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‘Lackadaisical’ U.S. Park Police lose hundreds of guns, watchdog group says
Washington Times ^

Posted on 06/28/2013 4:35:04 AM PDT by qwerty1234

Poor management and shoddy oversight have led the U.S. Park Police to lose track of hundreds of rifles, handguns and machine guns, a watchdog agency said.

“We found that staff at all levels — from firearms program managers to their employees — had no clear idea of how many weapons they maintained due to incomplete and poorly managed inventory controls,” investigators with the U.S. Interior Department’s inspector general’s office said, in United Press International. “As a result, we discovered hundreds of handguns, rifles and shotguns not accounted for on official USPP inventory records.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; corruption; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
I wonder what the government would do to the average gun dealer if he couldn't account properly for thousands of guns that he handled in his store?
1 posted on 06/28/2013 4:35:04 AM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: qwerty1234

We all know the answer. Can’t account for one gun = go to jail for gun-running.


2 posted on 06/28/2013 4:36:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: qwerty1234

Park police?

Any old stoners in that group?


3 posted on 06/28/2013 4:37:00 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: qwerty1234

Did more of Holder’s narcoterrorists steal them??

Or were they removed directly by the DO”J” so the
US Park Police would have no protection??


4 posted on 06/28/2013 4:38:40 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: qwerty1234

I can’t even imagine not knowing where all of my firearms are. Exactly all of them.


5 posted on 06/28/2013 4:38:56 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: qwerty1234

Hint: check their personal gun cabinets.

Bet at least 75% of the missing weapons would be found there. The other 25% they sold.

Just more @#$%^&* government corruption.


6 posted on 06/28/2013 4:40:26 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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"....hey genius, check the Mexican border..but bring cash"

7 posted on 06/28/2013 4:43:07 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: qwerty1234

Lost? I’d love to see a search of the PP officers homes. Also I wonder what was sold to their friends for a few hundred dollars.


8 posted on 06/28/2013 4:47:00 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: PapaBear3625

>> U.S. Park Police to lose track of hundreds of rifles, handguns and machine guns

I just noticed that: MACHINE GUNS

WTF do the Park police need MACHINE GUNS for? This unconstitutional federal police force thingie is out of control!


9 posted on 06/28/2013 4:47:01 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: qwerty1234

The Dept of the Interior is fast tracking 30 year “take permits” allowing wind farm operators to kill golden and bald eagles without penalty.

A proposed wind farm in Osage County, OK., plans to kill three eagles a year for 30 years with Interior’s approval.


10 posted on 06/28/2013 4:48:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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A good friend of mine who had an FFL for over 20 years incurred the wrath of the “Boys in Black Boots” for not checking a box on a form, and was forced to surrender his license or have it revoked. He told me he had been under more intense scrutiny in the last 5 years than ever before. Can you guess his political persuasion?


11 posted on 06/28/2013 5:10:10 AM PDT by W.Lee ("Nobody throws me my own gun and says run...nobody.")
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To: Doogle
"....hey genius, check the Mexican border..but bring cash"

That'd be my guess, too - given the cartel marijuana-growing operations in our national parks. The police are just "being neighborly" (to prevent being decapitated).

12 posted on 06/28/2013 5:11:29 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Nervous Tick

Bad reporting. I doubt anyone at the Park Service carries a fully automatic weapon.


13 posted on 06/28/2013 5:18:35 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: qwerty1234

LOL...college roomate is US Park Police. I know where about a half dozen of those “lost” guns can probably be found......in a lakehouse on Lake Hamilton near Hot Springs National Park, AR. Residence of a US Park Police officer.


14 posted on 06/28/2013 5:32:50 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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Bad reporting. I doubt anyone at the Park Service carries a fully automatic weapon.

Wrong. I build Title 2 firearms with my 07/02 FFL/SOT. I have built suppressors for their select fire M4s and P90s.

15 posted on 06/28/2013 5:34:35 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Nervous Tick

For engaging multiple campers in meaningful dialogue about environmental issues.


16 posted on 06/28/2013 5:38:55 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: Nervous Tick

That was exactly my thought. Machine guns what the heck for?


17 posted on 06/28/2013 5:40:50 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: W.Lee

He should send a letter to Issa and see if this can be investigated too

I have no doubt Obama and his jackboot thugs are behind it


18 posted on 06/28/2013 5:41:44 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: SMARTY

For reasons that escape me, as a geology major many years ago I ended up in a Park and Recreation Management class in college.

The constant whine in this class was from students who couldn’t understand why they were required to take math through trigonometry. I tried to ‘splain that they might actually have to deal with an occasional surveyor and it might be nice to know a bit about trig. The mindset of that bunch was jaw-dropping. I bailed after about 4-class sessions.


19 posted on 06/28/2013 5:51:14 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: DCBryan1

I guess someone has to supply our overlords. They won’t be able to kill us all with pointy sticks.


20 posted on 06/28/2013 5:59:12 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: qwerty1234

Heaven help you if you lose a weapon or piece of equipment in a military training exercise. Always a fun time searching until it’s found.


21 posted on 06/28/2013 6:48:09 AM PDT by MinstrelBoy (If you're a conservative today, you're a hero.)
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...due to incomplete and poorly managed inventory controls....

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Is that another way of saying they sold off government property and pocketed the money?

I am willing to bet that a whole lot of laptops and such in various government agencies all over the country also go missing in a similar fashion.


22 posted on 06/28/2013 6:53:09 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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23 posted on 06/28/2013 6:54:28 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: qwerty1234

They took em home...


24 posted on 06/28/2013 7:03:49 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Doogle

Cute...


25 posted on 06/28/2013 7:04:44 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: qwerty1234

The Keystone Cops could do a better job than this crowd of buffoons.


26 posted on 06/28/2013 7:18:21 AM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: qwerty1234; All
Reading the article with a bit more critical eye, most of the firearms that were “unaccounted for” were due to simple clerical errors.

1,400 were in storage, when they were to have been destroyed.

200 were handguns transferred from the BATFE whose paperwork got lost somewhere.

Only 18 were rifles and pistols that are unaccounted for, likely over a period of decades.

In a national agency, this is simply not that big of a scandal. People quit, die, or change jobs. Deadlines come up and choices between a critical job and an inventory have to be made.

Paperwork showing legitimate disposition gets misplaced, destroyed, or lost.

Inventory requirements change and items are mislabeled. I had a portable shelter, used for men and machines, about 8x8x20 feet, mislabled as a "power winch".

I had all of the above happen to me during my career, and that was just one individual.

For an example, when I was in Panama, I was looking for a place to put a radio repeater.

There was a nice 200 foot tower on Ft. Clayton. I looked and looked, and never was able to find the owner. No one was willing to claim ownership of that tower, and it was right in the middle of base, in full sight of everybody.

27 posted on 06/28/2013 1:28:37 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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>>In a national agency, this is simply not that big of a scandal.

I disagree - it is a big scandal, and symptomatic of an even much bigger one.

The point is that if you were a gun dealer, and had the exact same track record as the government in a situation like this, you would be out of business pronto - if not locked up for gun running.

Why should we, as citizens be held to a higher standard than the government holds itself?


28 posted on 06/29/2013 5:12:48 AM PDT by qwerty1234
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No gun dealer is as big as the National Park Service.

Gun dealers, proportionally, are forgiven errors of this size every year.

Gun dealers 'lost' nearly 11,000 firearms in 2012, ATF says

29 posted on 06/29/2013 12:57:21 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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