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Obama administration pushes new public health research agenda on gun control
fox ^ | June 26, 2013 | George Russell

Posted on 06/27/2013 12:50:06 AM PDT by Red Steel

In the near future, Americans who own or want guns likely will be subject to rafts of new questions from social scientists, medical researchers and law enforcement officials intent to discover just what guns they own, why they own them and what they intend to use them for — not to mention where and how they keep them.

They will also likely have more researchers poring over such issues as whether childhood education programs against gun violence actually work; whether there actually is any relationship between violence in the media and in real life; and whether the safety plans that were drawn up by schools, colleges and communities in the wake of highly publicized mass shootings actually are effective.

Those and many other gun-related questions are the thrust of a new social science research agenda that the Obama administration hopes will keep the push for gun control alive for years to come.

The research agenda is intended to produce mammoth amounts of raw data on American gun owners, users and their circumstances, meaning that violence resulting from firearms use will be studied for “its causes, approaches to interventions that could prevent it, and strategies to minimize its health burden.”

This includes, for example, such things as “the potential health risks and benefits (e.g., suicide rates, personal protection) of having a firearm in the home under a variety of circumstances (including storage practices) and settings.”

The agenda, which aims to sidestep Second Amendment political and constitutional issues of gun ownership through its public health focus, was released earlier this month in a 124-page report titled, “Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearms Related Violence.” It was sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) with financial support from private foundations.

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1 posted on 06/27/2013 12:50:08 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Ah use OBAMACARE to take away people’s guns.


2 posted on 06/27/2013 12:53:08 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Red Steel
Nope, they will not stop attacking our Constitutional rights.
In fact the Dems are attacking All of the Constitution one angle at a time.

They are in a rush to get these agendas done before Obama leaves office. Hail Mary.

3 posted on 06/27/2013 12:55:10 AM PDT by MaxMax (I'f you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: Red Steel

And it will be the same kind of “research” the CDC did when the Toon was president. Pure Bovine Scat. You will be able to spread it in the garden.


4 posted on 06/27/2013 12:59:05 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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When the levee breaks, I hope it’s clean.


5 posted on 06/27/2013 1:00:16 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Red Steel

there is actually a lot of stuff on the CDC websites about violence of all sorts.

Obama is just pretending he is the first one to notice violence was a public health problem, but any doc who worked in the emergency rooms of the US inner cities know this has been a problem for at least 50 years. I saw my first murder the second day I was an intern...42 years ago...


6 posted on 06/27/2013 1:16:47 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Red Steel

How do they propose to do this “research”? Voluntary questionnaire or mandatory thing from Census Bureau?


7 posted on 06/27/2013 1:17:32 AM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Red Steel

Does anyone know if former Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders has developed the safer bullet yet? It would sure solve a lot of problems.


8 posted on 06/27/2013 1:26:53 AM PDT by Keli Kilohana (Editor, ZARR CHASM CHRONICAL [sic], Sore, WV)
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To: Red Steel

Yet another attempt by the tyrannical Obama administration to collect information and data on citizens, masked as a public health issue, so they can control the population if and when they get ready to. This information will be used for nefarious ends. We’ve seen too much of Obama’s true nature and agenda to think otherwise.


9 posted on 06/27/2013 2:04:36 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Red Steel
In the near future, Americans who own or want guns likely will be subject to rafts of new questions from social scientists, medical researchers and law enforcement officials intent to discover just what guns they own, why they own them and what they intend to use them for — not to mention where and how they keep them.

Registration? That was unexpected.

10 posted on 06/27/2013 3:03:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Red Steel

When asked, lie!

Are they going to come to your house?


11 posted on 06/27/2013 3:14:02 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend
When asked, lie!

Post of the month.

12 posted on 06/27/2013 3:24:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Lazamataz

Obama can use the same scientists the govt paid to write the global warming, now climate change, scheme. They are well seasoned and are less likely to get caught in their lies this time.


13 posted on 06/27/2013 4:00:37 AM PDT by paguch
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To: LadyDoc
"I saw my first murder the second day I was an intern...42 years ago..."

Cain-Abel?? Violence is a human problem. But this focus will simply be another attempt to find SOME successful propaganda tool to degrade/deny gun ownership.

14 posted on 06/27/2013 4:13:16 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: hattend
When asked, lie!

Are they going to come to your house?

You think they WON'T????

15 posted on 06/27/2013 4:23:39 AM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: Red Steel
In the near future, Americans who own or want guns likely will be subject to rafts of new questions from social scientists, medical researchers and law enforcement officials intent to discover just what guns they own, why they own them and what they intend to use them for — not to mention where and how they keep them.

My answer will be the same to every one of their questions.

"Kiss my ass!"

It's an American thing.

16 posted on 06/27/2013 4:38:35 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Osama tried and failed. Obama got it done.)
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To: Red Steel

I fail to see how this is any of their business.


17 posted on 06/27/2013 5:00:20 AM PDT by Steve1789 (I miss having a president who loves this country.)
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To: hattend

What the ‘H’ they lie about everything, AND turn around, and call the truth lies.


18 posted on 06/27/2013 5:03:35 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Red Steel

The availability of ammo is never going to improve. It seem each week there is a new assault on the 2a and people just keep hoarding in fear that they will lose their rights.


19 posted on 06/27/2013 5:06:06 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: Red Steel

This is how they won on gay marriage, w lots of government studies showing that junior is raised best by two mommies.


20 posted on 06/27/2013 5:15:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: snarkytart

Don’t worry, the ObamaCARE brain biopsy requirement
will waived for al Qaeda and upper level DNC members.

[How is America different from the USSR?
The slaves in America are sheep. ]


21 posted on 06/27/2013 5:21:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Jerrybob
You think they WON'T????

No, I don't think my doctor, asking if I have guns during a physical exam, will visit my house for a search.

Now, if it's some gov't jackboot...well, the end is nigh anyway.

22 posted on 06/27/2013 5:21:07 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Red Steel

They are taking baby steps. But make no mistake, the end is to confiscate every last gun.

However the good news is that lying is the new virtue in this country as we witness that on a daily basis from our very own government officials.


23 posted on 06/27/2013 5:31:13 AM PDT by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: Winstons Julia

IRS and NSA data?


24 posted on 06/27/2013 5:40:33 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Red Steel

I will refuse to answer any questions about guns. Screw them. My doctor wouldnt ask anyway so not really an issue for me personally.


25 posted on 06/27/2013 5:48:52 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: TurboZamboni
IRS and NSA data?

Yep. Which is possibly the real reason that they're mad at Snowden. He shed a little light on their scheme and they don't like that at all. Make no mistake about it - if he had talked to the media in the US, he'd be in solitary confinement or dead by now.

26 posted on 06/27/2013 5:51:10 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Pollster1
In the near future, Americans who own or want guns likely will be subject to rafts of new questions from social scientists, medical researchers and law enforcement officials intent to discover just what guns they own, why they own them and what they intend to use them for — not to mention where and how they keep them.

I intend to use them on a tyrannical government and to protect my family. Any more questions?

27 posted on 06/27/2013 5:53:56 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Winstons Julia

Doctors/Medical and Social Services...and maybe the IRS/NSA.

They are not going to study the good guys who lock up their guns, they will study the Obamaphone people as they apply for their benefits/food stamps/medical etc.

That is where the “stats” will come from and the new “rules” will be based on that info, not on the responsible gun owner.

But, I can see the IRS holding up your tax processing if you are a gun owner-unless you fill out the gun questionnaire.


28 posted on 06/27/2013 6:05:54 AM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: unixfox

Good answer.

This is the same methodology used by Hilter. We do not learn from history. It will be repeated. Hell, I’m watching it happen right now.


29 posted on 06/27/2013 6:08:44 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Red Steel

Obama arms narco-terrorists in Mexico and Islamonazis in Syria. He isn’t out to stop gun violence. His goal is to deny Americans their second amendment rights. Nothing else.


30 posted on 06/27/2013 6:13:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Red Steel
Didn't conservatives try desperately to warn Americans that Obamacare was not about affordable health care? IT IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL OVER THE MASSES, MORE BIG NANNY GOVERNMENT.

A reminder..............

Benjamin Franklin QUOTATION: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?” “A Republic, if you can keep it.”

It would appear that self governance is out the window. ENJOY IT AMERICA, YOU ELECTED THIS.
31 posted on 06/27/2013 6:47:46 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“Cain-Abel??”

Reminds me of what Bill Cosby said about them:

“Now you got two people on the entire earth, Cain and Abel, and everything is mystical and beautiful. Now Cain could have gone to Hawaii, but no, he kills Abel.”


32 posted on 06/27/2013 6:48:57 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Mr. President, can you hear a special prosecutor now?)
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To: Red Steel

http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2013/Priorities-for-Research-to-Reduce-the-Threat-of-Firearm-Related-Violence.aspx


33 posted on 06/27/2013 6:49:21 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Red Steel

Liberals fight the “long war”.

This is how they started the destruction of our institutions back in the 60’s.

Now it will start by further brain washing youth and society in general to where it is unacceptable to own a gun and there is something wrong with you if you do.

Liberals are insidious.


34 posted on 06/27/2013 6:53:48 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Well, well, well... Who here didn't see THIS coming.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

35 posted on 06/27/2013 6:58:50 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Red Steel

And they will be met with a very firm: “None of your damned business!”


36 posted on 06/27/2013 7:01:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Red Steel
As I, and many other veterans have posted, my doctor asked me if I owned any firearms. I said, "doc I love you, but it is none of your business." She put down "no."

If it happens again, I will say no outright.

5.56mm

37 posted on 06/27/2013 7:02:55 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MaxMax

I think they believe there is a good chance they will lose the Senate, too, next November.


38 posted on 06/27/2013 7:04:30 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
The availability of ammo is never going to improve. It seem each week there is a new assault on the 2a and people just keep hoarding in fear that they will lose their rights.

Try Gunbot. I've recently found some good, reasonably-priced ammo using that tool. Buy it cheap, stack it deep.

39 posted on 06/27/2013 7:07:01 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: snarkytart

>>Ah use OBAMACARE to take away people’s guns.<<

Yep and get ready, they will attempt to use the EPA and the Insurance industry to regulate as well.


40 posted on 06/27/2013 7:09:21 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Red Steel

I keep a howitzer in the back yard aimed at the I.R.S. building.

Any other stupid questions?


41 posted on 06/27/2013 7:11:23 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (If youÂ’re happy and you know it clank your chains!)
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To: Red Steel
Americans who own or want guns likely will be subject to rafts of new questions from social scientists, medical researchers and law enforcement officials intent to discover just what guns they own, why they own them and what they intend to use them for — not to mention where and how they keep them.

and the answer should ALWAYS be NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS

42 posted on 06/27/2013 7:16:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I think they believe there is a good chance they will lose the Senate, too, next November.

As always, the GOP-e will do everything in its power to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

43 posted on 06/27/2013 7:24:51 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: M Kehoe

Its also obvious that Obamao and his brown shirts have realized that the government has trained a whole lot of military personnel who love America to expertly handle and enjoy firearms -— who are coming home in big numbers. Since these people are a high threat to his tyrannical plans, don’t doubt for a minute that he won’t have them diagnosed with PTSD and require medications and therapy. Hence no gun ownership will be allowed for all these very capable patriots, i.e. our self defense against tyranny.


44 posted on 06/27/2013 7:27:46 AM PDT by BMCinSC
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To: hattend

Yes they will.

If you buy ammo, travel to a gun store or show, get a Cabelas catalog, the NSA will flag you and cross reference your data.


45 posted on 06/27/2013 7:37:27 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Red Steel
this government's assault on the Second Amendment will not stop until they totally disarm the people or the people takes back control of the US government. The election system is corrupted so it would be foolish to count on electing the right people to help restore the Constitution.
46 posted on 06/27/2013 7:37:51 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Thane_Banquo

Painfully true. The old guard Republicans don’t want to win, they just want to get invited to all the dinner parties.


47 posted on 06/27/2013 7:52:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
"The availability of ammo is never going to improve."

Wrong. The availability of guns has already dramatically improved. Retail stores and gun show tables are full of AR-15's and M4's at less than $1,000 apiece. Less than half of the asking prices of just a few months ago.

All types of centerfire ammo is also now available, albeit still at somewhat elevated prices as compared to a year ago.

Rimfire ammo is another story. Fearful folks have striped the shelves clean and wait in line to buy much more than they will ever use. It is very difficult to reason with such kooks, survivalists and wannabe revolutionaries. But in time they will hoard enough or run out of money and things will return to a new normal.

And don't blame the manufacturers. They have never produced more ammunition and are totally maxed out. Their analyst's advice against massive investment to satisfy a short term panic. There is also a long lead time to acquire and install new equipment in yet to be built production facilities.

We have met the enemy. It is those who have purchased unneeded and/or excessive stores of ammunition.

48 posted on 06/27/2013 8:04:08 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Red Steel; All

Lying to the government is a form a Patriotism if the government is out to deprive you of fundamental rights.

lie. Defy. Do not comply.


49 posted on 06/27/2013 8:25:39 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red Steel; Joe Brower; Winstons Julia; hattend

There is anecdotal evidence all over social media, about how health providers are even now making gun inquiries during routine medical visits.

Hattend is right: practice Taqiyyah and tell them “No”.


50 posted on 06/27/2013 8:25:44 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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