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Comprehensive Rejection House Republicans give the Senate’s immigration bill short shrift
National Review ^ | Thursday, June 27, 2013 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 06/27/2013 3:24:49 PM PDT by upchuck

Perhaps the one thing that’s certain about the House of Representatives and immigration is that the bill that just passed the Senate could never, ever pass the House. Indeed, it’s difficult to overstate how little regard Republicans there have for it, even with the border-security amendment added by Senators Bob Corker and John Hoeven.“Just like all the senators, I haven’t read it yet,” quips Representative Tim Huelskamp of Kansas. The House should “fold it up into a paper airplane and throw it out the window. Oh, is that not the right answer?” jokes Representative Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina. “The Senate is, at this point, irrelevant,” observes Representative Ted Poe of Texas, the chairman of the House immigration caucus.

“If you think that the House is going to cave and bring up the Senate bill,” Representative Devin Nunes of California says, “that is idiotic. Anyone who pushes that is just ultimately trying to kill immigration reform.”

Chief deputy whip Peter Roskam of Illinois is certain that the House would never take up the Gang of 8’s bill in its present form. “It just won’t happen. It is a pipe dream to think that that bill is going to the floor and be voted on,” he said at a breakfast Thursday hosted by National Review.

“Do we still have a bicameral government?” wonders Representative Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, the chairman of the immigration subcommittee. “You’re a smart guy. Let’s walk through this together. We do not have a unicameral system of government. We can assume the framers did that on purpose. And we can assume they did it for a reason. What do you think the reason is?” Gowdy asks.

You might think Corker-Hoeven, with its billions of dollars to bolster border security, would be receiving a warm welcome in the House. You would be wrong. “The Corker-Hoeven amendment is terrible,” says Representative John Fleming, a top immigration hawk.

Representative Michael Grimm, who represents a purple Staten Island district in New York, pans it, too. “There’s no triggers,” he says. “More work on the border is good but it doesn’t solve all the problems with that bill,” says House Judiciary Committee chairman Bob Goodlatte of Virginia.

The single biggest criticism about the Senate bill is on its relatively toothless trigger structure. Almost all House Republicans say they want legislation that demonstrably enforces the law before legalization is given to millions of illegal immigrants. The Senate bill legalizes everyone at the start and then includes relatively soft triggers on enforcement in order for the path to citizenship to commence.

Crucially, as the months have passed since Election Day, the sense of Republican panic that drove a lot of the early progress on immigration is fading.

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
Thank goodness the pub power structure in the House is treating the Senate bill as a joke.

My question: why bring it up at all? Just let it lie (lay?) there. The pubs have passed tons of legislation that the Senate is sitting on. Sauce for the goose, etc.

1 posted on 06/27/2013 3:24:49 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

bonehead will cave and the rino-dem coalition will pass it

2 posted on 06/27/2013 3:27:43 PM PDT by GeronL
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Tom Tancredo says don’t bring up any bill in the House. that’s the only way to stop Amnesty. He’s right.Any bill even if it’s just a fence bill coming out of the House will be a trojan horse .the senate will add Amnesty in conference and then all democrats in the House will vote for that merged bill. then all they need is to turn 10% of Republicans in the House to pass Amnesty

Former Rep. Tom Tancredo can see it coming: Even if the House passes a perfectly conservative bill to reform the nation’s immigration system, the Senate Gang of Eight will water it down in a conference committee and leave Republicans little choice but to get rolled and vote for a bill they don’t like.

His advice to his former colleagues: Don’t bring up a bill at all.

“Where is this national push? Are people rioting in the streets for immigration reform? It’s so odd in a way that it has achieved this level of attention and involvement,” Tancredo said in an interview Wednesday. “I would be hesitant to bring up any bill simply because of what would happen in a conference committee.”

3 posted on 06/27/2013 3:32:38 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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But if the House passes anything, it will go to conference and we’re likely to get the worst of both bills.

4 posted on 06/27/2013 3:39:28 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Yes Tancredo makes that point.

call congress . no bill at all from the House:

5 posted on 06/27/2013 3:40:58 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: upchuck

“In its present form...”

But, like Obamacare, they’ll take up “their” version that will be just as bad.

Bank on it.

6 posted on 06/27/2013 3:42:51 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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The people who scream "Secure the border" as the first step are dead wrong. The FIRST step is to round up the criminals who illegally came here in the first place, and their offspring, confiscate their assets to pay for the return trip, and get them the hell out of our our country.

THEN, do whatever it takes to seal the border, including minefields (I don't care what the U.N. says),armed drones, troops and whatever else is required.

7 posted on 06/27/2013 3:44:07 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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Exactly. Bachmann’s been warning about it as well.

The last thing we want is for House Republicans to think they can get away with passing only a ‘good’ immigration bill, since that would open up the passage of the Senate’s bad bill without the House members having to expressly vote on it.

That scam has to be exposed far and wide to keep them from trying to pull it.

8 posted on 06/27/2013 3:46:13 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Did Grimm vote against the King of Iowa amendment?

I was hoping Paladino could attack him with a superpac ad.

9 posted on 06/27/2013 3:56:38 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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Every one of the fifteen republican senators who voted for this piece of shyte bill needs to have their head shaved and *SSHOLE tattooed on their forehead.

As far as the democrats are concerned, you don't expect a cockroach to knock before entering.

10 posted on 06/27/2013 3:56:51 PM PDT by skeeter
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How is it bi-partisan wben every single dem in the US Senate votes for it? It’s a partisan bill with a few traitors voting against the conservative constituents who elected them.

11 posted on 06/27/2013 3:59:33 PM PDT by grania
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Bicameral? What have these clowns done about Obama’s immigration Executive Order? What have they done about Obama’s lack of enforcement? I can go to our local Wally World tonight and find 10 people here illegally within minutes. What a joke. What a joke Arizona’s SB10???whatever the number is is. I say all this knowing some illegal teens who are here through no fault of their own. I feel for them. I also know that they have family in Mexico and that they visit at least once a year if not more. If we had the money, there are teens we would sponsor for citizenship. But not their parents or parent.

12 posted on 06/27/2013 4:05:03 PM PDT by petitfour
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If those senile old morons in congress wanted to do the right thing (which is hard for them, since most of them are either on the take or being blackmailed), then they would just throw the whole mess out and start over by securing the border first. And it’s not a paper airplane, it’s a 100-pound brick.

13 posted on 06/27/2013 4:06:38 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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Those republicans and a good number in the house and their leaders apparently have no trouble standing by while Obama crowns himself dictator.

I despise all of them.

14 posted on 06/27/2013 4:08:37 PM PDT by skeeter
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Just in case anyone missed this: (one of many awful things about this bill.)

Ted Cruz Exposes the Amnesty Bill… $5000 Penalty for Hiring Citizens Over Legalized Aliens...

the D C Clothesline ^ | 6/27/2013 | Dean Garrison

Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:27:20 PM by blueyon

"Ted Cruz Exposes the Amnesty Bill… $5000 Penalty for Hiring Citizens Over Legalized Aliens… SERIOUSLY!!!"

We can’t possibly expect our Senators to read a 1200 page bill before voting on it. Can we? Well Thank God Ted Cruz read it. Not only did Cruz read it but he schooled anyone who would listen from the Senate floor on Tuesday. Cruz found a loophole that actually penalizes an employer $5000 for hiring a citizen over a legalized alien. Seriously. You can’t make this stuff up. Senator Cruz was quoted as saying:

“I filed an amendment that would have corrected one of the most egregious aspects of the gang of eight bill as it intersects with Obamacare legislation, namely a penalty imposed on U.S. employers for hiring U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents. This bill says if an employer hires a citizen or a legal immigrant, the IRS can impose a $5,000 penalty on that employer. But if the employer instead hires someone with RPI status, that penalty will go away. That is utterly and completely indefensible.”

(Excerpt) Read more at ...

15 posted on 06/27/2013 4:27:01 PM PDT by boxlunch (Psalm 2)
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You have to ask yourself what does Bohner(sic) value more a ingrate bill or his speakership. I’m betting its his speakership.

16 posted on 06/27/2013 4:28:59 PM PDT by Clyde5445
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Anyone know if there is a list of businesses or corporations that are in favor of this bill?

Time to boycott.

17 posted on 06/27/2013 4:50:51 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: upchuck
The House of Representatives should give this piece of legislation the same consideration that Dingy Harry Reid gave all the budgets that the House of Representatives passed since 2010- DOA!
18 posted on 06/27/2013 5:36:39 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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One of the comments at the bottom sounds exactly like my story. AND I would bet the nation is full of folk like this poster and myself. 2014 will tell, but my projection is the House falls to the RATS.

mrrealworld • an hour ago − Nice pithy article by Jonathan Strong;

Raúl Labrador of Idaho has the nexus of the GOP head-on. The GOP has become a bunch of pandering political pussies playing identity politics and endeavoring to out liberal the liberals. After 33 years, the GOP finally left me. I'm at peace with it. I cannot continually fight the liberal democratic machine and fight, what was, my own party as well. Adios!!!

Besides, the GOP is dying anyway.

19 posted on 06/29/2013 10:20:00 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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