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Mexico breaks silence on US immigration bill: 'Walls aren't the solution'
Yahoo News ^ | June 26,2013 | Lauren Villagran | Christian Science Monitor

Posted on 06/26/2013 12:41:37 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

Mexico broke its silence on the United States immigration reform debate this week, declaring that “walls aren’t the solution.”

US lawmakers are considering extending the border fence as part of the added security measures that would accompany plans to provide legal status to more than 11 million immigrants, the majority of them Mexican.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; mexico; wall
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So much for that border fence..Obama's handlers have spoken
1 posted on 06/26/2013 12:41:37 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Don’t tell me, let me guess. Love is “the solution”. Did I win?


2 posted on 06/26/2013 12:43:55 PM PDT by albie
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To: moonshinner_09

Good chance for Rubio and Flake to say they are withdrawing their support for this bill because Mexico is objecting to a key provision. . . . if they had any common sense.


3 posted on 06/26/2013 12:44:03 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Exactly right. Billing the Mexican government for each one of their freeloaders they send here is the solution. Not allowing Mexican Nationals in this country to send our money “back home” to Mexico is another solution.


4 posted on 06/26/2013 12:44:13 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Osama tried and failed. Obama got it done.)
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To: moonshinner_09

If they say they aren’t the solution then they are. Along with armed drones patrolling the border.


5 posted on 06/26/2013 12:44:38 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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To: albie

Guess Mexico does not secure its borders.


6 posted on 06/26/2013 12:45:01 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: moonshinner_09
'Walls aren't the solution'

How about ramps?

7 posted on 06/26/2013 12:45:12 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: moonshinner_09

They’re right.

Explosives are the solution.

Shove it, Mexico...and you might try actually doing something for your people rather than forcing them out of their own country.


8 posted on 06/26/2013 12:45:39 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Walls aren’t the solution. Criminalizing illegal immigration is.


9 posted on 06/26/2013 12:46:11 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: moonshinner_09

>>Mexico breaks silence on US immigration bill: ‘Walls aren’t the solution’<<

I agree. We also need minefields, guard towers, mounted guns, German Shepards, attack helicopters, and really rude baristas from Starbuck’s to deter illegal immigrants at the border.


10 posted on 06/26/2013 12:47:06 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I think we should just copy Mexico’s immigration laws and tell them to sit the F down, shut the F up and have a taco.


11 posted on 06/26/2013 12:47:15 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Walls aren’t the solution along the Rio Grande. Piranhas are.


12 posted on 06/26/2013 12:48:04 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I say adopt the immigration laws that the Mexicans enforce on their southern border. Very onerous....but they expect ours are supposed to be more “human”. I guess they’re addicted to all that money flowing back down there.


13 posted on 06/26/2013 12:48:22 PM PDT by Claytonbridge
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To: moonshinner_09

“Kumbaya” from the folks that have some of the scariest prisons in the World.


14 posted on 06/26/2013 12:48:34 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: moonshinner_09
Let’s simply duplicate Mexican southern border policy.
15 posted on 06/26/2013 12:49:24 PM PDT by JParris
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To: Jim Robinson

Good point. Their southern border is sealed and illegals entering Mexico from farther south are treated for what they are. Criminals. But that’s not for Mexicans entering the USA.


16 posted on 06/26/2013 12:50:34 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Walls were certainly the solution for the Chinese against the Mongols (Great Wall of China) and for the Dutch against the Indians (Wall Street) and for the Israelis against the Palestinians (Sharon’s Wall) and the recent fence along the Golan Heights, and Fort Knox, and the White House, and the Kennedy Compound.

I am very unsuccessful when attempting to walk from one room to another without using the door, because a physical barrier is in my way.

Walls are a solution.


17 posted on 06/26/2013 12:50:49 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t care what Mehico thinks. I take issue with our own people. Not just 10 minutes ago I was talking to a co-worker who said we are all immigrants and she does not begrudge someone coming here to be better. When I told her the problem is they don’t want to be better in an American sense just get freebies and if you give them amnesty you spit in the face of every legal immigrant that came before them. She answered (with a blank face) it is not our place to deny them a chance to be better, we all came from somewhere else. These moronic people answer in circular logic so they cannot be taught.

See the problem? Some of our own people don’t get it.


18 posted on 06/26/2013 12:51:09 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: moonshinner_09

Flash back 2010...Mexico, which often criticizes the American government for putting up barriers which restrict the flow of illegal immigrants across the U.S. - Mexico border is building a fence of its own along its southern border with Guatemala.

It has been reported that the head of the Mexican Superintendency of Tax Administration, Raul Diaz, confirmed that the Mexican government is building a wall along the Mexican - Guatemalan border. Diaz stated the official reason for building the border wall is to stop illegal drugs from coming into Mexico, but Diaz did admit that it could also prevent the free passage of illegal immigrants.

The hypocrisy of Mexico’s actions has not been lost on American politicians. Last week, Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX) said on the house floor:

Mr. POE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, in spite of objections to the contrary, a fence is still being built along the southern border. Illegals objected to this but the President is resilient. He is standing firm on his commitment to build the fence to keep illegals out.

You see, over 500,000 illegals cross the border every year into Mexico, and the fence is being built at the southern end of Mexico to keep people like Guatemalans out. It’s the Mexican southern border that they’re protecting.

You know, Calderon demands that the United States not build a fence. He arrogantly demands the Arizona law not be enforced, but when Mexico has problems with illegals coming to “take jobs that Mexicans won’t do,” Calderon says he’s building a fence on his southern border, whether illegals like it or not.

Every country has the right to defend its border. We should stop listening to anything President Calderon says and do what’s right for our country.

Anti-illegal immigration, pro-American worker leaders also had something to say regarding the Mexico-Guatemala Fence: “While the hypocrisy of the Mexican government is offensive,” said NumbersUSA President Roy Beck, “Americans can cheer the Mexican fence which should greatly reduce the number of non-Mexicans illegally crossing the U.S. southern border.”

Click here to read more about this development.
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/october-6-2010/mexico-build-southern-border-fence.html


19 posted on 06/26/2013 12:51:58 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

A thick,high,impenetrable heavily armed wall (armed on *both* sides) will greatly benefit both nations.We benefit from preventing the entry of semi literate Mexican,Guatemalan,Salvadoran (etc) parasites...and preventing drugs from entering.Mexico benefits from preventing illegal guns (illegal under Mexican law) and illegal money from entering Mexico.


20 posted on 06/26/2013 12:53:06 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t give a crap about what Mexico has to say.Our country needs to defend its citizens against an invasion sponsored by that government.

If Mexico cared so much for its people they wouldn’t be coming here and stealing from US.

Congress,Build the damned fence and reinforce it with an effective I.D. System to prevent them from working here.Also stop them from sucking off of our Social benefit systems.They’re going broke.


21 posted on 06/26/2013 12:55:56 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: moonshinner_09

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22 posted on 06/26/2013 12:56:37 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: moonshinner_09

Great El Mexico...now loosen your own immigration laws and southern border, and we won’t call you the hypocrite that you are any more.


23 posted on 06/26/2013 12:57:01 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: albie

You win.. the pony that craps skittles and the 24/7 rainbow!


24 posted on 06/26/2013 12:57:02 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: moonshinner_09

Mexico doesn’t like the idea of a wall.

What does that tell you?


25 posted on 06/26/2013 12:58:08 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: moonshinner_09
'Walls aren't the solution'

Machinegun nests are.

26 posted on 06/26/2013 12:59:06 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Resolute Conservative
...we all came from somewhere else.

Where did she get that idiotic idea? A 20 second sound bite from Ken and Barbie on the Evening "News"? I was born here. I did not come from "somewhere else". My father, my grandfather, my great grandfather, his father and his father's father were all born here in North America.

27 posted on 06/26/2013 1:00:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Osama tried and failed. Obama got it done.)
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'Walls aren't the solution'

No they aren't, but I bet minefields would work! ;-)
28 posted on 06/26/2013 1:02:31 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: moonshinner_09

I need some help to understand this.
The immigration bill provides some kind of path to citizenship (I admit I have not read the bill).
Are these illegal alien squatters already citizens of some other country? They already have citizenship, right?
When they get USA citizenship, do they have to somehow renounce their original homeland? Do they automatically get dual-citizenship? Will they be able to freely cross the border (in the case of Mexico as an example) and vote in both countries? Pay taxes to both? Receive benefits from both?
What if they don’t want USA citizenship? Do they just pretend to not “learn English” and continue to receive benefits?
I am so confused.


29 posted on 06/26/2013 1:02:39 PM PDT by Zuse
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Her stance is all our ancestors were immigrants. She is a believer in the common African lineage, even though she says she is a devout Christian (which I find duplicitous), so we all come from there.


30 posted on 06/26/2013 1:04:08 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Fixing the corrupt Mexican government is the solution.


31 posted on 06/26/2013 1:04:28 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: moonshinner_09

“walls aren’t the solution?”

Keeping illegals out is the problem...the wall is the solution...


32 posted on 06/26/2013 1:04:41 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: albie
'Don’t tell me, let me guess. Love is “the solution”. Did I win?' BWHAAAHAA YOU ARE THE WINNER AB....FIRST PRIZE CHICKEN DINER CONGRATULATIONS...YOU'D GET A TACO BUT WE ONLY SELL CHICKEN...


33 posted on 06/26/2013 1:05:34 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: moonshinner_09

50% remittance tax.

For child and puppy and Jesus Green Safety.


34 posted on 06/26/2013 1:07:05 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Claytonbridge

Find it strange when the excuse is being given that while the government knows whats going on in 300 million citizens lives but because the illegals are not citizens and in “the shadows” according to Florida’s Senator Rubio the US doesn’t know who they are or where they’re comming from so we must make them citizens..

THE QUESTION IS SENATORS AND CONGRESS MEMBERS ...WHY ARE YOU SO SET ON IMPORTING LOW WAGE LABORERS MAINLY FROM ONE COUNTRY WHICH TAKE UP JOBS OUR YOUTH COULD BE PERFORMING AND HURTING THE BLACK AMERICAN JOB MARKET ?

FR’s ; are urged to visit their respective Congressional Representatives and let them know their feelings

WHEN IT COMES TO AMNESTY

THIS IS THE MEXICAN PART NO ONE DARES MENTION

If you agree with the above and the following please don’t let it lay here in FR-land. Pass it on to to your favorite talk show host and to your US legislators. PUSH THE HASTERT RULE.

ONE NATIONALITY AMNESTY SKEWS QUOTAS. HURTS OTHERS FROM SOUTH AMERICA, AND SKILLED LABOR QUOTAS FROM OTHER NATIONS ...WORSE YET OFFERING AMNESTY FOR NATIONALS FROM A COUNTRY THAT HAS CLAIMS ON OUR NATIONAL TERRITORY THAT COULD AND HAS TURNED INTO PROBLEMS FOR BORDER STATES CLAIMED BY MEXICO .

In that May 3rd speech Obama gave before the Mexican Anthropological Museum in which he blamed America for the violence in Mexico I believe he went even futhur. There’s a inference but never referenced by name to the Gasden purchase and border settlements US made with Mexico where Obama hinted he seems to side with the Mexican claims. Would those in attendence share that view is a question that should be asked, because I believe they would,.he does.

SOLVING THE ‘LATINO” PROBLEM A MYTH HISPANIC IS NOT A RACE BUT A POLITICAL LINGUISTIC CONTRIVANCE ...don’t fall into the hyphenated Americans trap created by the hyphenated political party ...The DEMO-COMS

The Mexicans have been getting most favorable treatment above the rest of our neighbors both north and south. They’re permitted to cross our borders and enter illegally and are allowed access to rights of citizenship (with the exception of voting which if the democrat party regains control over the House will happen) other nationals entering this country don’t get.. Worse yet the Obama government has been working hand in glove with Mexican movements such as LaRaza supporting the Mexican claims which are also supporting “Amnesty”.

Also by allowing Mexicans to do this any quota ration for immigration from other south and central American countrys are taken up by Mexicans while that country is laying claim to a large chunk of our sovereign territory is a recipe for later serious problems which are happening now.

ARE MEXICAN ILLEGALS SQUATTERS PERPETUATING THE MEXICAN CLAIMS ?

We are already seeing the result of this in certain areas claimed by the Mexicans. Their national flag (standard) gets displayed over ours. Where there is a controlling number of Mexican nationals (illegals). It’s displayed over certain institutions particularly schools accompanied by riots and disturbances. Blacks are threatend by Mexicans in certain sections of citys in those areas. We’re courting trouble by not placing a value on our sovereignty and our citizenship.

MOST COINS OF THE REALM HAVE TWO FACES WHAT ABOUT HOW ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS LIVING IN MEXICO BEING TREATED ?

Worse yet if a US citizen goes into Mexico never mind illegaly but legally. They’ll get 2nd class treatment. Land ownership in title is prohibited period. And there are a slew of regulations they must comply with. Which doesn’t apply to a citizen of Mexico

THE SOLUTION ASSERT OUR SOVEREIGNTY AND TALK RECIPROCITY .

By not insisting on reciprocity particularly on those who have entered this country illegally we’re offering no incentive for assimilation and we’re not easing the burden for our fellow citizens who for what ever reason decided to live in Mexico.

ENOUGH OF THE ONE WORLD SOCIALISM ...BRING BACK SOVEREIGNTY AND SANITY TO OUR COUNTRY .....BRING BACK BELIEF IN GOD ...THIS GOVERNMENT OUT OUR FACE..... OUR RELIGIONS..... AND OUR BEDROOMS..


35 posted on 06/26/2013 1:07:27 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Don’t the effin’ Mexicans know: “Fences make good neighbors?”

Personally, I think minefields and concertina wire obstacles make even better neighbors, but most folks think that goes too far...


36 posted on 06/26/2013 1:09:19 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: All

then tear down your southern walls Mexico


37 posted on 06/26/2013 1:11:53 PM PDT by ak267 (THORIUM....ENERGY OF THE FUTURE!!!!)
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To: moonshinner_09

38 posted on 06/26/2013 1:12:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
' Billing the Mexican government for each one of their freeloaders they send here is the solution. Not allowing Mexican Nationals in this country to send our money “back home” to Mexico is another solution.'

BY god FWF YER on to something here..it does seem just and all but aint you afraid abein' labeled 'one harsh GRINGO' at all?

AN ANOTHER THING THE MEXICAN GOMBERMENT HIGHER UPS AINT GONNA LIKE IT, SENOR


39 posted on 06/26/2013 1:13:27 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: moonshinner_09

“walls aren’t the solution.”

A free-fire above and below ground nuclear proving ground is.


40 posted on 06/26/2013 1:15:31 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: GenXteacher

Actually I think a moat filled with sharks with frickin’ lasers on their heads is the answer.


41 posted on 06/26/2013 1:16:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The sharks might get full. Radiation lasts much longer....


42 posted on 06/26/2013 1:17:32 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: dfwgator

Mexican soldiers with auto weapons should do the trick or whatever they do on their southern border.


43 posted on 06/26/2013 1:17:42 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: moonshinner_09

Mexico breaks silence? When did they ever stop telling the U.S. what laws we should have? I heard their previous p.o.s. president say that the borders of Mexico extend to wherever there are Mexican people. The Mexican congress gave him a standing ovation for saying that. Unf*%$#@g believable!


44 posted on 06/26/2013 1:19:03 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: moonshinner_09

The solution sure isn’t amnesty for millions of Mexican citizens here illegally. Bring pressure on Mexico to reform their incredibly corrupt (even more corrupt than ours) political system.


45 posted on 06/26/2013 1:20:25 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Walls aren't the complete solution, but with them and strong enough punishment for the illegal act the problem fixes itself
46 posted on 06/26/2013 1:27:12 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Vigilanteman

i agree. minefields covered with interlacing machinegun arcs of fire and supported with HE and WP are a solution. think Kursk.


47 posted on 06/26/2013 1:30:31 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government shoud fear us.)
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To: Vigilanteman
'Good chance for Rubio and Flake to say they are withdrawing their support for this bill because Mexico is objecting to a key provision. . . . if they had any common sense.'

BRILLIANT VM the perfect OUT...

'WELL if this is your attitude José Antonio ya ingrate, ya. All bets are off, REAL AMERICANS ARE INSULTED and as senatorial representatives of all REAL AMERICANS the undersigned.... SENS FLAKE AND RUBIO.... hereby don't mind tellin you.

1. The fence IS agoin' up. and

2. Yer folks are acomin' back.

Mejor de las suertes EN EL FUTURO.... Amigo, Marco y Jeff
48 posted on 06/26/2013 1:32:47 PM PDT by jimsin
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To: moonshinner_09
"Mexico breaks silence on US immigration bill: 'Walls aren't the solution'...."

.... Yup ..... Allowing everybody south of the border into the United States with minimal repercussions so that they can work and send 100's of billions of dollars back to Mexico every year is OBVIOUSLY the only logical solution to the Immigration debate. I don't understand why Americans just don't understand and see this wise logical answer to all of our problems.

Ay Carumba.... Americanos be such stoopid loco gringos.

49 posted on 06/26/2013 1:34:00 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: moonshinner_09

Mexico has been promoting the illegal exodus of its citizens to the US for years. They should be punished with trade bans and restrictions but instead we put in incentives to promote US companies to do business down there. The Mexican government even prints pamphlets, maps and directions on how to get into the US.


50 posted on 06/26/2013 1:34:50 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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