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Open carry law poses concern for local law enforcement (MS July 1st)
Desoto Times Tribune ^ | June 27, 2013 | Tess Catlett

Posted on 06/28/2013 6:29:03 AM PDT by Sybeck1

HERNANDO- A new law giving Mississippi residents the right to openly carry firearms without the need of a gun permit will go into effect July 1.

Local law enforcement officials will receive instructions from the DeSoto County District Attorney on Thursday on how the Open Carry Law will affect them and how to handle citizens carrying guns at their sides.

“Legislators did not contact any sheriffs or law enforcement officials prior to passing the new law,” said DeSoto County Sheriff Bill Rasco. “I’m concerned that anyone can walk around with a gun on their side.”

Growing confusion regarding Mississippi’s concealed weapons carry laws prompted legislators to clarify and respond to the issue with House Bill 2.

It was previously unclear if an individual carrying a concealed weapon, which requires a permit, was in violation of the law if the weapon was accidently exposed to view.

The Open Carry Law states that a gun can be partially exposed if it is in a proper holster and can be carried openly without a permit.

“It’s a real juxtaposition,” said Southaven Police Chief Tom Long. “I’m a huge fan of the Second Amendment, but not to the point where your rights are terrorizing the public.”

“We live in an age of mass-shootings and we receive constant calls from people who think they’ve glimpsed a weapon,” Long continued. “While you have the right to carry a weapon, those around you have the right to call us if they feel threatened.”

Unless there is probable cause, individuals carrying a weapon are not required to submit to questioning.

“The law gives us the opportunity to stop and question an individual carrying a gun, but they don’t have to answer our questions,” Rasco said.

Weapons remain prohibited at schools, colleges and universities. Private property owners remain able to prohibit individuals from bringing guns, open or concealed, onto their property.

Businesses can also post signs prohibiting customers from entering the location while carrying a weapon.

“I have the authority to disallow firearms in the Courthouse and in the Justice Court, and I am,” Rasco said. “Signs will be posted on July 1.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; ms; opencarry; secondamendment
I am thinking about starting a Facebook page for Desoto county that would list businesses that are naughty or nice to the new law, to maybe have people to consider going elsewhere.
1 posted on 06/28/2013 6:29:04 AM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Pathdoc; olemisspatriot; dixiebelle; Downsouth55; Islander7; Michael Knight; ejonesie22; bkwells; ..

July 1st ping!


2 posted on 06/28/2013 6:30:02 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Marco is a good conservative. Rush and Mark tell me that everyday.)
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To: Sybeck1

“I’m concerned that anyone can walk around with a gun on their side.”

It is called the 2nd amendment moron.


3 posted on 06/28/2013 6:30:18 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Sybeck1

There are very specific people who commit gun crimes, and they usually already have a rap sheet.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 6:31:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: Sybeck1
The law gives us the opportunity to stop and question an individual carrying a gun, but they don’t have to answer our questions,” Rasco said.

A very rare acknowledgement and very important to that it has been addressed up front.

5 posted on 06/28/2013 6:34:05 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Sybeck1; All

Here is a pretty good timeline of the changes in the Mississippi Constitution and the carrying of arms:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/03/concealed-and-open-carry-in-mississippi.html


6 posted on 06/28/2013 6:35:40 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Sybeck1
“I’m concerned that anyone can walk around with a gun on their side.”

Fine for me, but not for thee.

What a moron. Mass shootings? This will prevent them, not cause them.

7 posted on 06/28/2013 6:38:19 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Sybeck1

Missouri has had an open carry law that dates back to the 1800’s, and you don’t see very many open carry around here.Actually it’s very rare.


8 posted on 06/28/2013 6:40:11 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: painter

DeSoto County Sheriff Bill Rasco is an idiot and I’m surprised to find such a mindset in Mississippi of all places. You generally think of the state as being gun-friendly.

Virginia has also been an open carry state (actually Commonwealth) for years, and it’s never been a problem here, or Missouri, or other open-carry states.

Rasco needs to take off his LEO blinders (should say Marxist blinders) and 1. Read the 2nd amendment, and 2. do some research on other states that have had OC to see it hasn’t been a problem.


9 posted on 06/28/2013 6:46:57 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: Sybeck1
Weapons remain prohibited at schools, colleges and universities.

And, no doubt, government buildings, police stations, and courthouses as well. My question is why?

10 posted on 06/28/2013 6:47:08 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Sybeck1
“We live in an age of mass-shootings and we receive constant calls from people who think they’ve glimpsed a weapon,” Long continued. “While you have the right to carry a weapon, those around you have the right to call us if they feel threatened.”

Which makes for an interesting question. Could opponents of open carry sabotage the law by barraging the police with calls claiming there was an armed person 'acting suspiciously'? I would think they would have to answer every one of them and would such a call constitute 'probable cause' as regards to stopping and questioning?

11 posted on 06/28/2013 6:54:24 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Sybeck1
Arizona is a constitutional carry state. Any legal resident who is not a "prohibited person" can carry a gun - openly or concealed. Businesses on the other hand have the right to post signs forbidding people from carrying weapons on their private property. If they don't want the business of people who carry they are free to refuse service.

So far there has been a decided lack of carnage. Every year there are fewer signs. I suspect the wet diaper crowd in MS will get over it in a few years.

12 posted on 06/28/2013 7:27:49 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: Sybeck1
“I’m concerned that anyone can walk around with a gun on their side.”

It is a hallmark of a free country, get used to it. Alaska has open or concealed carry without license. Works fine, and the police up here are the best, very respectful. They knock on your door to serve warrants and don't shoot your dog on sight either.

13 posted on 06/28/2013 7:37:17 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Sybeck1

14 posted on 06/28/2013 7:49:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Sybeck1

Supposedly there’s a business in Clinton that’s making a bunch of ‘no guns allowed’ signs due to massive demand.

Who are those companies and how about let’s boycott them?


15 posted on 06/28/2013 7:53:22 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: painter
Missouri has had an open carry law that dates back to the 1800’s, and you don’t see very many open carry around here.Actually it’s very rare.

Same here in Colorado, though open carry may actually have been criminalized by recently passed Democratic [sic] party laws: no one seems to know for sure.

I carry openly or indifferently concealed over half the time. Someone notices my gun at most once a year, more likely once every two or three years. No one's ever complained or harrassed me. The very few questions I've had have been teaching opportunities.

Every state needs constitutional carry: if you're legally entitled to keep and bear arms, you can carry whatever you'd liike however you'd lile.

16 posted on 06/28/2013 7:56:57 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Sybeck1

I’ve heard no criticizm of Atty. General jim hood. This is his fault for attempting the US and State Constitutions and the State legislature. This “DeSoto County” AG is not from DeSoto County but is from a district making up many counties and is a democrat and I would suspect in collusion with hood to undermine our right to keep and bear.


17 posted on 06/28/2013 8:55:06 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Sybeck1

I don’t go to Malco theatres anymore, I go to the 4 screen Tobia in Senatobia, better popcorn as well. I haven’t really run into gun free zone restaurants here in Desoto county. I practise common sense and stay in safe areas and avoid trouble, that’s why I avoid gun free zones.


18 posted on 06/28/2013 9:03:38 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: duffee

Desoto cinemas has mainly a Whitehaven crowd. I hope the new Olive Branch does not go that way. We drive out to Germantown sometimes at Forrest Hill to stays away from the thugs


19 posted on 06/28/2013 9:12:14 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Marco is a good conservative. Rush and Mark tell me that everyday.)
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To: Sybeck1; Dead Corpse

“...Open carry law poses concern for local law enforcement...”

“..“DeSoto County Sheriff Bill Rasco. “I’m concerned that anyone can walk around with a gun on their side.” ..

“Law Enforcement” is there enforce the law. The LAW says Open Carry is now legal. Deal with it, Public Servant.

Good on the Citizens of Mississippi for starting to take their state back.


20 posted on 06/28/2013 9:13:28 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: WKB; onyx

Ping.


21 posted on 06/28/2013 9:20:17 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NFHale

If law enforcement can’t deal with peaceably armed citizens, they might want to try another line of work.

I’d suggest fetish model or bouncer at a gay bar.


22 posted on 06/28/2013 9:48:12 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Sybeck1

If the O/B cinema is operated by Malco it’ll be a gun free zone and we won’t attend.


23 posted on 06/28/2013 10:39:52 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: duffee

http://tobiecinemas.com/

It is a Malco. Wow, Tobie has really changed from my Northwest days. Now with 3D and a five dollars matinee!! I might have to go back


24 posted on 06/28/2013 10:58:16 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Marco is a good conservative. Rush and Mark tell me that everyday.)
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To: Sybeck1
Police Chief Tom Long. “I’m a huge fan of the Second Amendment, but not to the point where your rights are terrorizing the public.”

What's this bureaucrat thinking? Those that terrorize the public don'tobey the law.

25 posted on 06/28/2013 12:08:16 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: 0.E.O

Stuff like that might fall under boy who cried wolf as far as how deeply they look into it. Yeah, they’ll check it out, but they might actually warn the person calling to stop.


26 posted on 06/28/2013 1:11:41 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: KeyLargo

Is that a real state sign?


27 posted on 06/28/2013 1:13:31 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Sybeck1

In Oregon, the most safe place in the state is an NRA function. They open carry. If anyone wanted to do harm at one of those functions, they would be dead before they got their first shot off.

That would be the case in an open carry state...all over the state!


28 posted on 06/28/2013 11:19:06 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Chickens...comin' home...to roost!)
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To: Sybeck1

I hope that the authorities go the extra mile in informing people that open carry is permitted, especially those people who will undoubtedly pester the police with nuisance “man with gun” complaints.


29 posted on 06/30/2013 9:35:14 AM PDT by Kenton
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