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Rahm Emanuel seeks big fines for gun offenses near schools
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | June 25, 2013 | FRANK MAIN

Posted on 06/25/2013 4:39:54 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA

Mayor Rahm Emanuel hopes to keep gunslingers away from public schools, buses and “safe passage” routes by creating a city ordinance with stiff fines for weapon offenses.

The proposed ordinance comes on the heels of CPS’ closing of 49 elementary schools under a plan to tackle low enrollment. Most of the schools are on the West and South Sides.

The closings have prompted CPS to expand the number of protected safe-passage routes that students take to school. Parents are concerned that their children will have to cross gang boundaries on their way to new schools.

The ordinance, which the mayor intends to introduce Wednesday to the City Council, would create new “school safety zones.” Anyone convicted of possessing a gun, ammunition or another “dangerous weapon” in a zone would face a fine of $1,000 to $5,000 for the first offense and a mandatory 30 days in jail.

A second offense would carry a fine of $5,000 to $15,000 and a mandatory three months in jail.

A third offense would carry a fine of $10,000 to $20,000 and a mandatory six-month jail term.

The zones would cover property within 1,000 feet of a school — including parks — during school operating hours from 6 a.m. to 7 p.m. They also would include safe-passage routes and buses during those hours.

A city ordinance violation carries less potential time behind bars than a misdemeanor or felony conviction.

“We are always going to seek the highest level of charging for any crime,” said Steve Georgas, deputy chief of patrol for the Chicago Police. “But if the state’s attorney does not agree, this gives us another tool.”

Ald. Walter Burnett (27th), who plans to sponsor the ordinance, said gang members “need to understand schools are off-limits.” He said the stiff fines could serve as a deterrent.

But Todd Vandermyde, a lobbyist for the National Rifle Association in Illinois, blasted the proposal as a “feel-good announcement that will not achieve anything.”

Vandermyde said anyone who obtains a concealed-carry permit in the future would be exempt from the ordinance. That would leave criminals who have not obtained their guns legally, he said.

“Do you honestly see judges issuing $10,000 fines to gang-bangers?” he said. “Judges are letting gang-bangers off the hook with felony UUW [gun possession] convictions.”

Vandermyde also wondered whether the city could legally impose a fine larger than the $2,500 maximum fine for the more serious crime of misdemeanor gun possession.

“Every time Chicago has crossed the line, we have shown we will take them to court,” he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; bluezones; chicago; corruption; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; rahm; secondamendment; thuggovernment; tyranny
Chicago, you really deserve this. You have failed to keep your freedom and you are doomed.
1 posted on 06/25/2013 4:39:54 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

“revenue enhancement”


2 posted on 06/25/2013 4:41:04 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

So if the perp does a drive by shooting near a school he has the fear of a big fine..........bahahahahaha


3 posted on 06/25/2013 4:41:05 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Then Jessie can sue him for ‘disproportionately targeting’ the sons of Obama who DO the gun crime near schools...win/win.


4 posted on 06/25/2013 4:41:43 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: ConservativeInPA

Yup, we’ve got to draw the line at the school house door. Anarchy is fine elsewhere, but stay away from the schools or we might actually come after you!


5 posted on 06/25/2013 4:42:01 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Wouldn’t that be great.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 4:42:39 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I will *never* visit Chicago. It’s a shame to say that because I’d really love to visit some of the museums there but when it is safer for me to take my family to see the museums in Baghdad then I can’t justify taking the kids to Chicago.


7 posted on 06/25/2013 4:42:44 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Oh yeah: This will scare the piss out of a gang member.

Is he kidding us?


8 posted on 06/25/2013 4:43:59 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: ConservativeInPA

this is all about revenue generation and keeping law abiding people disarmed.


9 posted on 06/25/2013 4:44:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: MeganC

I have always wanted to go the the Field Museum in Chicago. I used to work in Chicago as a consultant in the early 90’s. I ain’t going back.


10 posted on 06/25/2013 4:44:43 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

If he doesn’t, someone should sue them both for discrimination ;)


11 posted on 06/25/2013 4:44:45 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Al Sharpton sues Jessie for not suing Rahm. Priceless.


12 posted on 06/25/2013 4:45:46 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA
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13 posted on 06/25/2013 4:46:13 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Hitler would have LOVED obozo!)
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To: stockpirate

And if he drives by faster than 20mph, even bigger fine.
Ohh I feel so much safer...


14 posted on 06/25/2013 4:47:05 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: ConservativeInPA

And we sue Al for bigotry because no or almost no whites get arrested ;)


15 posted on 06/25/2013 4:48:50 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: ConservativeInPA

Much like the rest of this once great country.


16 posted on 06/25/2013 4:51:50 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: ConservativeInPA

If he can’t stop the gun crime how is he going to force payment of the fines?


17 posted on 06/25/2013 4:56:53 PM PDT by South40
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To: Venturer

Think about it.. Tagging a $5,000 fine on a multiple murder will scare the begeebers out of any fiscally conscience gangbanger on a drive-by.. GEEEEZE, whats wrong with this picture?.. :)


18 posted on 06/25/2013 4:57:28 PM PDT by carlo3b (Speechless in Sugar Land)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Getting money from the lowlife shooters will be like getting blood out of a turnip.


19 posted on 06/25/2013 4:58:55 PM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: Dick Bachert
i doubt there's anything up there that would interest a fag like him...
20 posted on 06/25/2013 5:08:48 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MeganC

Forty years ago I moved to Chicago for a couple of years. It was a great city in those days. It’s a shame what these clowns have done to it.


21 posted on 06/25/2013 5:14:28 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: ConservativeInPA

No possession of a gun within 1,000 feet of a school? That would criminalize 90% of the gun owners in Chicago. Pretty much every neighborhood has some kind of school within 1,000 feet of one’s home.


22 posted on 06/25/2013 5:15:56 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
"A third offense would carry a fine of $10,000 to $20,000 and a mandatory six-month jail term."

The $20,000 will come from where, exactly? I can't imagine that the net household worth of the average Chicago gangster is all that high. This is about the dumbest thing I've heard since I heard Anthony Weiner was in the lead in the race for NYC Mayor. Also today.


23 posted on 06/25/2013 5:16:39 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: MeganC

Forty years ago I moved to Chicago for a couple of years. It was a great city in those days. It’s a shame what these clowns have done to it.


24 posted on 06/25/2013 5:20:11 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: ConservativeInPA
I don't understand. Why doesn't the Chicago City Council just pass a law that says murder is a felony? That would completely fix the problem.

Oh, wait.

25 posted on 06/25/2013 5:23:25 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Yet sex offenders can live just a few blocks away from a school.


26 posted on 06/25/2013 5:52:57 PM PDT by jodster36
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To: jodster36
Yet sex offenders can live just a few blocks away from a school.

You can bet your sweet bippie that a bunch of faggot teachers are in the schools.

27 posted on 06/25/2013 6:04:00 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Good thinkin’ Rhambo. Those gun control laws sure stop the violence in Chicago, don’t they.


28 posted on 06/25/2013 6:23:11 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

I spent a whole week in Chicago last night. I never want to go there again unarmed!


29 posted on 06/25/2013 7:21:53 PM PDT by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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