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To be Clear About Mark Zuckerberg’s Americans for a Conservative Direction
RedState.com ^ | April 24th, 2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 06/26/2013 1:10:19 PM PDT by TexasCajun

I just want to be clear about about the new front group for the Gang of Eight’s immigration proposal on the right, Americans for a Conservative Direction.

The group, funded by Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, is perfectly entitled to set up this group. A good bit of the center-right coalition supports the issue.

That’s not my problem

My problem is that this is just another example of Republican consultants seemingly bleeding people dry for crappy work product.

They call themselves Americans for a Conservative Direction, but one of their first ads is a poorly produced ad supporting Lindsey Graham, who is not exactly a stalwart of the conservative movement these days.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; facebutt; graham; immigration; mccain; rinoads; rubio; shamnesty; zuckerberg
I'm not too sure about Erik Erikson these days, but he's on target here:

Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook) - Americans For Conservative Directions!

I'm hearing Zuckerberg's Pro-Amnesty radio ads all day today.

Check out the so-called Conservatives he's enlisted:

Americans for a Conservative Direction.

1 posted on 06/26/2013 1:10:19 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

I thought Zuckerberg was a big commie lib, Obama foot licker. I knew their was something fishy about these damn ads that are wearing out my radio.


2 posted on 06/26/2013 1:13:28 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Osama tried and failed. Obama got it done.)
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To: TexasCajun

If there is any truth in the Movie “Social Network”, Zuckerberg should be one of the last people anyone trusts.


3 posted on 06/26/2013 1:14:03 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: TexasCajun

Zuckerberg wants new low paid highly skilled immigrants.


4 posted on 06/26/2013 1:14:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: TexasCajun
Lindsey Graham, who is not exactly a stalwart of the conservative movement these days

Understatement of the year...

5 posted on 06/26/2013 1:15:00 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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How about “Americans for Progressivism” that evangelizes progress for nascent life, progress for energy, progress for capitalism, progress for gun rights, progress for liberty.


6 posted on 06/26/2013 1:16:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

he is what you thought he was


7 posted on 06/26/2013 1:16:30 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TexasCajun

Zuckerberg is in this for 10,000 more H1B employees he can grind into the ground for minimal wages. Nothing more.


8 posted on 06/26/2013 1:16:43 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TexasCajun

Zuckerberg a conservative? I hope nobody falls for that. He is reputed to have done massive work to re-elect The 0ne, mainly by using Facebook data to fuel Obama’s “track everybody” database and run FB targeted advertising.

Although looking at Facebook’s political PAC spending they gave a little more to R than to D. Mark’s own contributions are to the PAC.


9 posted on 06/26/2013 1:17:47 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Tried and true liberal tactic, use Conservative sounding names to promote their liberal agenda.

Marco Rubio's Amnesty, this time.

10 posted on 06/26/2013 1:19:20 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

From the website:

EMPLOYEE VERIFICATION

Every employer should be required to use a basic e-verify system which identifies the bad actors that want to game the system, while helping thousands of workers who are unemployed today. E-Verify and other work-site enforcement activities will help our economy by opening up jobs, increasing wages and reducing job competition by reducing an illegal workforce.

End De Facto Amnesty
Right now we have a system of de facto amnesty in this country. Under our current broken immigration system, millions who immigrated here illegally stand in the shadows but still enjoy many of the benefits of living in the United States. This not only presents serious obstacles to law enforcement but it’s unfair to the millions of law-abiding individuals who have come to this country legally. We need to fix our broken system and mandate that those who are living in this country illegally go to the back of the line, learn English, pay a fine and undergo a thorough background check to ensure that they have not broken our laws. By putting in place these rigorous requirements, and also mandating that those here illegally do not have access to welfare and other government benefits, we will end de facto amnesty once and for all and uphold the rule of law.
EMPLOYEE VERIFICATION

Every employer should be required to use a basic e-verify system which identifies the bad actors that want to game the system, while helping thousands of workers who are unemployed today. E-Verify and other work-site enforcement activities will help our economy by opening up jobs, increasing wages and reducing job competition by reducing an illegal workforce.
Helping the American Economy

Creating new jobs for Americans and ensuring America’s economic preeminence in an increasingly competitive global economy are two vital efforts. Immigration reform has the ability to accomplish both of these goals. Under our current, broken immigration system, we too often see foreign students forced to leave the United States after being educated in the best American universities. Instead of using their education to create innovative companies and grow new jobs here at home, they are doing this overseas. Immigration reform ensures that the best global talent and future entrepreneurs and job creators are able to stay in this country.


11 posted on 06/26/2013 1:22:10 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Buckeye McFrog; All

” Zuckerberg is in this for 10,000 more H1B employees he can grind into the ground for minimal wages. Nothing more.”

BINGO

Another billionaire whore, selling out the country that helped him become rich.


12 posted on 06/26/2013 1:22:23 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: TexasCajun

These people are traitors to America.

Time to contact our Senators and Congressmen about amnesty again which will only damage and weaken America further if not stopped. Here’s a sample letter:

Dear Honorable US Senator ...,

Sir, I am extremely upset with this latest sham amnesty immigration bill the US Senate is currently debating.

Words cannot express my anger at the utter foolishness of this bill. Rewarding criminal behavior encourages more criminal behavior. People cannot begin their careers in America by breaking the law. Further, it hurts minimum wage American workers by causing them to compete with millions of foreign workers. by I am dismayed at those in Congress who lack the understanding of this critical issue to our nation.

I along with most other Americans are in favor of legal immigration for those who are willing to learn our language, culture, and invest the time and money required to become a U.S. citizen - but not for those who willfully break on our laws, spit on our country, demand benefits, and are not willing to go through proper channels to become an American citizen.

What is the solution? It won’t be easy because we didn’t get into this situation overnight. I believe we need to do the following immediately:

1) Secure our borders
2) Enforce existing law
3) Not allow any amnesty provisions of any kind
4) Improve our visa system
5) Prosecute and fine those businesses which knowingly employ illegal workers
6) Give law enforcement officials the necessary resources and authority to combat illegal immigration
7) Deport illegal aliens violating the law after being fingerprinted, photographed, iris scanned, charged with a felony, and their information placed in a national database.
8) Send a bill for deportation/prison costs to the embassy of the illegal immigrant’s national origin.
9) 2nd time and thereafter repeat offenses by illegal aliens should be sent to work prison camps for a maximum of 6 months - building the southern fence/wall.
10) Seize and liquidate all assets from illegal aliens and use the proceeds for our military and local law enforcement.
11) Must not give illegal immigrants government welfare benefits of any kind, including Social Security
12) Designate English as our national language
13) Change the 14th Amendment regarding birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants
14) Mandatory proof of citizenship for voting
15) Mandatory proof of legal status for DL or ANY government issued ID or benefits card
16) Put pressure on the Mexican government and other nations to reduce illegal immigration to America.
17) Encourage only legal immigration and citizenship to for those wanting to become Americans.

These ENFORCED changes would strengthen America greatly.

Please consider voting against this terrible legislation should it come before the full House floor.

Sincerely and respectfully,


13 posted on 06/26/2013 1:22:47 PM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: DBrow
Check out the link in post #1.

Nothing but RINOs with Haley Barbour at the top of the list.

Followed by RNC, Bush, Romney, Ryan people.

14 posted on 06/26/2013 1:23:05 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: DBrow

Creating new jobs for Americans and ensuring America’s economic preeminence in an increasingly competitive global economy are two vital efforts. Immigration reform has the ability to accomplish both of these goals. Under our current, broken immigration system, we too often see foreign students forced to leave the United States after being educated in the best American universities. Instead of using their education to create innovative companies and grow new jobs here at home, they are doing this overseas. Immigration reform ensures that the best global talent and future entrepreneurs and job creators are able to stay in this country.


15 posted on 06/26/2013 1:24:33 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

In other words, “We’ll feel better about ourselves when there is a legal way for us to do what we’re going to do illegally anyway.”


16 posted on 06/26/2013 1:25:32 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

He is. He’s just a little more blatant, ham-fisted, or blase than most about revealing that both the Dems and GOPe are backed by liberals trying to move the country in a liberal direction.

That is, fake-Republican front groups are usually better disguised. (Although not too disguised—find any Bushie—Rove, Melman, etc., associated and you know you’ve got one.


17 posted on 06/26/2013 1:26:48 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: TexasCajun

Isn’t he a supporter of Carl Rove’s??


18 posted on 06/26/2013 1:29:00 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: DBrow
He is reputed to have done massive work to re-elect The 0ne,

I hope he isn't stupid enough to think Obummer can have a 3rd term. Or is he starting something sinister.

19 posted on 06/26/2013 1:29:21 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: ZULU
Mr. Rove has been silent on Marco Rubio's Amnesty.

But that doesn't mean he isn't working for it, which I suspect.

He's the one that tells us we need to court the Mexican voter.

20 posted on 06/26/2013 1:37:33 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun
Call congress.

Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

at least 3 ways to destroy the USA

1. amnesty to 30 million illegals and chain migration.

2. Amnesty forever to ANY foreigner in the 3rd world. all he has to say is he's seeking political asylum .there are 6 billion poor in the 3rd world . and this bill will allow any of the to come here , all they need is to get on a boat.
3. many more work visas for many occupations

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won't vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the House

21 posted on 06/26/2013 2:09:41 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Lions Gate
Michelle Bachman explained. ANY bill no matter if it promises all the border security you propose will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.

Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

at least 3 ways to destroy the USA

1. amnesty to 30 million illegals and chain migration.

2. Amnesty forever to ANY foreigner in the 3rd world. all he has to say is he's seeking political asylum .there are 6 billion poor in the 3rd world . and this bill will allow any of the to come here , all they need is to get on a boat.
3. many more work visas for many occupations

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won't vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the House

22 posted on 06/26/2013 2:13:06 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

“Michelle Bachman explained. ANY bill no matter if it promises all the border security you propose will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.
Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

at least 3 ways to destroy the USA

1. amnesty to 30 million illegals and chain migration.

2. Amnesty forever to ANY foreigner in the 3rd world. all he has to say is he’s seeking political asylum .there are 6 billion poor in the 3rd world . and this bill will allow any of the to come here , all they need is to get on a boat.
3. many more work visas for many occupations

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won’t vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the House”

I agree and thanks for your comments - I’m calling Boehner’s office now.


23 posted on 06/26/2013 2:19:53 PM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: Democrat_media

“Michelle Bachman explained. ANY bill no matter if it promises all the border security you propose will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.
Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

at least 3 ways to destroy the USA

1. amnesty to 30 million illegals and chain migration.

2. Amnesty forever to ANY foreigner in the 3rd world. all he has to say is he’s seeking political asylum .there are 6 billion poor in the 3rd world . and this bill will allow any of the to come here , all they need is to get on a boat.
3. many more work visas for many occupations

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won’t vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the House”

I agree and thanks for your comments - I’m calling Boehner’s office now.


24 posted on 06/26/2013 2:22:00 PM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Zuckerburg is the “face” of a government run social website.


25 posted on 06/26/2013 2:23:03 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Lions Gate

Thanks. if we have more people like you then we might save America .I’m going to call, email , twitter etc too. mainly boner and the House. But senators too. still a chance that they don’t get the 60 for cloture there IF we melt the phone lines


26 posted on 06/26/2013 2:29:16 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: ZULU
Rove likes Maro Rubio's Amnesty Bill

Appearing on FoxNews to defend the bill's security provisions, Rove singled out a Breitbart story which appeared Friday as "simply not true." Rove's criticism, however, was factually incorrect.

27 posted on 06/26/2013 2:32:48 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Democrat_media; sickoflibs
Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

It's true that there is a grave danger of House "comprehensive immigration" bills going into conference and coming out as amnesty bills.

However, sometimes not producing any bill at all is disastrous. Boehner, not wanting to be labelled as anti-woman, allowed a vote on VAWA and it passed as is.

If the House passes an enforcement only bill it would be difficult for RINOs to add path-to-citizenship in conference.

28 posted on 06/26/2013 3:15:07 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Michelle Bachman explained it. no bill must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty/let all foreigners in bill. So any House bill will be a trojan horse bill,ditto for any senate bill.

All democrats will vote for the Amnesty bill. so all they need to do is turn 10% of Republicans to get Amnesty . and they will get it if ANY bill comes out of the House( no matter if it's just a fence bill it WILL be merged with a Senate Amnesty bill. Bachman said this is the plan. this is why the zuckerberg ads keep playing to pass something anything.

29 posted on 06/26/2013 3:18:55 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media; sickoflibs

I voted for Bachmann in the 2012 primaries.

I used to make the same argument she is making, but now I have doubts.

If RINOs voted for a bill that was introduced in conference as enforcement only, but amnesty was added in conference, that would be considered an unforgivable betrayal by the House GOP, and those members would never be trusted. Plus, after the conference vote, it would have to be passed by the full House again. If they were going to go to that much trouble, why not juat vote for amnesty in the first place?

Boehner didn’t try to pass a more conservative VAWA, so then the House passed the Dem version.


30 posted on 06/26/2013 3:38:20 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Plus, after the conference vote, it would have to be passed by the full House again.

Yes by the full house but ALL democrats will vote to pass that Amnesty bill merged with the security bill.That is the plan Bachman said,. then all that democrats need to do is turn only 10% of Republicans in the House to vote for the merged bill and that is really easy to do. So NO bill must come out of the House .yes all conservatives will vote against it but if you think they can't find 10%? look at Ryan he is working on a lot of them will have much more than 10% . it's over if they pass any bill in the House

31 posted on 06/26/2013 3:42:46 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

I wish is were that simple.

That plan didn’t work for VAWA, and I will tell you why. Boehner is likely to feel pressure to vote on some immigration bill sooner or later. Review his announcements. If the House does not pass, say, enforcement only, what is stopping Boehner from letting them vote on the senate bill?

If the House GOP leadership was not so cowardly, I suppose Bachmann’s plan would work.

Either way carries some risk.


32 posted on 06/26/2013 4:07:43 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: TexasCajun
He, and his group FWD.us, also have a liberal version of that group http://www.councilforamericanjobgrowth.com/
33 posted on 06/26/2013 4:39:16 PM PDT by evilC
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To: TexasCajun

I figured it.


34 posted on 06/26/2013 6:04:11 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Democrat_media; S
RE :”If RINOs voted for a bill that was introduced in conference as enforcement only, but amnesty was added in conference, that would be considered an unforgivable betrayal by the House GOP, and those members would never be trusted. Plus, after the conference vote, it would have to be passed by the full House again. If they were going to go to that much trouble, why not juat vote for amnesty in the first place?
Boehner didn’t try to pass a more conservative VAWA, so then the House passed the Dem version.”

Exactly, Bachman doesn't explain why her ‘House should do nothing’ strategy didn't stop VAWA (with new gay and illegal protections) and the tax extension both Senate bills from reaching Obama’s desk.
Failed strategy.

Besides, the House should drag this out with lots of investigative hearings on the Senate bill and the special interests behind it, before writing a bill. Imagine if it was Senate Obama-care sent over.

35 posted on 06/26/2013 7:19:21 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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