changes immigrants, and people will change, especially once they begin to become fully enveloped in the American economic experience. … Your views on these issues begin to evolve rapidly,” Rubio said. “The future of the conservative movement in America is to try to convince as many of our fellow Americans as possible that limited government and free enterprise is the best way forward for them and for our country.”

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Sure, they'll change just like kids who go to college and come out flaming liberals. Only many of these immigrants already grew up as leftys.
1 posted on 06/25/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative

This guy obviously thinks Republicans are a bunch of frakking Rubiots.


2 posted on 06/25/2013 1:52:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Your views on these issues begin to evolve rapidly,”

Yep. They'll come here hungry and grateful and willing to pick tomatoes 14 hours a day for minimal pay. They they'll discover a thing called Welfare. Views evolve.


3 posted on 06/25/2013 1:53:51 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Windy City Conservative

Marco needs to visit Santa Ana, CA.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/gangs-308101-mexican-officials.html


4 posted on 06/25/2013 1:55:54 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Right. Like California changes immigrants.


5 posted on 06/25/2013 1:56:57 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

30 years ago, Santa Ana was an American city.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 1:57:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: Windy City Conservative
"Sen. Marco Rubio gave a lengthy defense of his work on immigration reform on Tuesday, telling a room full of journalists that he wasn’t in the debate to score political points or guarantee Republicans the Hispanic vote, but rather because it’s personal."

You are a United States Senator, Rubio. Your sworn duty is to defend the constitution, defend the nation, not carry out a personal agenda. You were elected by the people to defend against Obama's communist excesses. Traitor!

7 posted on 06/25/2013 1:58:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: skeeter

“Right. Like California changes immigrants.”

They change whats here into the human sewer they came from!


8 posted on 06/25/2013 1:59:36 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Windy City Conservative
“The future of the conservative movement in America is to try to convince as many of our fellow Americans as possible that limited government and free enterprise is the best way forward for them and for our country.”

And we do that by importing millions of poor, illiterate, and unskilled. People dependent upon government largess, who refuse to adopt English as their language, and American cultural values as their own. People who unswervingly vote Democrat. Is that the party of limited government and free enterprise?
9 posted on 06/25/2013 1:59:37 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Not any more, Marco...not any more. They come here and clot in ghettos and barrios, refusing to assimillate while white liberals celebrate their “cultural diversity.”


10 posted on 06/25/2013 1:59:57 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I’m sure America changes immigrants...but illegal immigrants Not So Much!


11 posted on 06/25/2013 2:00:38 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Windy City Conservative

LEGAL Hispanics in California are twice as likely to get government “benefits” as non Hispanics. Does that count as “fully enveloped in the American economic experience”?


12 posted on 06/25/2013 2:00:55 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Zhang Fei

No Rubio...Elections change politicians......


13 posted on 06/25/2013 2:01:15 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Windy City Conservative

It’s easier to change the views of those citizens who already live in America by exposing the Leftist in the DNC, academia, and the media as liars and deceivers who DO NOT HAVE THE INTERESTS OF THE UNDERCLASS AT HEART.

The DNC goal is to keep them dumb, poor (or in debt), and dependent.

Maybe, if you’re lucky, you can get a government job with a pension that kicks in after 20 years of active duty and pays out 90% of your final annual salary for life. So long as you didn’t work in a deadbeat Democrat town like Detroit that is filing for bankruptcy over empty promises.


14 posted on 06/25/2013 2:01:58 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Windy City Conservative
I'm sure it's true - for less than 10% of Hispanic immigrants, legal or not.

15 posted on 06/25/2013 2:02:12 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Hugin
LEGAL Hispanics in California are twice as likely to get government “benefits” as non Hispanics.

Well, part of that may be due to the fact that non-Hispanics are heading east to get away from Mexifornia in larger numbers than Hispanics.

16 posted on 06/25/2013 2:03:46 PM PDT by ssaftler (Oh, hell YEAH!!!! This is absolutely Obama's fault)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Absolutely right. If they tried this toward the authorities at home, they would get shot - now they've changed. :)

17 posted on 06/25/2013 2:04:47 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Windy City Conservative

18 posted on 06/25/2013 2:06:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Marco continues to out himself as being a hispanic first and American second.


19 posted on 06/25/2013 2:09:48 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
"America changes immigrants,"

Yes, but slowly. Which is why immigration (legal or illegal) needs to advance at a slower pace.

It IS true that "hispanics" whose families have been here for over 50 years are far more likely to vote Republican than recent arrivals......in fact, I wish someone would do a survey, I'd bet money that it's over 50%

20 posted on 06/25/2013 2:10:51 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Sure Marco, all those federal programs, benefits and preferential treatment policies are just what is needed to persuade illegals to become conservatives. You da man.


21 posted on 06/25/2013 2:13:36 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Moonman62

That photo makes me want to “go postal.”


22 posted on 06/25/2013 2:14:35 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Windy City Conservative

23 posted on 06/25/2013 2:17:25 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Windy City Conservative

FU enemy rubio.

LLS


24 posted on 06/25/2013 2:18:01 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Windy City Conservative
How illegals view the USA:


And just like it says on the box, NO READING REQUIRED!

25 posted on 06/25/2013 2:18:14 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Now Harry Reid is calling House Republicans, “Crazies”. I guess he is just taking his cue from John McCain who calls conservatives “Hobbits” and “Wacko Birds”. It is high time for a massive march on D.C. by conservatives.


26 posted on 06/25/2013 2:21:22 PM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: magna carta
No Rubio...Elections change politicians......

Yes, once upon a time, maybe, but after all of the profiling and warrant-less wiretaps, IRS intimidation, surveillance, NSA revelations, Benghazi coverup, etc. we've been through/seen and not seen recently, lemme ask you, do you trust the election process and vote count right now?

I wonder if there's been a poll on that and what they found.

27 posted on 06/25/2013 2:22:40 PM PDT by GBA (Progressive US: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
There are areas in Houston that only speak Mexican, err Spanish.

They have their own society within our American/English society.

They don't have to change one bit.

28 posted on 06/25/2013 2:26:31 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Windy City Conservative

Polling from the 2012 election directly contradicts Rubio’s claims. Hispanic voters in the US - supposedly people who came here (or who’s parents/grandparents came here) and were “changed” by America - voted for Obama based on support for ObamaCare. Not immigration.

I really wish someone would call Rubio, and other GOP supporters of amnesty, out on this.


29 posted on 06/25/2013 2:27:15 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Windy City Conservative

Where’s your evidence, Marco?


30 posted on 06/25/2013 2:46:38 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Of course it changes them! It teaches them they can get all kinds of free stuff.

It changes the country, also. Into a third-world wannabe.


31 posted on 06/25/2013 2:48:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Marco, you’re an effin tool, STFU and go away already.


32 posted on 06/25/2013 2:48:27 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Nice!


33 posted on 06/25/2013 2:50:13 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
"“America changes immigrants,"

Yes, but slowly,....

which is why immigration should not occur rapidly, especially from groups with massive numbers (and therefore disincentives to assimilation).

It WOULD be interesting to see a survey comparing voting preferences of recent hispanic immigrants (legal or otherwise), as opposed to those whose families are in their 3rd generation. From my experience in a Hispanic-heavy state, I'd be willing to bet the long-termers vote Republican about as often as the non-hispanics.

34 posted on 06/25/2013 3:00:39 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: clintonh8r

You are so right! I see that myself here in NYC. I am SICK of having to punch 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, etc. in my OWN COUNTRY.


35 posted on 06/25/2013 3:16:47 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Windy City Conservative

That statement held some truth to it 50 years ago. In the past decades immigrants, especially those from Latin/Hispanic
countries, have particularly isolated themselves from becoming true U.S. Citizens. And both the Federal and State governments have aided and abetted this isolation by pushing us towards a bilingual country. We should have NEVER accepted the printing of Spanish forms, signs, etc. here in the USA. Every immigrant group has assimilated themselves by learning the language. By not doing so, these immigrants have thumbed their noses or flipped the bird to our country that they want to be welcomed in.


36 posted on 06/25/2013 3:36:27 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Rubio is toast...here in Florida we are all asking “what the hell were we thinking’?


37 posted on 06/25/2013 3:38:23 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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An admission about the character of the individuals he wishes to grant amnesty.

Rubio is an idiot.

The “normal” motive of the legitimate immigrant is to enhance the liberties, independence, and strength of the United States. It’s not the US’ responsibility to repair the illegal aliens Rubio is so attached to.

Rubio is an idiot.


38 posted on 06/25/2013 3:40:44 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Senator Marco Rubio: “The future of the conservative movement in America is to try to convince as many of our fellow Americans as possible that limited government and free enterprise is the best way forward for them and for our country.”

Agreed, but limited government and free enterprise has to come first. The social welfare state provides a perverse incentive to NOT work harder by making it much harder to work one’s way up out of poverty. Previous generations of immigrants worked hard and assimilated because they had to. That no longer applies.


39 posted on 06/25/2013 3:43:19 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Rubio is promoting his own agenda now.

His sworn duty is to uphold his oath of office, and nothing else.


40 posted on 06/25/2013 3:46:23 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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LOL!
Yeah, America “changes” them into Democrat moochers. Look around.


41 posted on 06/25/2013 3:52:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

Find it strange when the excuse is being given that while the government knows whats going on in 300 million citizens lives but because the illegals are not citizens and in “the shadows” according to Florida’s Senator Rubio the US doesn’t know who they are or where they’re comming from so we must make them citizens..

THE QUESTION IS SENATORS AND CONGRESS MEMBERS ...WHY ARE YOU SO SET ON IMPORTING LOW WAGE LABORERS MAINLY FROM ONE COUNTRY WHICH TAKE UP JOBS OUR YOUTH COULD BE PERFORMING AND HURTING THE BLACK AMERICANS JOB MARKET ?

FR’s ; are urged to visit their respective Congressional Representatives and let them know their feelings

WHEN IT COMES TO AMNESTY

THIS IS THE MEXICAN PART NO ONE DARES MENTION

If you agree with the above and the following please don’t let it lay here in FR-land. Pass it on to to your favorite talk show host and to your US legislators. PUSH THE HASTERT RULE.

ONE NATIONALITY AMNESTY SKEWS QUOTAS. HURTS OTHERS FROM SOUTH AMERICA, AND SKILLED LABOR QUOTAS FROM OTHER NATIONS ...WORSE YET OFFERING AMNESTY FOR NATIONALS FROM A COUNTRY THAT HAS CLAIMS ON OUR NATIONAL TERRITORY THAT COULD AND HAS TURNED INTO PROBLEMS FOR BORDER STATES CLAIMED BY MEXICO .

In that May 3rd speech Obama gave before the Mexican Anthropological Museum in which he blamed America for the violence in Mexico I believe he went even futhur. There’s a inference but never referenced by name to the Gasden purchase and border settlements US made with Mexico where Obama hinted he seems to side with the Mexican claims. Would those in attendence share that view is a question that should be asked, because I believe they would,.he does.

SOLVING THE ‘LATINO” PROBLEM A MYTH HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE BUT A POLITICAL LINGUISTIC CONTRIVANCE ...don’t fall into the hyphenated Americans trap created by the hyphenated political party ...The DEMO-COMS

The Mexicans have been getting most favorable treatment above the rest of our neighbors both north and south. They’re permitted to cross our borders and enter illegally and are allowed access to rights of citizenship (with the exception of voting which if the democrat party regains control over the House will happen) other nationals entering this country don’t get.. Worse yet the Obama government has been working hand in glove with Mexican movements such as LaRaza supporting the Mexican claims which are also supporting “Amnesty”.

Also by allowing Mexicans to do this any quota ration for immigration from other south and central American countrys are taken up by Mexicans while that country is laying claim to a large chunk of our sovereign territory is a recipe for later serious problems which are happening now.

ARE MEXICAN ILLEGALS SQUATTERS PERPETUATING THE MEXICAN CLAIMS ?

We are already seeing the result of this in certain areas claimed by the Mexicans. Their national flag (standard) gets displayed over ours. Where there is a controlling number of Mexican nationals (illegals). It’s displayed over certain institutions particularly schools accompanied by riots and disturbances. Blacks are threatend by Mexicans in certain sections of citys in those areas. We’re courting trouble by not placing a value on our sovereignty and our citizenship.

MOST COINS OF THE REALM HAVE TWO FACES WHAT ABOUT HOW ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN MEXICO BEING TREATED ?

Worse yet if a US citizen goes into Mexico never mind illegaly but legally. They’ll get 2nd class treatment. Land ownership in title is prohibited period. And there are a slew of regulations they must comply with. Which doesn’t apply to a citizen of Mexico

THE SOLUTION ASSERT OUR SOVEREIGNTY AND TALK RECIPROCITY .

By not insisting on reciprocity particularly on those who have entered this country illegally we’re offering no incentive for assimilation and we’re not easing the burden for our fellow citizens who for what ever reason decided to live in Mexico.

ENOUGH OF THE ONE WORLD SOCIALISM ...BRING BACK SOVEREIGNTY AND SANITY TO OUR COUNTRY .....BRING BACK BELIEF IN GOD ...THIS GOVERNMENT OUT OUR FACE..... OUR RELIGIONS..... AND OUR BEDROOMS..


42 posted on 06/25/2013 4:10:31 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Actually, it's the other way around, Marco. Immigration is transforming America into something unrecognizable.

Mexican immigration is changing America from the most advanced nation on Earth into a dirty, third world barrio. What were once decent middle class neighborhoods throughout the southwest (and increasingly elsewhere) now look like filthy slums covered in litter and festooned in graffiti.

43 posted on 06/25/2013 4:20:18 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Windy City Conservative

Rubio is as much of an egomaniac as obuma. He’s hoping to run for president and expecting liberal, 30 IQ Mexicans to vote for him because he’s in favor of amnesty for criminals.

He’s also as delusional as obuma. Rubio is Graham’s twin sister.


44 posted on 06/25/2013 4:23:45 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Windy City Conservative

He’d be right if he was talking about immigrants before government hand-outs. But who in their right mind would vote for someone who’s going to take their pay check?


45 posted on 06/25/2013 4:31:11 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: TexasCajun

In California we have whole towns like that. I grew up in one that was mostly white except for a few old Mexican families.
Now it is 99.9% Mexican.


46 posted on 06/25/2013 5:05:17 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Windy City Conservative

Memo to Marco: These people come from third world socialist dictatorships. They are used to keeping their mouth shut and doing what they are told. They are natural Democrats.


47 posted on 06/25/2013 5:35:46 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cookcounty

Let me tell you a little anecdote about that. I have some ethnically Mexican family by marriage. The first generation people who remain are patriotic Americans with traditional values. The second generation is a little Kooky Kalifornian with a few standouts who served this nation and are basically Reaganites raising their families right. The third generation is generally a disaster, with several on welfare, most of the girls having been bred by multiple illegal aliens, and all are off the charts leftists. Every goddamned one! Now maybe things would have been different had the family left California, but the end result is that the first generation is pro-America, socially and mostly fiscally conservative, not even remotely anti-Caucasian, and generally speak perfect English with no accent. The third generation is, as I said, a disaster. The impact of the illegal alien invasion has caused those people (and their communities) to regress toward the Turd World mean. I bet you are generally right, outside of areas heavily infested with illegal aliens.


48 posted on 06/25/2013 5:47:14 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: skeeter
America changes immigrants.

I suspect that these politicians are not as interested in America changing immigrants as they are in immigrants changing America.

49 posted on 06/25/2013 5:49:01 PM PDT by old republic
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To: old republic

rubio hates Free America. Just what is his problem? What a punk.


50 posted on 06/25/2013 6:09:14 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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