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Snowden hid copies of secret NSA documents in case something happens to him
http://rt.com/usa/snowden-greenwald-encrypted-copies-227/ ^

Posted on 06/25/2013 3:58:07 PM PDT by kronos77

A trove of classified documents supplied to The Guardian newspaper by NSA leaker Edward Snowden has been copied and shared with several people around the globe, journalist Glenn Greenwald told The Daily Beast on Tuesday.

Greenwald, the Guardian reporter who first began publishing National Security Agency documents earlier this month after meeting with the former intelligence contractor, told journalist Eli Lake that Snowden made arrangements to ensure others around the world have encrypted copies of that information should any circumstances allow the data or its source to be compromised.

Snowden “has taken extreme precautions to make sure many different people around the world have these archives to insure the stories will inevitably be published,” Greenwald said. He added that the files are “highly encrypted” and corresponding passwords to render them readable have not yet been distributed.

According to Lake, Greenwald said, “if anything happens at all to Edward Snowden, he told me he has arranged for them to get access to the full archives.” Greenwald previously claimed that Snowden provided him with the archives of "thousands" of documents, dozens of which he considered to be newsworthy. Revelations published thus far by The Guardian and attributed to Snowden have generated international headlines and responses from presidential administrations worldwide.

The latest news from Greenwald comes in the midst of an international manhunt for Snowden that has made awkward the relations between the United States and other nations around the globe. The US unsealed an indictment against Snowden on Friday, but has been unable to extradite him to the country where he faces charges of espionage.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: nsa; putin; russia; snowden; sourcetitlenoturl

1 posted on 06/25/2013 3:58:07 PM PDT by kronos77
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To: kronos77

I wonder if he sent copies to that dead guy in LA.


2 posted on 06/25/2013 3:59:04 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: kronos77

How could he do all this in 3 months?


3 posted on 06/25/2013 4:04:11 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: petitfour
I'm sure Hastings would not have been interested, since his main concern in life was "outing" military personnel who did not love Obama sufficiently.
4 posted on 06/25/2013 4:05:16 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: petitfour

Most likely. Some serious stuff in those files, this one is big as Kim Philby


5 posted on 06/25/2013 4:05:31 PM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: yldstrk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xudGq2FUE1Y


6 posted on 06/25/2013 4:06:14 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,)
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To: yldstrk
In his online Q&A, Snowden stated that he specifically sought out his Booz Allen contract job because he believed it would enable him to have enough access to steal all the data he wanted access to.

He planned everything fairly carefully.

I'm sure the actual downloading only took a few minutes.

7 posted on 06/25/2013 4:07:47 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: yldstrk
How could he do all this in 3 months?

It looks like he was planning this for a long time. Time will tell but from where I stand I would like to know what really the NSA was and is doing. With our government under the control of King Obama and his communists empire, it is scary.

8 posted on 06/25/2013 4:10:39 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: yldstrk

It’s not as if he had to locate, open and photograph physical documents. Nor did he have to make physical copies of said documents, and find vaults to store them in. How long does it take you to copy a computer file onto an encrypted thumb drive.


9 posted on 06/25/2013 4:11:10 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: yldstrk

The collecting is not the issue, that’s easy.

How did he get in position. That’s the question.


10 posted on 06/25/2013 4:16:22 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: yldstrk
How could he do all this in 3 months?

Takes 3 minutes.

11 posted on 06/25/2013 4:21:50 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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Maybe this is a good time for a little golf in Africa?



12 posted on 06/25/2013 4:21:52 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- it not unlegal iffen I do*s it ----- ----- -----)
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To: kronos77

Where, in Sandy Berger’s pants?


13 posted on 06/25/2013 4:24:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kronos77

I’m thinking something has “happened” to him. The KGB has him (Oh silly me, there is no more KGB in modern, freedom loving, democratic Russia) I doubt that if I wanted to strike a blow for openness, freedom of speech and government transparency and against corruption, I would go first to China and then on to Russia.

There is plenty of dark humor here seeing that Snowden planned to next travel either Cuba, Ecuador or Venezuela. Anyhow, thanks for the wake up call.


14 posted on 06/25/2013 4:26:05 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: kronos77

What is Joe Biden?

Health Insurance.

(2008 joke)


15 posted on 06/25/2013 4:28:11 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: dfwgator

No, silly, on thumb drives.


16 posted on 06/25/2013 4:40:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: petitfour
Good point...

Makes you think about why they waited so long to issue a warrant....They were following him in one way or another.

17 posted on 06/25/2013 4:41:24 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: kronos77
Can we say WikiLeaks?


18 posted on 06/25/2013 4:55:53 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: kronos77

What goes around comes around, baby! The same creeps who celebrated Daniel Ellsberg’s publishing the unexpurgated Pentagon Papers in the NYT, instead of PROSECUTING the b@sturd; are now twisting their hankies in knots and decrying Snowden’s expose’ of the unconstitutional outrages by runaway, power-mad cabinet departments, undoubtedly with the blessing of the Poser-in Cheap; a wink is as good as a nod!


19 posted on 06/25/2013 5:07:32 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Hardraade

He WAS, after all a Systems Administrator. That means he could change accesses, copy, even hide files.

MY guess ? He created a hidden share, and then elevated to superuser, did a stealth copy, and wrote it to the hidden share.

When he had everything he wanted, he harvested to several large USB drives, then wiped the record of the USB insertion and file write.

Or he booted a workstation from a USB key with a Linux image on it, and copied with no traces on the physical filesystems. . .

The audit records will tell, but none of us will ever see or hear what they learned from him. . .


20 posted on 06/25/2013 5:08:02 PM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: kronos77

I have not heard anyone else bring this up yet... Once Snowden publishes enough validated dirt on government snooping he will then be free to CREATE more documentation out of thin air! He has the skill to create such false documents and nearly everyone will believe him and discount any denials. :-)

Just think of the possibilities.....

Benghazi, Targeting of political enemies. Monitoring of elected officials and the later blackmailing of same...etc


21 posted on 06/25/2013 5:17:34 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: kronos77
He added that the files are “highly encrypted” and corresponding passwords to render them readable have not yet been distributed.

Hope he doesn't die in the next 10 minutes or so or all that drama would have been for nothing.........

22 posted on 06/25/2013 5:20:40 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I doubt that the statement that no one has the passwords is true.


23 posted on 06/25/2013 5:31:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wideawake
I'm sure the actual downloading only took a few minutes.

Frankly, if I put my BOFH hat on and gain the requisite level of access, the actual op might only take an hour or two. A single usb stick can load a DVD worth of info in a few minutes. All he has to do is load up a lunchbox full and transfer it to an unsecured network with sufficient bandwidth and it's out of hand. As an admin he probably could visit the server facility, if he had access to classified and unclassified networks and along with lame-ass security he could make the whole thing leak like a tarpaper roof in a hailstorm.

Really. I remember a DOD contract where the people inside the "secure facility" could interact with any outsider via AIM using the AOL servers. What a joke. And that turned out to be the tip of the iceberg.

24 posted on 06/25/2013 5:48:54 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: kronos77

Of course he did. It is life insurance for him.


25 posted on 06/25/2013 6:07:57 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” - Tacitus)
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To: little jeremiah

Or the people with the passwords do not have the encrypted files which were more widely distributed. If he was smart (which I am still not sure about) he would have generated random passwords, sent them out to a couple people and not kept or looked at them. That way the KGB can’t beat the passwords out of him.


26 posted on 06/25/2013 6:10:40 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: petitfour
I wonder if he sent copies to that dead guy in LA.

Which one ? They drop like flies in LA.

27 posted on 06/25/2013 7:13:03 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: yldstrk

As I explained on another thread: He was a sysadmin, with root access.


28 posted on 06/25/2013 7:13:41 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Salgak

He could also set up a script with suid turned on and siphon off all manner of info - with the witless assistance of users of the system.


29 posted on 06/25/2013 7:15:09 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: little jeremiah

http://www.deadmansswitch.net/


30 posted on 06/25/2013 7:19:17 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Salgak
The audit records will tell, but none of us will ever see or hear what they learned from him. . .

They have already stated they have no idea what he took. So if he was real good, he would have changed system time, done his work, then changed the time back to present. Makes it more difficult to track his actions. Some hackers have done that to my online sites in the past. And if he was real good he had the time changing randomly while he was doing his work.

Basically they are completely out of luck. Clueless. And this is exactly why you cannot ever construct a digital data base like this. Never ever. Oh well. The former US government has learned that lesson. They have all been compromised and they all must immediately resign. That is what happens in the real world. The entire government resigns when it has become a security risk and/or becomes horribly compromised.

31 posted on 06/25/2013 7:25:47 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: little jeremiah
I doubt that the statement that no one has the passwords is true.

My guess - He has distributed sealed envelopes to people around the planet. These people open the letters if he is killed. The letters could contain the cypher codes to the encryption or just partial codes. My guess is the people he sent them too wont ever tell anyone they have them. Especially now.

32 posted on 06/25/2013 7:34:34 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape; palmer; Fresh Wind

Thanks for the link, FW - reading it now.

And I cannot imagine that no one has any way to get into what he has. A person would have to be extremely nuts/stupid not to have made arrangments of some kind.


33 posted on 06/25/2013 8:17:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

In reality, all he needed to take was the database schemas with the record counts.

50 or so schemas would tell anyone what, who and how many people are in it.


34 posted on 06/25/2013 8:26:32 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: darkwing104
Indeed...Assange and his team is on a roll.... Heck he may use some of Waldo's documents to blackmail his way out of the Embassy in London. I would not put anything past Assange.

Assange leaked documents WITH names of ‘our’ informants,.... he would not listen to reason from others about putting peoples life at stack...Assanges response...”They were informants, they deserve to die”....He released the documents and those informants were caught and tortured....needless to say many of Assanges team broke off from him after that.

And this guy is handling Snowden? He wants the Documents and cares little for Snowden.

35 posted on 06/25/2013 8:37:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: little jeremiah

Even if they are encrypted...Ha!..the subculture nerds can and likely will crack the password....not to mention you can bet nations leaders will have their people on it.

Besides...this whole thing is Assange’s doing and Waldo is his stooge... I’m sticking to that story as I said from the get go. Assange is running this, and was from the get go...along with his team doing the foot work.


36 posted on 06/25/2013 8:42:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Even if they are encrypted...Ha!..the subculture nerds can and likely will crack the password....not to mention you can bet nations leaders will have their people on it.

No they wont. They could not crack the Climategate files that remained encrypted and they had them for a few years. The hacker later released the cypher key and finally, we could learn more detail about yet another conspiracy from the outlaw US government.

37 posted on 06/25/2013 9:42:31 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Well then looks like Waldo’s going to be on the run no matter how he plays this....but then he said he likely would be.


38 posted on 06/25/2013 9:57:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: palmer

Assange’s group has these documents and the passwords ...they likely won’t be hacked...

However I wonder if the guy who was his right hand man won’t be trying...they had a huge fallout...he knows well how Assange works it...he’s the one who developed much of what Assange used in the documents he stole.

The real action now is going on underground on the net...or soon will be...to get at these documents.


39 posted on 06/25/2013 10:59:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: gov_bean_ counter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xudGq2FUE1Y

That outfit doesn't work if you are looking for Aeroflot SU 150. It was amusing how Snowden got all those newsies (such as Max Seddon of AP) to buy tickets on that 12-hour dry flight to Cuber and then failed to board.

40 posted on 06/25/2013 11:20:46 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Sacajaweau

I wonder if he listened to Axlerod/Obama conversations regarding his nationality, education, and his total commitment to communism.


41 posted on 06/25/2013 11:31:49 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: Bobalu

Could Snowden actually have Obama by the balls?


42 posted on 06/25/2013 11:36:06 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: kronos77
Some serious stuff in those files, this one is big as Kim Philby

Do you think Eddie will end up on a postage stamp?

Kind of funny: if you put words at the top into Google Translate, it comes back as "Soviet Scout". But if you then add Ким Филби, the output changes to "the Soviet spy Kim Philby".

43 posted on 06/25/2013 11:37:54 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Texas Songwriter

Yes!

If Snowden plays his hand smartly he will have them by the short hairs.

The NSA’s reputation is in the gutter while Snowden’s is rising.

At a certain point the NSA will be totally unable to disprove anything Snowden presents as data supposedly gleaned from NSA data stores. As long as the data is plausible and delivered smartly any attempt to discount it will just lend more credence to it. The NSA is not in a enviable position at all in this mess of their own making.


44 posted on 06/25/2013 11:47:36 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: little jeremiah

My guess on that: he has a “timebomb” program running SOMEWHERE, hidden again, that requires him to connect and enter a password or somesuch every “x” days. No check in after “x” days ? Triggers a telnet session over port 25 (SMTP) and dumps the passwords to email to selected people.

And my NEXT guess is he set THAT up sometime before he moved to the job at Booz Allen . . .


45 posted on 06/26/2013 1:31:03 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Logical me
It looks like he was planning this for a long time. Time will tell but from where I stand I would like to know what really the NSA was and is doing. With our government under the control of King Obama and his communists empire, it is scary.

Your fellow FReepers were keeping tabs on this stuff over 10 years ago.

Total Information Awareness (TIA) System - Nov 25, 2002 (Free Republic)

EPIC.org Total Information Awareness (TIA) News Nov 25, 2002 (Free Republic)

Critics say Defense 'Total Information Awareness' Impractical - Dec 12, 2002 (Free Republic)

TOTAL INFORMATION AWARENESS (TIA) UPDATE - Feb 7, 2003 (Free Republic)

Pentagon spy database funding revealed (Total Information Awareness ) - Feb 27, 2003 (Free Republic)

Total Information Awareness - Mar 8, 2007 (Free Republic)

Total Information Awareness Project Undergoes First Test - Apr 10, 2003 (Free Republic)

U.S. Pressing for High-Tech Spy Tools (Total Information Awareness) - Feb 22, 2004 (Free Republic)

U.S. Still Mining Terror Data (Total Information Awareness Program) - Feb 23, 2004 (Free Republic)


46 posted on 06/27/2013 7:01:23 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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