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Zimmerman Trial Day 2 – Analysis of State’s Witnesses (BONUS: hilarious tweets of Prosecution woes)
legalinsurrection.com ^ | Tuesday, June 25, 2013 | Andrew Branca

Posted on 06/25/2013 6:59:19 PM PDT by jiggyboy

Today can only be characterized as an utter debacle for the prosecution in Florida v. Zimmerman. Besides the testimony of a couple of highly professional law enforcement witnesses, the testimony of the the other State witnesses ranged from signing George Zimmerman’s praises, to acknowledging the utility of following a suspicious person from a distance, to being utterly discredited by razor sharp cross-examination of the defense.

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...it hardly seems that a half-dozen recordings of Zimmerman calmly phoning the police precisely as he had been instructed by them can much advance their charges of second degree murder.

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The next, shall we say, interesting witness called by the State, and the last witness of the day, was Selene Bahadoor. She was one of the residents of Twin Lakes whose townhouse bordered on the scene of the altercation between Zimmerman and Martin, and who took note of the event as it happened. As such, she was really the first substantive witness to date who would, purportedly, be able to share some direct knowledge of the events as they unfolded.

O’Mara handled the cross-examination of Bahadoor, and it was very quickly apparent that this person who had promised to be the State’s star witness of the day–and perhaps of the entire trial–was about to be have her testimony and credibility utterly, indeed humiliatingly, crushed before the jury.

O’Mara then asked if it would be fair to say that Bahadoor had sympathy for the Martin family. “I have sympathy for both families,” she answered, somewhat aloof.

“But,” noted O’Mara, “you “liked” the Facebook page for the Martin family, but not the Facebook page for the Zimmerman family.”

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Do read the whole thing if you have a little time. These are just the "takeaways", as HLN says about five times every hour.

He doesn't note that O'Mara also made Bahadoor admit that she also signed an on-line petition demanding that GZ be prosecuted. O'Mara didn't take the time to additionally show that she was responsible for getting two other people to sign the petition as well -- yesterday.

He has more hilarious tweets on the Prosecution mishaps than Bernie De La Ronda asked leading questions:

#Zimmerman Trial: Rumored: State to charge all of its own witnesses with second degree murder

#Zimmerman Trial: Rumored: West to do rest of cross while breathing helium, to "lift State's spirits"

#Zimmerman Trial: Rumored: Court clerk tearfully admits accidentally switching witness lists

#Zimmerman Trial: Rumored: Sheriffs collect belts, shoelaces from prosecution team

#Zimmerman Trial: State wondering if they should be dialing 911 or non-emergency number to deal with witness

https://twitter.com/LawSelfDefense

1 posted on 06/25/2013 6:59:19 PM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: Uncle Chip; SeekAndFind; 2ndDivisionVet; Hojczyk; MNDude; Hotlanta Mike; lbryce; ...

ping to the folks who have posted threads today and yd


2 posted on 06/25/2013 7:02:47 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

That this guy was even arrested much less brought to trial is a joke, but I have no doubt he will be convicted thanks to the soft tyranny will now live under, totally sanctioned by the RINO party by the way, where an admitted foreign born twice unconstitutionally elected communist Kenyan can command his legions to not only railroad a citizen but also threaten said citizens life on a daily basis for simply defending himself.


3 posted on 06/25/2013 7:06:15 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: jiggyboy
Once Zimmerman is acquitted he should sue for malicious prosecution.

More evidence that the gubment is out of control and needs to be removed.

4 posted on 06/25/2013 7:16:15 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: jiggyboy
Sounds like the prosecution's witnesses are unwilling to lie to convict Zimmerman. That is encouraging.

I was a little worried about O’Mara, but he seems to be doing a superb job.

5 posted on 06/25/2013 7:19:00 PM PDT by TChad
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To: jiggyboy

Thanks for the post, and especially the link to Legalinsurrection. Very nice summary of the day’s action, indeed.

One minor point: Is it just me, or does “Diane Smith, Crime Scene Technician, Sanford Police Department” strike other Freepers as looking like a total moron. Something about her facial expression. I’d say that she looks like a retard, if that weren’t so very politically incorrect.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 7:21:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jiggyboy

bump for later


7 posted on 06/25/2013 7:30:41 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Cicero

Her response style was so obviously over-coached and unnaturally mechanical that I couldn’t even watch it all. Every response was the same: She would take somewhere between 1.5 and 2.0 seconds to drop her head to the microphone, always answer “Yes, that is correct”, pause another 0.5 seconds, look at the jury, and slowly back away from the microphone. That went on for an hour.


8 posted on 06/25/2013 7:30:58 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: TChad

[[I was a little worried about O’Mara]]

I was too- I’d heard how brilliant he was, but wasn’t seeignm uch of it beofere the trial, although we weren’t really privy to much of what was goign on behind hte scenes- the next few days will show what he’s made of though- The opening latwyer for hte defense htrough- WOW- I really hope he doesn’t have much time o nthe floor- maybe he’s good, by wow is he boring- my heart sunk for george after listyenign to him


9 posted on 06/25/2013 7:31:24 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: jiggyboy

Damn interesting read . . . the whole thing. The entire case for the state seems to be imploding right before our eyes . . .


10 posted on 06/25/2013 7:38:02 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: jiggyboy
just read the whole post at link.

it would appear that the prosecutor is simply going along for the ride to keep Capt Hymie Town and Al Shaptongue out of the city?

They know they don't have a case but would rather be able to say " we tried or best" instead of having to deal with the two race pimps inferred to above?

Prosecution is probably going "easy" trying to save city money to use for LEO overtime when the riots start?

11 posted on 06/25/2013 7:39:56 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Cicero
One minor point: Is it just me, or does “Diane Smith, Crime Scene Technician, Sanford Police Department” strike other Freepers as looking like a total moron. Something about her facial expression. I’d say that she looks like a retard, if that weren’t so very politically incorrect.

Are we going to go by her looks, or her testimony?

She was very sharp, answered questions crisply and clearly, and identified every 'marker' in the photos the Prosecution put on display without any delay or mistake.

12 posted on 06/25/2013 7:40:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: jiggyboy
Thanks JB....great blow by blow description of the trial....... my prayers for GZ....
13 posted on 06/25/2013 7:44:35 PM PDT by virgil283 ( ... """" With God all things are possible."''''''' ....)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Once Zimmerman is acquitted he should sue for malicious prosecution.


And sue the race baiters like Sharpton for libel...


14 posted on 06/25/2013 7:44:54 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: jiggyboy

Angela Corey should be dis-barred for bringing this farce case.


15 posted on 06/25/2013 7:48:03 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: CottShop

O’Mara is a legal genius ...handling things exactly as he should.... appealing to the jury in quiet expert logic...believable and non aggressive...i’d hire this genius in a minute...


16 posted on 06/25/2013 7:48:48 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: TChad

O’Mara did very well today.

One should never prejudge the outcome of a trial until the defense presents its case. In this situation, the defense cross-examinations are going to destroy the prosecution.


17 posted on 06/25/2013 7:49:24 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Cicero
Is it just me, or does “Diane Smith, Crime Scene Technician, Sanford Police Department” strike other Freepers as looking like a total moron.

It's just you. I thought she was a very professional witness.

18 posted on 06/25/2013 7:52:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: TChad

O’Mara is kicking ass.


19 posted on 06/25/2013 7:52:28 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: jiggyboy

Cutting to the chase here, I can see right now that the prosecution’s only hope and, in fact, entire case, is going to be made in the closing arguments.

And it will come down to this, “If you don’t convict, the streets will explode and it will be your fault.”

I do not know how they will get that message across, but that’s going to be it. Guaranteed.


20 posted on 06/25/2013 7:53:41 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: jiggyboy

The prosecution are idiots for bringing in the previous 45 times Rodriguez phoned in a suspicious character WITHOUT anything ever happening. What makes this time different? This makes it look like it has more to do with Trayvon than George.


21 posted on 06/25/2013 7:53:50 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I wouldn’t be so sure. The defense is easily winning on facts, but that’s not what this trial is about.

CNN earlier was going on and on about the emooooooooootional impact of the prosecution’s case, and fearfully, I think that’s what the case will come down to.

The defense can win every single point of evidence and still lose. The jury consists of 6 women. Nine times of out of ten, they’ll fall down on the side of emotion over logic.


22 posted on 06/25/2013 7:57:27 PM PDT by WeatherGuy
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To: jiggyboy

excellent recap and post...thanks. The prosecution’s case is going down the toilet very quickly...


23 posted on 06/25/2013 7:57:32 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: jiggyboy

Listening to the cross-examination of Bahadoor by O’Mara.

Lots of silence and absolutely nothing to help prosecution.


24 posted on 06/25/2013 7:59:06 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: jiggyboy

I’m feeling good.

Hopefully another day or two of this will deflate a good number of the TM supporters.


25 posted on 06/25/2013 7:59:27 PM PDT by kanawa (FB...Save George Zimmerman from racial onslaught)
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To: WeatherGuy
CNN earlier was going on and on about the emooooooooootional impact of the prosecution’s case, and fearfully, I think that’s what the case will come down to.

The rest of the MSM's coverage today is also very biased.

26 posted on 06/25/2013 8:00:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: jiggyboy

Her response style was so obviously over-coached and unnaturally mechanical that I couldn’t even watch it all. Every response was the same: She would take somewhere between 1.5 and 2.0 seconds to drop her head to the microphone, always answer “Yes, that is correct”, pause another 0.5 seconds, look at the jury, and slowly back away from the microphone. That went on for an hour.
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Yes, that is correct.


27 posted on 06/25/2013 8:01:56 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: UCANSEE2

OK, I didn’t watch the video. Maybe she’s just bored, then.


28 posted on 06/25/2013 8:05:53 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: jiggyboy

OK, I didn’t watch the video, and I seem to be getting two different views: She was a very professional witness, or she was unnaturally mechanical. I must say, I find your view of it a bit more persuasive.

I can’t stand sitting for hours and watching TV, so I rely on the willingness of Freepers to sit through this stuff and report on it.


29 posted on 06/25/2013 8:09:12 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

So, when are they going to pop in the eyewitness who saw zim hit st. tray on the back of the head to render him unconcious then prop him up on top of him, flail his arms with muppet like sticks, then at his leisure shoot st. tray in the heart. Isn’t that what they would like us to believe?


30 posted on 06/25/2013 8:11:04 PM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: TChad
Au contraire...the witness for the prosecution this afternoon lied like the proverbial rug.

O'Mara played her like a violin, then dropped a grand piano on her devious little head.

Her couple hours of fame were over with and she departed the stand forever mired in ignomy.

Leni

31 posted on 06/25/2013 8:14:50 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: jiggyboy
Selene Bahadoor - she got PW3ND!

To me, this whole 2nd degree murder theory falls apart long before the shot was fired. Zimmerman was on the phone to the police, they knew who he was, and he was giving them a description of Martin. By what logic does the prosecution operate in thinking that Zimmerman was "stalking" Martin? Who calls the police while they are in the act of stalking someone? Good grief!

32 posted on 06/25/2013 8:16:50 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: MinuteGal

The witness for the prosecution got body slammed before the whole dammed world! And maybe this doesn’t count for much, but the jury is all female, and I suspect they had harsh private thoughts about her. She may have damaged the prosecution’s case beyond repair!


33 posted on 06/25/2013 8:19:23 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: jiggyboy

She was coached to answer the question as tersely as possible and to not volunteer any info. Her husband is a Sanford cop btw.


34 posted on 06/25/2013 8:19:28 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: tennmountainman

When O Mera was demolishing the last witness on cross, DelaRonda looked like he was sweating a tad.

Corey was recently elected but I suspect she packed her bags, we know she loaded up her pension but that is another story, and is ready to not run next time.


35 posted on 06/25/2013 8:22:21 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: jimsin

That’s what i hear- I hoep for george’s sake he tears the prosecution a new one and everyoen inviovled i nthis miscarriage of justice- hopefulyl he sues the woman who brought the false trumped up charges agaisnt him in the first palce, and causes her to lose her liscence to practice-

The worry I have though is that george ‘apparently’ lied abotu splaying martin’s arms out- not sure how Mark is goign to handle that one-

This trial has my guts in knots-


36 posted on 06/25/2013 8:27:05 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Cicero
Something about her facial expression. I’d say that she looks like a retard, if that weren’t so very politically incorrect.

There are some beautiful girls who are less smart than an average girl. Simple math tells us that there must be a corresponding number of homely girls who are smarter than average :-) Barring some serious genetic damage, the appearance and the intellect are unrelated; the probability of being both beautiful (pb) and smart (ps) is then pb × ps.

There is more to it than mere statistics. Good looking girls have an opportunity to work in glamorous fields - performing, presenting, acting, modeling, gold-digging, to name a few. You are not very likely to find them in the job of a crime scene tech who sometimes has to comb an acre of land with a magnifying glass, in rain. We saw how they worked in Boston. Regular girls have to work for a living, and this job is better than many other (like at a poultry processing plant, for example, unless you are a professional chicken hater.)

37 posted on 06/25/2013 8:27:53 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: jimsin

Remember, Zimmerman’s father was a judge, magistrate judge I believe. He would certainly know how to find the best lawyer around. From all I’ve ever heard of O’Mara, and is becoming evident now, he did.


38 posted on 06/25/2013 8:28:46 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: jiggyboy

The comments section is VERY informative for anyone interested in the case viewed by several lawyers who chimed in to comment on today’s developments.

I enjoyed the article and the comments. Thanks for posting it!


39 posted on 06/25/2013 8:31:06 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Enterprise

[[Who calls the police while they are in the act of stalking someone? Good grief!]]

Excellent point- Just makes no sense at all that george would call to describe the boy he was supposedly just abotu to shoot out of spite/racism- but of course hte defense will likely coutner argue that george was feelign guilty abotu what he was ‘about to do’ and so called in advance to cofness in a roundabout way-

Thati s their only hope- to claim he was subconsciously preconfessing- Hopefulyl Omara really drives htis point home to hte jury that george woudl not possibly have called to describe the person he was abotu to shoot out of pure racism - then brign up the fact that george liked helpuing black kids, not harmign htem-


40 posted on 06/25/2013 8:32:02 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: jiggyboy
"witnesses ranged from signing George Zimmerman’s praises......" I must have missed the deaf mute witness.
41 posted on 06/25/2013 8:34:17 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: MinuteGal
Au contraire...

You're right. My post should have contained an "except for..."

42 posted on 06/25/2013 8:38:36 PM PDT by TChad
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To: WeatherGuy

[[The defense can win every single point of evidence and still lose.]]

so cant’; the prosecution, just like we saw in casey anothony case- it’s never over until the verdict is read (and let’s not forget the debacle of orbamercare and hte supreme court- all the experts watchign the case, studyign hte case, all were sure there was no way the court woudl uphold the blatantly unconstitutional law- all thep undits were sure too- then wham! roberts sold us out

I won’t feel good abotu htis case until zimmerman is declared not guilty-


43 posted on 06/25/2013 8:42:40 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: jiggyboy

Ah best read of the day.

This legal insurrection site is great


44 posted on 06/25/2013 8:42:55 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Ronin

[[And it will come down to this, “If you don’t convict, the streets will explode and it will be your fault.”]]

And sadly that is the whole truth of hte matter- if he’s foudn not guilty, he’s in serious trouble when htey release him - there is so much black hatred for him that he doesn’t stand a chance even if he’s foudn innocent- nothign short of a death sentance will placate the crowd I’m afraid


45 posted on 06/25/2013 8:46:02 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: jiggyboy

I learned a new phrase today from Selene Bahadoor while watching the trial . She kept saying she “took the stove off” and I had to “take the stove off”.

O’Mara tried to clarify but I’m still not sure what that means. She took something off the stove or she turned the stove off....new to me.


46 posted on 06/25/2013 8:47:15 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Cicero

I thought she answered every question in a clear and concise manner....for hours. She is trained to testify in court so no emotion. Just the facts.


47 posted on 06/25/2013 8:52:49 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Ronin

Sadly that might just be enough for a conviction. It takes special kind of principled person to look past the threats of violence, and politics of this case and even their family’s own safety and give a full acquittal.


48 posted on 06/25/2013 8:55:43 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Nope. The judge will dismiss before it goes to jury. Too much backlash building on the other side of the feral urban animals. Also, the judge is not perfect, but is fairly righteous aka cares about the law.

Riots will follow, but they’ll happen regardless.


49 posted on 06/25/2013 8:59:13 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

“Once Zimmerman is acquitted he should sue for malicious prosecution.”

And use his generous settlement to create a wholly new and different persona, place of residence, etc, and disappear.


50 posted on 06/25/2013 9:00:12 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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