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Obama administration pushes new public health research agenda on gun control
fox ^ | June 26, 2013 | George Russell

Posted on 06/27/2013 12:50:06 AM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel
And in other news. Have a Happy Independence Day at your local park courtesy of your local government Nazis.
51 posted on 06/27/2013 8:45:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: MaxMax

Who said Obama is leaving office?


52 posted on 06/27/2013 8:56:58 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Red Steel

If this gets off the ground, it will have all the credibility that “climate research” enjoys. Those making a living from the research will find there is good reason to remove guns from everyone save the “authorities.”

Even if they have to prove their reasoning through the use of tree-ring evidence from Siberia.


53 posted on 06/27/2013 8:59:04 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: hattend
"When asked, lie!

Are they going to come to your house?"

Eventually, yes...they will. Lying will work for the time being, but understand...the statist dictators need you to be disarmed in order for their agenda to advance to its Orwellian end. All the dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodge techniques, and cute and clever ways of not giving them what they want will eventually result in them just coming and taking it...and/or you.

Lie all you want, but make no mistake...they want your (our) guns, and are going to come after them no matter what you (we) do. These partial steps they're taking are just cover, so they can say, "well, we tried" before they start kicking in doors and rounding us up.

It's (way past) time to draw a line, and make a stand.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

54 posted on 06/27/2013 9:51:32 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Red in Blue PA
"lie. Defy. Do not comply."

And when they eventually come to search your house/arrest you anyway, are you ready to do your real patriotic duty? Lying is a great temporary measure, but make no mistake...it's not going to stop their efforts to take your guns. The worst is going to happen.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

55 posted on 06/27/2013 9:57:12 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Red Steel

Same old, same old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry


56 posted on 06/27/2013 10:32:18 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: Buffalo Head

Good post. I disagree a bit in that I think the “Hoarders” are actually doing a public good. Ammo reserved for a true crisis is valuable, even more than ammo used today for recreation or training.


57 posted on 06/27/2013 11:19:04 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: Winstons Julia
How do they propose to do this “research”? Voluntary questionnaire or mandatory thing from Census Bureau?

Regardless, I intend to tell them it isn't any of their business.

Deflect, distract, dissuade, and just don't give them an answer they can construe as a lie. Be evasive, remember that appointment, get a group of friends together who will all call you in five minute intervals for an hour or two if they stop by --one text to get things rolling and do the same for each other. (Oops, sorry, I have to take this call!--then talk about the weather.). Just don't let them in. Make them stand in the hall or on the steps. Make getting anything approaching an answer out of you a real pain in the butt, and then don't tell them anything.

They don't NEED to know.

58 posted on 06/27/2013 2:03:12 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Jerrybob
Are they going to come to your house? You think they WON'T????

I fill a doorway pretty well. Not short of assault or a warrant, they won't.

59 posted on 06/27/2013 2:04:32 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: headstamp 2
This is how they started the destruction of our institutions back in the 60’s.

They have been at this for 100 years+.

60 posted on 06/27/2013 2:09:03 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: M Kehoe

I’ve told my doc and other medical professionals “no” before I even had any.


61 posted on 06/27/2013 2:10:59 PM PDT by matt04
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To: BMCinSC

I am sure there are plenty of “loaners” out there when the bell sounds.


62 posted on 06/27/2013 2:36:13 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: redgolum

They won’t find anything.


63 posted on 06/27/2013 2:36:43 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Buffalo Head

In your opinion how much is too much?


64 posted on 06/27/2013 2:38:02 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: wku man

By the time that starts happening I will be long gone and more than likely the armed conflict will have started.


65 posted on 06/27/2013 2:41:41 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: wku man

If they ever come into my home, they will be stepping over my dead body.


66 posted on 06/27/2013 3:59:49 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Any more than you can carry.

For general reference: 1. The FBI's average gun fight occurs at 7 feet distance. 2. The overwhelming majority of civilian gun fights are conducted with less than one gun full of ammunition. 3. Having enough ammo to allow "spraying and praying" is exceptionally poor tactics against a trained marksman.

67 posted on 06/27/2013 4:02:52 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Red Steel

Our guns are legion, and each of them is dedicated to defending life , liberty, property and the constitution from liberal fascists of the Obama movement.


68 posted on 06/27/2013 7:56:44 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Red in Blue PA; Resolute Conservative
Just making sure you know what's coming. I'm absolutely amazed, and dismayed, at how many people on "our" side are living in denial, thinking that somehow, if we can just hold out until the Obammunist is out of office, everything will go back to "normal". IF we ever get back to "normal" it's only going to be after a lot of pain, suffering, and bloodshed.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

69 posted on 06/27/2013 8:11:52 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: Red Steel

I had a complete physical checkup a month ago....and there was not a single question asked verbally or on any form about gun ownership. Not to say, it might be there in the future, but for now, it was never asked. I also did not answer any questions on race or religion or education, and there was no pushback or raising of eyebrows. I imagine there are many others who refuse to answer these type of questions. My insurance information, and name, address, age, prior medical history, that was the extent of the questionaire to which I responded.


70 posted on 06/27/2013 8:18:42 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Buffalo Head

I am not planning for a weekend of turmoil settled by a call for restraint and a campfire singing kumbaya. Not a night of unruly kids roaming the streets (basically like it is now in some cities), not an isolated encounter with one person trying to steal my wallet. I am planning for an extended period of unrest where service and goods are not available and there is no store to run down to and re-load. A time when the urban masses begin to evacuate their prisons in search of basic needs or just a need to pillage. A time where you are truly on your own and maybe in small groups. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.

I also see a time when more attempts to infringe on our right is mounted so I want to make sure I have enough to last me my lifetime and well into my children’s.

I have no intention of spraying and praying. I will avoid interaction when at all possible. I was a sniper in the military and LEO field and have taught all my children the same mindset. One thing people are overlooking is stealth. I also have an assortment of archery equipment, not for personnel (would if needed) but for game harvesting.

I’d rather have too much than not enough. There is no such thing as too much ammo. Those that think that have never been under fire.


71 posted on 06/28/2013 5:25:14 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: wku man

The tipping point was passed long ago. We could go back without conflict but that will take persistence and a great mass awakening, which I am starting to doubt will happen. Sadly, I think we are in for a rough road. Personally I don’t care I am at a point I can sacrifice and do what needs to be done. I cry for my kids and their kids, they are just starting out and will inherit not just this crappy state we are in but all the woes that are to come.


72 posted on 06/28/2013 5:28:43 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

In this new state, evidence or finding anything doesn’t matter.

All they have to find is you.


73 posted on 06/28/2013 5:34:29 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Possibly me neither unless they like swamps.


74 posted on 06/28/2013 5:42:56 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Red Steel

how about he pushes for research on how many people doctors and hospitals kill each year?


75 posted on 06/28/2013 6:07:11 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: M Kehoe

Hey, I took a cruise of our local Wally World (Lutz/LOL) and the shelves were still bare with 3 guys standing around very sad faced. My Doc’s probably won’t ask as I occasionally wear a NRA T-shirt.


76 posted on 06/28/2013 6:28:52 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: HotHunt

The sad thing is we haven’t seen an opposition party. Republicans got done to them what Jesse Jackson wanted to do to obama. And we didn’t hear one whimper out of them. Blackmail is a hell of a thing. But only dirty people can be blackmailed.


77 posted on 06/28/2013 8:46:36 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: snarkytart

” Ah use OBAMACARE to take away people’s guns.”

He might be dumb enough to try.


78 posted on 06/28/2013 10:28:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: Keli Kilohana

“...Jocelyn Elders has developed the safer bullet yet?”

Remember the “polish pistol”?

Rename it the “inner city pistol” — solves a lot of things.


79 posted on 06/28/2013 8:41:20 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: KeyLargo

6. No Pets.

Well, poop, what if my kid gets off the leash?


80 posted on 06/28/2013 8:49:35 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Red Steel

What guns?

Lost in a tragic accident when my boat sank!


81 posted on 06/28/2013 9:23:11 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I don’t remember that—however, I remember that Elders advocated firing blanks.


82 posted on 06/29/2013 11:26:24 AM PDT by Keli Kilohana (Editor, ZARR CHASM CHRONICAL [sic], Sore, WV)
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To: Red Steel

Unintended consequences = black market.


83 posted on 07/01/2013 10:20:36 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Red Steel

Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


84 posted on 07/02/2013 8:31:05 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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