Does the South Belong in the Union?

Townhall ^ | 06/28/2013 | Pat Buchanan

[wardaddy]

Of course I have been arguing race and south with him here since I joined here 13 years ago

It was my first taste of so called conservatives and their utter disdain for old line social conservatives or paleos or whatever you’d like to call us from the South.

I never knew some brethren so loathed us till this forum.

Some have even made a TV pundit name for themselves disparaging Dixie as a career in order to expunge America’s PC warts in general to suit their own ends.

I’m southern white and anyone ...black white or brown expects me to piss on my heritage or ancestry to sate their own bigotry has picked the wrong freeper

There is so much more to all this than you know frankly.....you’re a bit late to the party.

Early sign up dates whilst lovely do not guarantee conservatism

Mad Ivan...Sinkspur.... howlin..... non sequitur.......r9etb......murraymom.....cgeb.......ill bay....

I could go on and on....

Many south bashers here in time prove to be moderates at best and get caught in a Fresno net from time to time

I think NS got caught in a homo net.....

X to his credit is too wily for all that....a man on a mission all too personal

He’ll be fine.....don’t you worry about him....he may be my enemy but he is not foolish..... he’s actually rather bright.....leagues brighter than his posse....all the more pity

[catfish1957]

I don't think N-S was even a moderate. He stealthly spewed his liberal agenda like the cut 'n run liberal he was. It was his self-righteous hatred of anything confederate that had him focused though.

I can't think of many here that I could get into a fist fight with, but he was one. Good riddance to trash.

[central_va]

I think 0.E.O might be N-S. Some of the old N-S style is coming out in 0.E.O posts.

[0.E.O]

I keep posting to you because you keep posting to me and I figured you deserve an answer. Sorry it upset you so that my preferred country doesn’t include Dixie but that doesn’t mean you all can’t have a nice secession all on your own.

[rockrr]

Maybe they can have it catered....hire a band. ;-)

[M Kehoe]

The ONE huge problem for the South is armor.

Actually, 80% of all the armor in the U.S. military is south of the Mason-Dixon.

Just sayin'...

5.56mm

[0.E.O]

Maybe they can have it catered....hire a band. ;-)

If they do then way things are going down there by the time they secede it'll be tacos and Mariachi.

[rockrr]

¡Si, Se Puede!.....mañana ;-)

[central_va]

If you own the factory victory is yours....

[sport]

The directin the Union is headed, I would say no.

[x]

A state where 45 percent or so of the population voted for Obama isn't going to be seceeding. Especially not if the Democrats prevail not just in the cities but in large swaths of the countryside. And especially not if racial differences are at work.

Try it and you'll probably have an internal civil war well before the federal government reacts. And if you add up the Democrats and the Graham-McCain Republicans, you'll have a hard time getting to 50 percent.

And why is 50 percent the benchmark? Wouldn't you need more to make a major change in your status? Isn't that what the Founding Fathers would have thought? Isn't that what Calhoun would have thought if he was at all serious about minority rights? You won't get that kind of majority or supermajority.

But look what's going on here. You guys won. I haven't been following the story, but my impression is that the Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution wasn't going to let what happened 50 years ago determine how the Voting Rights Act was applied any more. Is that correct? Wasn't that something some of you have been complaining about for a long time?

And if the leader of the opposition is 2nd or 3rd generation socialist Harold Meyerson, then you guys won't have to worry about the decision going into effect. Of course, that's because the media was more focused on gay marriage, but still, who'd have thought the Court would do something like this?

But everbody assumes the topic here is secession. That's funny.

FWIW, Meyerson's magazine, The American Prospect is predicting the break-up of the solid Republican South, and saying it will be "good" by which they mean good for liberals, progressives, and (since Harold's admitted it) socialists. I haven't read the article and don't know if it's true, but I'd suspect the opposite. If the South is in play, you'll see Southern Democrats playing more important roles in the party, and that means more Clintons and Carters and fewer Obamas. I can't say that's a good thing, but it wouldn't make things worse.

[ansel12]

Actually nooby, you started posting to me when I responded to another post about states and military enlistments, and I had pointed out that Utah, as almost the lowest enlisting state in America, did not belong in a category of high enlisting states.

Pointing out that Utah avoids military service, set you off, you started posting at me, and can’t bring yourself to let it go.

Often times when a new guy gets so suddenly aggressive and persistent, it indicates a retread with a history who is still carrying grudges.

[rockrr]

Why would anyone hold a grudge against you? ;-)