Posted on 06/27/2013 3:24:49 PM PDT by upchuck
Perhaps the one thing that’s certain about the House of Representatives and immigration is that the bill that just passed the Senate could never, ever pass the House. Indeed, it’s difficult to overstate how little regard Republicans there have for it, even with the border-security amendment added by Senators Bob Corker and John Hoeven.“Just like all the senators, I haven’t read it yet,” quips Representative Tim Huelskamp of Kansas. The House should “fold it up into a paper airplane and throw it out the window. Oh, is that not the right answer?” jokes Representative Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina. “The Senate is, at this point, irrelevant,” observes Representative Ted Poe of Texas, the chairman of the House immigration caucus.
“If you think that the House is going to cave and bring up the Senate bill,” Representative Devin Nunes of California says, “that is idiotic. Anyone who pushes that is just ultimately trying to kill immigration reform.”
Chief deputy whip Peter Roskam of Illinois is certain that the House would never take up the Gang of 8’s bill in its present form. “It just won’t happen. It is a pipe dream to think that that bill is going to the floor and be voted on,” he said at a breakfast Thursday hosted by National Review.
“Do we still have a bicameral government?” wonders Representative Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, the chairman of the immigration subcommittee. “You’re a smart guy. Let’s walk through this together. We do not have a unicameral system of government. We can assume the framers did that on purpose. And we can assume they did it for a reason. What do you think the reason is?” Gowdy asks.
You might think Corker-Hoeven, with its billions of dollars to bolster border security, would be receiving a warm welcome in the House. You would be wrong. “The Corker-Hoeven amendment is terrible,” says Representative John Fleming, a top immigration hawk.
Representative Michael Grimm, who represents a purple Staten Island district in New York, pans it, too. “There’s no triggers,” he says. “More work on the border is good but it doesn’t solve all the problems with that bill,” says House Judiciary Committee chairman Bob Goodlatte of Virginia.
The single biggest criticism about the Senate bill is on its relatively toothless trigger structure. Almost all House Republicans say they want legislation that demonstrably enforces the law before legalization is given to millions of illegal immigrants. The Senate bill legalizes everyone at the start and then includes relatively soft triggers on enforcement in order for the path to citizenship to commence.
Crucially, as the months have passed since Election Day, the sense of Republican panic that drove a lot of the early progress on immigration is fading.
My question: why bring it up at all? Just let it lie (lay?) there. The pubs have passed tons of legislation that the Senate is sitting on. Sauce for the goose, etc.
bonehead will cave and the rino-dem coalition will pass it
Tom Tancredo says don’t bring up any bill in the House. that’s the only way to stop Amnesty. He’s right.Any bill even if it’s just a fence bill coming out of the House will be a trojan horse .the senate will add Amnesty in conference and then all democrats in the House will vote for that merged bill. then all they need is to turn 10% of Republicans in the House to pass Amnesty
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036438/posts
Former Rep. Tom Tancredo can see it coming: Even if the House passes a perfectly conservative bill to reform the nation’s immigration system, the Senate Gang of Eight will water it down in a conference committee and leave Republicans little choice but to get rolled and vote for a bill they don’t like.
His advice to his former colleagues: Don’t bring up a bill at all.
“Where is this national push? Are people rioting in the streets for immigration reform? It’s so odd in a way that it has achieved this level of attention and involvement,” Tancredo said in an interview Wednesday. “I would be hesitant to bring up any bill simply because of what would happen in a conference committee.”
But if the House passes anything, it will go to conference and we’re likely to get the worst of both bills.
Yes Tancredo makes that point.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036438/posts
call congress . no bill at all from the House:
“In its present form...”
But, like Obamacare, they’ll take up “their” version that will be just as bad.
Bank on it.
THEN, do whatever it takes to seal the border, including minefields (I don't care what the U.N. says),armed drones, troops and whatever else is required.
Exactly. Bachmann’s been warning about it as well.
The last thing we want is for House Republicans to think they can get away with passing only a ‘good’ immigration bill, since that would open up the passage of the Senate’s bad bill without the House members having to expressly vote on it.
That scam has to be exposed far and wide to keep them from trying to pull it.
Did Grimm vote against the King of Iowa amendment?
I was hoping Paladino could attack him with a superpac ad.
As far as the democrats are concerned, you don't expect a cockroach to knock before entering.
How is it bi-partisan wben every single dem in the US Senate votes for it? It’s a partisan bill with a few traitors voting against the conservative constituents who elected them.
Bicameral? What have these clowns done about Obama’s immigration Executive Order? What have they done about Obama’s lack of enforcement? I can go to our local Wally World tonight and find 10 people here illegally within minutes. What a joke. What a joke Arizona’s SB10???whatever the number is is. I say all this knowing some illegal teens who are here through no fault of their own. I feel for them. I also know that they have family in Mexico and that they visit at least once a year if not more. If we had the money, there are teens we would sponsor for citizenship. But not their parents or parent.
If those senile old morons in congress wanted to do the right thing (which is hard for them, since most of them are either on the take or being blackmailed), then they would just throw the whole mess out and start over by securing the border first. And it’s not a paper airplane, it’s a 100-pound brick.
I despise all of them.
Ted Cruz Exposes the Amnesty Bill… $5000 Penalty for Hiring Citizens Over Legalized Aliens...
the D C Clothesline ^ | 6/27/2013 | Dean Garrison
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:27:20 PM by blueyon
"Ted Cruz Exposes the Amnesty Bill… $5000 Penalty for Hiring Citizens Over Legalized Aliens… SERIOUSLY!!!"
We can’t possibly expect our Senators to read a 1200 page bill before voting on it. Can we? Well Thank God Ted Cruz read it. Not only did Cruz read it but he schooled anyone who would listen from the Senate floor on Tuesday. Cruz found a loophole that actually penalizes an employer $5000 for hiring a citizen over a legalized alien. Seriously. You can’t make this stuff up. Senator Cruz was quoted as saying:
“I filed an amendment that would have corrected one of the most egregious aspects of the gang of eight bill as it intersects with Obamacare legislation, namely a penalty imposed on U.S. employers for hiring U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents. This bill says if an employer hires a citizen or a legal immigrant, the IRS can impose a $5,000 penalty on that employer. But if the employer instead hires someone with RPI status, that penalty will go away. That is utterly and completely indefensible.”
(Excerpt) Read more at dcclothesline.com ...
You have to ask yourself what does Bohner(sic) value more a ingrate bill or his speakership. I’m betting its his speakership.
Time to boycott.
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