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U.S. Supreme Court wipes out Proposition 8's gay marriage ban
MercuryNews.com ^ | June 26, 2013 | Howard Mintz

Posted on 06/26/2013 7:41:40 AM PDT by Deo volente

The U.S. Supreme Court today paved the way for same-sex couples to marry soon in California, effectively leaving intact a lower-court ruling that struck down the state's voter-approved ban on gay marriage.

In a ruling that assures further legal battles, the high court found that backers of Proposition 8 did not have the legal right to defend the voter-approved gay marriage ban in place of the governor and attorney general, who have refused to press appeals of a federal judge's 2010 ruling finding the law unconstitutional.

The Supreme Court ruling, which found it had no legal authority to decide the merits of a challenge to Proposition 8, sends the case back to that original decision -- and the only question now is how quickly same-sex couples can marry and whether that ruling will have immediate statewide effect.

The 5-4 ruling was written by Chief Justice John Roberts.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: activistcourt; californication; cultureofcorruption; doma; homosexualagenda; judicialactivism; judicialtyranny; maninblackdresses; noaccountability; obamanation; prop8; proposition8; ruling; scotus; sexpositiveagenda
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To: Neoliberalnot

No wonder so many people find it a fool’s errand to take the time to vote.


Well, we tried the ballot box. And the soap box. Now the jury box, if I can stretch it. There’s only one box left, and although the price has gone up, such boxes are still scatteringly available.


181 posted on 06/26/2013 9:59:18 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Deo volente

Roberts is turning into another Souter disaster


182 posted on 06/26/2013 9:59:47 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: fwdude

The CA AG or Governor should not have veto power over the people’s vote, and that is basically what they did.


It’s exactly what they did.


183 posted on 06/26/2013 10:00:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: OneWingedShark
The point was we are screwed either way (And never said voting repubs was an answer because they are not). Only a successful violent revolution would suffice (Low odds because the Libertarians are too stoned or on an wicked acid trip in order to shoot straight).

What I don't like is expanding the recognition further, because marriage is only between a female and male (Root and natural). Libertarians just allowed the Federal government to define illogical precepts. I thought Libertarians were all for logic and reason, guess not when the feds have perverted expanding to do.
184 posted on 06/26/2013 10:00:27 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Rusty0604

. Society recognized it as a marriage, and the gov’t didn’t have any business in it.


“Society”??? That also includes legal recognition. IOW “governemnt” of some sort or another. You liberaltarians make me want to puke. You are essentially promoting fag “marriage” in the guise of mincing weasel words.


185 posted on 06/26/2013 10:01:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: headstamp 2

Why? Because he voted to keep DOMA intact? Curious logic.


186 posted on 06/26/2013 10:01:54 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: xzins; massmike

In the one case, supposedly they are all about the states getting to decide for themselves. California decided. But, now they’re saying that California can’t decide for itself if it’s power elite don’t agree to defend their decision. So, it isn’t really about states rights. It’s about using whatever justification is necessary to get to the desired result.

Marlowe is right. This has become demonic.

Revolution is coming.


Xzins, I agree with you 100%.


187 posted on 06/26/2013 10:03:32 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Orangedog; rollo tomasi

What is crystal clear is that you are either so brain damaged that you have no ability to think rationally, or you are being disingenuous and deceitful and supporting perversion. One of the two.


188 posted on 06/26/2013 10:05:08 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: rollo tomasi

Oh, I see...you just want uncle fedgov to keep handing you all those benefits at my expense and you’re just mad that the homosexuals are in on your gravy train now.


189 posted on 06/26/2013 10:06:26 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Deo volente
The 5-4 ruling was written by Chief Justice John Roberts.

That's cause John Roberts is a reprobate faggot. He's just standing up for, AND defending "his" people. Just like 0dumb0 & Holder defend "their" people.

John Roberts will roast for eternity in Hell, in agony & torment, with his own demonic court rulings ringing is his ears.

God is not mocked. Whatsoever a man (or woman, or homo / lesbian faggot) sows, that shall they also reap.

190 posted on 06/26/2013 10:07:52 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: little jeremiah
"Active prayer"

Good advice. Lately I've felt distant from God, and I haven't been praying as much as usual. I believe it's because I haven't dealt with the anger (and yes, hate) that's in my heart for the destroyers of this nation. I need to take care of that, and get back on my knees.

191 posted on 06/26/2013 10:08:37 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: rcrngroup

You do realize that, in the 5-4 ruling you cite, Scalia joined him. I guess Scalia is becoming one of those reprobate faggots, too. Imagine that.


192 posted on 06/26/2013 10:09:55 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Orangedog
No, I want SS gone, Medicare/Medicaid gone, the 16th Amend gone, Welfare gone, targeted tax cuts gone, and any other Federal Entitlement gone. If that stuff is staying (Which reality dictates those programs/laws are, witness the electorate LOL), I want the feds to at least maintain a logical awareness in the face of a perverted generation saying marriage is not the natural definition when those other laws were established.

What you call for is that perverted expansion by default yet you deny that for some reason.

Reality is being debated here, not some Constitutional fantasy where originality is long passed dead.

Give me some assurances that all Federal goodies are gone before you spout on with a useless thesis on why the feds should not be in the marriage business. That is not reality, reality is that you are favoring marriage expansion by the Feds (Exact opposite of what you call for). Where was the drawback of the feds recognition of marriage in today's ruling?
193 posted on 06/26/2013 10:19:18 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: little jeremiah

I argue that marriage is a religious institution and the gov’t doesn’t have any business telling everyone that they have to accept it because most religions don’t believe in it.
Like it or not society formed common law. What was commonly accepted for most of history was that marriage was a private contract between a man and a woman and usually (in most cultures including ours)God.
So, no, I don’t think the gov’t has any business forcing christians or anyone else to recognize something that we don’t believe in. A legal recognition opens doors for demanding it be taught in schools, etc.
I’m not promoting anything except that the gov’t should stay out of private lives. Pick your fights more wisely.


194 posted on 06/26/2013 10:20:51 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rokurota

The argument that Scalia ‘caved’ is a terrible argument. Scalia had a scathing dissent which proves this not to be the case.


195 posted on 06/26/2013 10:21:55 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I never stated Scalia caved. There are many on here who seem to think Roberts caved. I simply stated the fact that Roberts voted the same as Scalia. So how did Roberts cave on this issue?


196 posted on 06/26/2013 10:24:14 AM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Rokurota

Never said he did, It’s not me you’re arguing with...


197 posted on 06/26/2013 10:26:20 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Rusty0604

Part of the Common Law (otherwise know as the English Common Law), states that marriage is between one man and one woman.

Along with habeaus corpus, trial by jury, etc are all components of English Common Law.


198 posted on 06/26/2013 10:27:35 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: rollo tomasi

Marriage is one of the three pillars of the common law. Removing a pillar isn’t going to get you where you want to go.

If you want smaller government, then the government needs to assert their authority in the areas in which they are permitted.

As is, the government will simply do whatever they feel like, which is a formula for unmitigated expansion. Hobbling the state from exercising their legitimate duties simply opens things right up for them to exercise illegitimate duties.

Arguing the state should not be involved in marriage really is no difference in arguing that the state should not be involved in immigration, etc.


199 posted on 06/26/2013 10:30:26 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: little jeremiah

I’m going for Perversion. They know damn well they are cutting us off at the knees.


200 posted on 06/26/2013 10:31:41 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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