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Japan vows to help Philippines amid China sea row
ABS CBN News ^ | 06/27/2013 | AFP

Posted on 06/27/2013 7:12:40 PM PDT by TexGrill

MANILA - Japan pledged Thursday to help the Philippines defend its "remote islands", as both governments expressed concern over China's robust moves to stake its claims to disputed Asian waters.

Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera said China's contentious claim to nearly all of the South China Sea and its territorial dispute with Japan in the East China Sea were discussed during top-level talks in Manila.

"We agreed that we will further co-operate in terms of the defense of remote islands... the defense of territorial seas as well as protection of maritime interests," Onodera told a joint news conference.

"We face a very similar situation in the East China Sea of Japan. The Japan side is very concerned that this kind of situation in the South China Sea could affect the situation in the East China Sea," he said, speaking through an interpreter.

Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin welcomed Japan's offer of support for its poorly resourced military.

"We have agreed to continue our exchanges of information, exchanges of technology to help each other to make our defense relations stronger," Gazmin said.

Neither side offered specifics but Philippine Foreign Affairs Secretary Albert del Rosario said in February his country was expecting to get 10 new Japanese patrol boats within 18 months.

The Japanese military brutally occupied the Philippines during World War II, but the two countries have since grown closer due to trade and investment, and more recently, through China's assertiveness.

Del Rosario told the Financial Times newspaper in December that a rearmed Japan would help the region counter-balance China.

Onodera and Gazmin also on Thursday welcomed an increased military presence in Asia by their mutual ally, the United States.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: japanphilippines
Japan's recent announcement would explain why the South Korean President is visiting China right now. An Asian country requesting Japan side with them is never a smart move.
1 posted on 06/27/2013 7:12:40 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

bump


2 posted on 06/27/2013 7:16:04 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: TexGrill
China's military is doubling in size every five years.And their navy is growing fastest.The Butchers of Beijing know they have nothing to fear from Europe or the US.They also know that the USSR will quietly support them.Fear of Japan? They're rolling on the floor after hearing Japan's threats.
3 posted on 06/27/2013 7:23:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: TexGrill
Japan vows to help Philippines amid China sea row

Well hopefully it won't be the same "help" they gave 70 years ago.

4 posted on 06/27/2013 7:25:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TexGrill

“Their mutual ally, the USA”

Funny that somehow, now, there is this new, greater need for them to rely on each other.

GOSH I WONDER WHY.


5 posted on 06/27/2013 7:27:35 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: TexGrill

So people are choosing sides? And because of our current chief executive’s efforts, no one gives a flying fig who the USA is backing.


6 posted on 06/27/2013 7:32:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Gay State Conservative
China's military is doubling in size every five years.And their navy is growing fastest.The Butchers of Beijing know they have nothing to fear from Europe or the US.They also know that the USSR will quietly support them.Fear of Japan? They're rolling on the floor after hearing Japan's threats.

1) The actual manpower of the Chinese military has been declining for many years now. They're trading worthless mobs of conscripts for higher-tech weapons.

2) I'm a professional naval analyst, and in a head to head matchup, the Japanese would defeat the Chinese Navy. WITHOUT the help of the US.

7 posted on 06/27/2013 7:37:04 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: TexGrill

WWIII a brewing...

Obama disarming us as fast as he can...


8 posted on 06/27/2013 7:37:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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To: Strategerist

Glad to hear it.


9 posted on 06/27/2013 7:37:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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To: TexGrill
strange days...
10 posted on 06/27/2013 7:38:15 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Strategerist

If you can, what would your take on our present Navy be, size and preparedness?


11 posted on 06/27/2013 7:38:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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To: TexGrill

Japan’s going to get its ass kicked again.


12 posted on 06/27/2013 7:50:07 PM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: Strategerist

The Japanese Navy is very dedicated, professional and very very good. There technology is some of the best and so are her ships and crews.


13 posted on 06/27/2013 7:50:12 PM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: DoughtyOne

The irony of it all! The grandsons of General Homma and General Yamashita coming to help the Philippines.


14 posted on 06/27/2013 7:53:06 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

Yes, good call...

Sad thing is, China didn’t learn a thing from WWII.

We could all live in peace, and China has to dredge up the worst of the 20th Century to carry over into the 21st.

Lets just hope the Chinese people finally rise up and spare the rest of the world the need to take corrective measures.


15 posted on 06/27/2013 7:56:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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To: All

Ironic.


16 posted on 06/27/2013 7:59:11 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (Weiner-Holder 2016!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Think they’ll try to resurrect the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere? That worked so well last time.


17 posted on 06/27/2013 8:03:12 PM PDT by Ax
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To: DoughtyOne

Me , too . I live in Japan .


18 posted on 06/27/2013 8:06:23 PM PDT by sushiman ( .)
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To: AlexW; Berosus; buwaya; DFG; Doofer; LadyDoc; Mark17; max americana; montanajoe; ...
PIng
19 posted on 06/27/2013 8:16:31 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: Ax

I have no way of knowing what’s in their hearts. I would go into any relationship with some trepidation, but there are a number of nations in the region that are becoming alarmed at China’s belligerence and in your face attitudes. I don’t see Japan as a bad player here at all.

The South China sea, the islands near Japan...

Right now you have Hong Kong, Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, and Japan watching China with an evil eye. The only nation that may up and take a bite out of China is North Korea, and China seems comfortable with the kook rulers there. Go figure.


20 posted on 06/27/2013 8:18:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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To: sushiman

Great Sushiman. Take care.


21 posted on 06/27/2013 8:19:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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To: DoughtyOne

We lost almost 100,000 KIA in WW-III. It wasn’t cold.


22 posted on 06/27/2013 8:19:05 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: TexGrill; Ax; DoughtyOne; Rodney Dangerfield; Strategerist; gaijin; 2ndDivisionVet; dfwgator; ...

The Chinese PLA is behaving much like the IJN and IJA of
the late 19th century. The japanese militarists were fed by the Japanese economy which just took off during the second great industrial revolution.

But the japanese militarists didn’t gain the upper hand in the japanese government until they became successful at war.

Right now the chinese communist party CPC holds the upper hand in the Chinese Government. But if the People liberation army becomes successful at war—they will get the upper hand in the Chinese government. Then the PLA will bring more war as did the Japanese miliarists. Why? Because that’s what they do.

There for it is in the greatest interests of all nations to thwart the Chinese militarists in their early stages

The japanese strategists understand this — based on their own history. I think many others do as well.


23 posted on 06/27/2013 8:19:37 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ASA Vet

I’m not sure where you’re going there. Explain a bit.


24 posted on 06/27/2013 8:20:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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To: Strategerist
I can't help thinking that a war between Asian nations would be extremely non-conventional by Geneva standards.

I'm thinking that "Atrocious" would define it.

This world has been subject to similar atrocities and the left closed it's eyes to them and the victims.

This would not be something such people could ignore.

25 posted on 06/27/2013 8:21:47 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ckilmer

Thank you for the insight cKilmer. Something to think about...

Sounds reasoned.


26 posted on 06/27/2013 8:22:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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To: sushiman

Take it easy, bro. I hope nothing happens as I’m following Attack on Titan on MBS LOL


27 posted on 06/27/2013 10:45:52 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: DoughtyOne

Right now, China is carrying a big stick. Collectively, all the other players in the region would get their asses kicked by China. The only thing stopping them is the USA. Given our current leadership, however, if I were sitting in the malaca#nyang (sp) (Philippine White House), I would be a bit concerned.


28 posted on 06/28/2013 7:01:24 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

Didn’t China have a hard time with Vietnam some years back?

I have tended to agree with you, but I’m not convinced of it.


29 posted on 06/28/2013 7:17:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: Gay State Conservative

American companies need to dis-invest from China, and bring US jobs home again.


30 posted on 06/28/2013 7:20:08 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: DoughtyOne

The Red Chinese were providing logistical support to the North Vietnamese during their war against us. There were rumors of Chinese pilots also. After the war, the North Vietnamese and Red China resumed their hostilities toward each other, which had been going on for centuries.


31 posted on 06/28/2013 7:54:45 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

Thanks Ax. I was aware of that. I was referencing skirmishes about five to ten years ago.


32 posted on 06/28/2013 8:04:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think I remember reading about that. You’ve got to hand it to the Vietamese. They’ve got some real cojones to stand up to China.


33 posted on 06/28/2013 9:00:34 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

I didn’t realize it was back in 1979. Could have sworn there were tensions about five to ten years back, but I must have been wrong. Check out slide show at this link, if you like.

It’s interesting and gives you a feel for what took place.

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1879849,00.html


34 posted on 06/28/2013 11:14:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: Ax

Here’s a little more info, addresses why a war between them is inevitable.

http://www.businessinsider.com/sino-vietnamese-south-china-sea-warblood-oil-and-american-interest-the-inevitable-2011-7


35 posted on 06/28/2013 11:16:40 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: DoughtyOne

How ironic would this be? The U.S. coming to Hanoi’s assistance in a contre-temps with Beijing, who owns us lock, stock and barrel. Was that the Paracel Islands issue?


36 posted on 06/28/2013 1:34:10 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Ax

I’m not sure what the exact driver of this was. It may have been. Strange bed-fellows indeed.


37 posted on 06/28/2013 4:12:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: TexGrill

Didn’t the Japanese have a pirate base in the Philippines around 1500?


38 posted on 06/29/2013 7:53:41 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: gaijin

Don’t be surprised if South Korea gets involved, too. South Korea and the Philippines have been the best of friends since both became independent in the 1940s.


39 posted on 06/29/2013 7:56:10 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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