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Canada Moves to Eliminate Gun Registry
http://usbcnews.com/canada-moves-to-eliminate-gun-registry/ ^ | 13,06,28 | USBC News Wire

Posted on 06/28/2013 8:48:13 AM PDT by swampthang77

As the Obama administration pushes for stronger gun laws in the United States, Canada is moving toward entirely eliminating its controversial gun registry program.

Many critics have noted that gun registries place additional burdens on honest citizens looking to own firearms, while opening them up to politically motivated targeting of the kind recently revealed in the United States when the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted it had been targeting conservatives for extra scrutiny...

(Excerpt) Read more at usbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; canada; gun; guncontrol; gunregistration; guns; registry; secondamendment; sourcetitlenoturl
Canada learning from their mistakes... will we? Beforeit's to late?...
1 posted on 06/28/2013 8:48:14 AM PDT by swampthang77
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To: swampthang77

We can’t learn form our mistakes, because we make no mistakes to learn from, Citizen.


2 posted on 06/28/2013 8:49:48 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: swampthang77

Now if Canada would get rid of their draconian speech codes and “Human Rights Commission” who can have people fined and even arrested for quoting a bible verse against homosexuality... It might be a country worth considering for retirement...


3 posted on 06/28/2013 8:51:14 AM PDT by apillar
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To: swampthang77
For greater clarity, the article is discussing the long gun registry (rifles & shotguns). It's still necessary to register handguns -- that is, if you can get a permit to own one; which, odds are, you can't.
4 posted on 06/28/2013 8:52:12 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: swampthang77

Should we be moving to Canada?


5 posted on 06/28/2013 8:58:25 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: swampthang77

What the government is doing under the admitted foreign born twice unconstitutionally elected communist Kenyan, is making outlaws out of the law abiding. In essence, the government is attacking the very people they have sworn to serve and defend which is treason. But since we no longer have a Republican party but a bunch of RINO limp wristed girly men who cower into a fetal position any time the Treason party snaps its fingers, nothing is done about it. So to me it look like we could very well be heading into the CW 2 because as far as I can see, this crap isn’t going to stop. They are just going to keep attacking and attacking and attacking raising the bar every time and the question is how much are we willing to take?


6 posted on 06/28/2013 9:03:16 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: swampthang77

[[Many critics have noted that gun registries place additional burdens on honest citizens looking to own firearms, while opening them up to politically motivated targeting of the kind recently revealed in the United States when the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) admitted it had been targeting conservatives for extra scrutiny...]]

Hmmm- the difference there and here though is that our left party is hell bent on tyranny, while the canadian lefties were timid about destroying their countryty- unfortunately I do not see our country’s leftists backign down once they enact the l;aw


7 posted on 06/28/2013 9:03:16 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: apillar

According to Mark Steyn, this law was repealed:

2) On the other hand, the Canadian Senate voted today to join the House of Commons and repeal Section 13 – the “hate speech” provisions of the country’s “human rights” law.

See “One Step Forward, Two Steps Back” - it was posted on FR yesterday. I don’t have the link handy.


8 posted on 06/28/2013 9:08:42 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: swampthang77; Squawk 8888

Sounds like Canadian leaders are coming to trust their citizens *more* while one of *our* parties is coming to trust us...not at all.


9 posted on 06/28/2013 9:11:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: apillar
"Canada...might be a country worth considering for retirement..."

Freepmail me, I'm in real estate.

10 posted on 06/28/2013 9:17:28 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (The IRS--a softer Gestapo)
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To: swampthang77

The Federal Government is on board but the RCMP is trying to regulate arms through the back door.


11 posted on 06/28/2013 9:28:51 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Twotone

Yes, this is great news for us! There are still some provincial human rights tribunals sadly, and there is still hate speech provisions in the criminal code.


12 posted on 06/28/2013 9:29:43 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Twotone

Repealing the “hate speech” provisions was a giant step forward for human rights. (Real human rights that is, not “human rights” in the Orwellian sense,in which the Tribunals use the term.)


13 posted on 06/28/2013 9:53:10 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: swampthang77
No, Canada did not learn anything. The gun registry wasn't really about guns, it was a billion dollar pork barrel project to reward friends of the government. The 'gun' part was just the sales pitch.

Having spent the money on a failed computer system, the need for the project vanishes, along with the money.

14 posted on 06/28/2013 10:25:04 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: apillar
It might be a country worth considering for retirement...

While Canada is a fine country populated (largely but probably not entirely) by fine people there are a couple of things to consider.One is that their Immigration/Citizenship Ministry might not approve.Not because you're deficient in any way or because they're "mean",it would be because they want younger people with skills that their nation needs.I have long story regarding my experiences with Australia,but the bottom line is that there's no way I'd qualify for any kind of permanent residency mainly because of my (rather advanced) age.They want young,healthy,productive people...which I can easily understand.

Second...CanadaCare (aka:OsamaObamaCare) is coming to this country but is well established there.In Canada one can wait...under official government guidelines...for 6 months for at least one type of heart surgery.I know this because I saw it on an official British Columbia Health Ministry website.So,if you settle there be sure to maintain insurance in the US and choose an area near Buffalo,Detroit,Minneapolis or Seattle.

15 posted on 06/28/2013 10:34:34 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Handguns barrel must be over 4 1/2 inches or so, rifles that are semi-auto still require registration and a licenses is still needed to buy any firearm or ammunition .

Add, no handgun or semi can be fired anywhere except at a govt. approved range, with special permits required to move the firearm to and from anywhere, can`t be used in self defence, must be locked up unloaded all times, warrantless searches of your home are legal, etc,etc,etc.


16 posted on 06/28/2013 10:43:21 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I wouldn't go that far:
Alberta police loot Firearms as residence were forced out of their homes
17 posted on 06/28/2013 11:15:37 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I wouldn't go that far:

I'm not a Canadian so my opinion might not mean much but...under *those* circumstances it might have been reasonable for the police to take temporary custody of the firearms because of the danger of looting.If the owners were to go to the police station,show proper ID and some proof of ownership one would think they'd be returned.I can see where the use of the word "seized" is a bit curious,however.

18 posted on 06/28/2013 11:25:39 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
...can`t be used in self defence..

Not in *self defense*? So what happens if someone happens to be carrying a handgun,finds himself being *genuinely* threated with *serious* harm by an assailant,and successfully defends himself with that handgun? Is he charged? If so,with what? Mind you...there's no doubt about the nature or severity of the threat in the case I put forth.

BTW...my spell check says that you misspelled "defense". ;-)

19 posted on 06/28/2013 11:32:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

No.


20 posted on 06/28/2013 11:42:18 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: Sam Gamgee

Yeah, I decided to look into how arduous the Canadian guns laws actually are. On paper they don’t really look so bad. However there is the inclusion of the fact that pretty much any gun you want to own has to be approved by the RCMP. Good luck with that. I quite doubt most of my collection could cross the border.


21 posted on 06/28/2013 11:56:22 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: swampthang77; Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

22 posted on 06/28/2013 12:25:55 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: Gay State Conservative

No concealed carry in Canada.

In extreme cases a Judge will give a permit for 2 weeks or so if someone`s life is in extreme danger as being threatened .

If you shot someone you`d be charged with assualt, murder, unsafe storage, discharging a firearm with a 1000 ( note sure of exact distance) meters of a dwelling,etc,etc.


23 posted on 06/28/2013 12:56:52 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
If you shot someone you`d be charged with...murder

Even if it was *clearly* shown,at trial,that the shooter had *good* reason to fear that he was in *serious* danger of death at the hands of,let's say,a proven psychopathic killer? Would Canadian law allow such a defense and,if it was,would a judge allow the use of that defense? (If the law allows it one would think that the judge might allow it if there was strong evidence that it was true).

24 posted on 06/28/2013 1:15:56 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Not to my knowledge because a firearm must be kept locked at all times and the ammunition stored and or locked totally separately .

So a Judge would probably side with the prosecutions contention that your gun was unlocked , loaded and within reaching distance for you to have gotten the draw on the person.

Similiar to the laws in the U.K..


25 posted on 06/28/2013 3:15:18 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yikes!


26 posted on 06/28/2013 3:20:12 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
police to take temporary custody of the firearms

Right. Google New Orleans cops behavior during Katrina. They were taking custody of clothes and stuff at Walmart in uniform.

If you trust a cop with your gun then I don't trust you with a gun.

27 posted on 06/28/2013 3:32:20 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker
Right. Google New Orleans cops behavior during Katrina..

New Orleans,I suspect,is a long way from Canada.

28 posted on 06/28/2013 3:34:47 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: drbuzzard

Precisely. If the RCMP deems it on the naughty list, you can’t have it. No way. No how. The RCMP has virtually no accountability and many Canadians see the entire organization as a joke.


29 posted on 06/28/2013 4:04:04 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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