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Tornado victims unable to get permits to rebuild their homes
NewsChannel4 KFOR ^ | 6/26/2013 | Adam Mertz

Posted on 06/27/2013 4:18:58 AM PDT by blueyon

Edited on 06/27/2013 4:29:52 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Tornado victims unable to get permits to rebuild their homes

Posted on: 10:59 pm, June 26, 2013, by Adam Mertz

OKLAHOMA CITY- Some tornado victims, who lost their homes, fear that they may not be able to re-build. Rhonda Northcutt said she is unable to get a building permit from the city because of where her home was located before it was destroyed.

“It is just unimaginable that I have to go to bed at night thinking that I even have to deal with this,” Northcutt said.

Northcutt and her neighbor Jennifer Wisooker live in a neighborhood near May and SW 149th street. Their homes were destroyed by the May 20th tornado.

According to the city, there are homes in the neighborhood that are located in an area designated as a flood way. The city said it is unable to give permits to build new homes in these types of areas because of FEMA requirements. Even though their homes were there before the storm, Wisooker and Northcutt might not be able to re-build.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: corruption; fema; obama; tornado
So sad....first you lose your home, then you can not rebuild. What a nightmare
1 posted on 06/27/2013 4:18:58 AM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

We need smaller government.

You might not get as much government “help” following a disaster but you’ll have more money and less interference as a trade off.


2 posted on 06/27/2013 4:21:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: blueyon

What? Didn’t Obama say that Big Government was there to help the tornado victims?

Anyone who believed that hopefully will wake up and smell the coffee when government agencies stand in their way. Just wait till ObamaCare kicks in and you or a loved one finds out that there is a serious health problem and Big Government is in charge.


3 posted on 06/27/2013 4:26:27 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: blueyon

Basically, you are stuck with RV parking or some single-wide trailer. Although I do agree...when the idiots of the city agreed in the first place to allow real estate development on a flood plain...they opened up the door themselves.


4 posted on 06/27/2013 4:27:44 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: txrefugee

Wasn’t it Greensburg Kansas where the government help came with new green building codes?


5 posted on 06/27/2013 4:29:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: blueyon

You need a naming system for the tornados.

Start with the Obama family, then work your way through the Democratic Party rolls.


6 posted on 06/27/2013 4:33:53 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: blueyon

Is there an Agenda 21/ICLEI connection to this? Seems to me it follows the spirit of A-21....


7 posted on 06/27/2013 4:39:30 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: pepsionice

All depends on the FEMA map. Many of the flood plain limits are incorrect. When the program was started they were done as a wag and expected to be revised as areas developed,(ie... LEMR or LOMA.)Many rural area’s cannot afford the study to revise the maps, and thus are traps by inacurate boundaries. I am not saying that this is the case here, but the boundaries can be completely inaccurate and may times theres just nothing you can afford to do about it.


8 posted on 06/27/2013 4:41:00 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: pepsionice

FEMA probably designated it a flood plain after the homes were built.


9 posted on 06/27/2013 4:41:02 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45
FEMA probably designated it a flood plain after the homes were built

Very possible. Initially we used to generate FEMA maps using Rational Method Hydrology, HEC2 and generated channel definition off of USGS quad maps. Not exactly accurate in any sense. Good for an initial wag and that's about it. Like I said they were initially meant to be revised. Now they tend to be Gospel, since most do not have the money to ammend the maps.

10 posted on 06/27/2013 4:48:43 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: blueyon

I’m going to blame big government, but for the opposite reason of most of the posts here. I’m sure that FEMA’s assumption is that the place will flood again and that the government will again cover the losses.

Make sure people know about the flood danger, make sure that before they see any FEMA money, they know that if the place floods and they’re wiped out, then they’re wiped out, period, including still having to pay off their mortgage, and then we can talk about using government money — once — to rebuild at that spot.


11 posted on 06/27/2013 4:52:16 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: reg45
FEMA probably designated it a flood plain after the homes were built.

That's exactly what they did to me. Its funny how the scam worked in my case. When I had a mortgage my house wasn't in the flood plain but I had to have flood insurance as a condition of my mortgage. Now that the house is paid off, I'm in a flood plain and don't have to get flood insurance but my rates went up because of money the insurance company has to set aside for floods according to FEMA rules.

Too make matters worse, I'm above a dam and the floodplain is already flooded. (we call it a lake) The most I've ever seen the water rise is a few inches after days of steady soaking rain.
12 posted on 06/27/2013 4:54:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: blueyon

This is very common. Homes built where they shouldn’t be or that aren’t up to current code are left alone.

But if they are destroyed or severely damaged they must be brought up to current code.


13 posted on 06/27/2013 5:15:03 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: pepsionice

As I recall the maps were “updated” within the last few years. Serveral homeowners near me were surprised to find out that their 20 year old homes are now in a flood plain.


14 posted on 06/27/2013 5:18:55 AM PDT by ken in texas (The Obama Excuse: They never told me and I didn't ask.)
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To: jiggyboy

Aren’t we talking about a tornado, not a flood. So what’s the rational for refusing to let them rebuild if wiped out by a tornado? In my county, in CA no less, they must let you rebuild regardless if there is a moritorium on new building or not. Several recent court cases have made that clear.


15 posted on 06/27/2013 5:24:48 AM PDT by calex59
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To: blueyon

Flood plain n OKC! hahahaha


16 posted on 06/27/2013 5:54:12 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: blueyon

designated as a flood way = our geologists say they’re oil under there, so we’ve gotta confiscate your land and turn it into a park to keep that dirty carbon off-limits.


17 posted on 06/27/2013 6:22:34 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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We experienced a lot of this trying to rebuild after Hurricane Katrina. You have a handful of low level bureaucrats that usually sit around approving a few permit applications a day who suddenly are overwhelmed with request and a new found POWER. I had to make MANY 60 mile round trips to the county seat to explain to the idiots their own codes. These people are inept under normal conditions and are downright dangerous under extraordinary conditions. Fighting the storm recovery was easy compared to fighting the government machine.


18 posted on 06/27/2013 6:26:41 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: 762X51

Coming soon to healthcare.


19 posted on 06/27/2013 6:27:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: D Rider

FEMA had water backing up hill on our river property 40’ over
the 100 year flood stage elevation.


20 posted on 06/27/2013 6:36:20 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: pepsionice
Basically, you are stuck with RV parking or some single-wide trailer. Although I do agree...when the idiots of the city agreed in the first place to allow real estate development on a flood plain...they opened up the door themselves.

It wasn't necessarily a floodplain when they initially built on it. Company I used to work for made lots of money because the government was constantly changing what is, and is not "floodplain".

21 posted on 06/27/2013 6:52:05 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: blueyon

Sounds like the government took their lands and owes them.


22 posted on 06/27/2013 6:55:41 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: OregonRancher
FEMA had water backing up hill on our river property 40’ over the 100 year flood stage elevation.

Yes, the original Maps were intended to be modified through a simple inexpensive process. But... nothing is simple or inexpensive once the bureaucracy settles in. Now those flood limit lines might as well be etched onto stone tablets.

23 posted on 06/27/2013 7:05:51 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: blueyon

Is there a logical reason for requiring a building permit?

Also I was told a person cannot log their own lumber (from their property) to build a house...u have to buy lumber at a place like Lowe’s Hardware. What is the reasoning for this?

so many things the govt does that does not make sense to me.


24 posted on 06/27/2013 7:30:10 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: blueyon

Give the Gub’ment power over something and they WILL destroy it!


25 posted on 06/27/2013 7:36:33 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: blueyon
Rhonda Northcutt said she is unable to get a building permit from the city because of where her home was located before it was destroyed.

Uppity peasant wench acts like she owns the government's property...

26 posted on 06/27/2013 12:53:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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