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Rep. Darrell Issa: IRSí Lois Lerner waived Fifth Amendment rights
The Washington Times ^ | June 28, 2013 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 06/28/2013 8:54:43 AM PDT by jazusamo

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa said Friday he believes the woman at the center of the IRS scandal waived her Fifth Amendment rights when she came before the committee last month.

“I have considered the matter deliberately,” including the opinion of Lois Lerner’s lawyers, Mr. Issa said,

Ms. Lerner, director of tax-exempt organizations for the IRS, began the witnesses’ testimony by denying that she acted improperly and then invoked her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

“I have not done anything wrong. I have not broken any laws,” she said. “I have not violated any IRS rules or regulations, and I have not provided false information to this or any other congressional committee.”

Mr. Issa dismissed Ms. Lerner from the witness table, but Rep. Trey Gowdy, South Carolina Republican, objected, saying that since she made a brief statement in her defense, that effectively waived her right to invoke the Fifth Amendment.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 5thamendment; irs; irsscandal; issa; lerner
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1 posted on 06/28/2013 8:54:43 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Since when does rule of law apply to liberals?


2 posted on 06/28/2013 8:56:19 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: jazusamo

Issa should never have let her leave the room. He should have suspended the hearing to consult with attorneys and made her keep her lying ass in the chair until they got legal ruling.


3 posted on 06/28/2013 8:57:04 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and the other over my mouth.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Well, call her back and start asking questions.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 8:57:14 AM PDT by mware
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To: jazusamo
I thought that ding-bat had already been called back?

For all the good it will do...

5 posted on 06/28/2013 8:57:43 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I hear you and it’s seldom, probably won’t in this matter either.


6 posted on 06/28/2013 8:57:54 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks to Trey Gowdy for calling out the sham!


7 posted on 06/28/2013 8:59:09 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: jazusamo

So they recall Lerner, and she again refuses to testify, and they hold her in contempt. Isn’t this just like Holder?
a short lived PR victory at best?


8 posted on 06/28/2013 8:59:29 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Baynative; grobdriver

Elijah Cummings will pull every trick out of the hat to derail calling her back, IMO.


9 posted on 06/28/2013 9:01:05 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: swamprebel

Have the Sargent-at-Arms arrest her, cuff her and frogmarch her out.


10 posted on 06/28/2013 9:01:30 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: swamprebel

Or she just lies, and dares Issa to do anything about it.


11 posted on 06/28/2013 9:02:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: jazusamo
Republican tactic:

Strike while the iron is hot

Strike when the iron is as cold as Nancy Pelosi's heart.


12 posted on 06/28/2013 9:02:12 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Rubio's New Book: From Nobody To Senator, To Conservative savior, Then Back To Nobody")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Since when does rule of law apply to liberals?”

Exactly.

Prediction: Nothing will happen. Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along.

Reset II - it’s not only a good idea, it’s becoming the only idea.


13 posted on 06/28/2013 9:02:37 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: cotton1706

Amen to that, a shame we don’t have many more like Trey Gowdy.


14 posted on 06/28/2013 9:03:21 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo; All

Hearing today
Part 1 is one hour 7 minutes

Internal Revenue Service Targeting Investigation

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Lern

about 20 min.

Internal Revenue Service Targeting Investigation, Part 2

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/TargetingI

Rep. Issa Opening - Full Committee Business Meeting | 6/29/13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqa7eE1PCUI

LERNER: Rep. Gowdy - Full Committee Business Meeting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PUON3HRjjs


15 posted on 06/28/2013 9:05:32 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The rule applies to every other COMMON CRIMINAL in America but NOT to this creep?


16 posted on 06/28/2013 9:06:42 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks!


17 posted on 06/28/2013 9:07:19 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

Howdy called it right away, Mr. Chairman...
Shoulda listened to him...


18 posted on 06/28/2013 9:09:10 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: matginzac

Good grief!!!
That’s Gowdy, you POS iPad.....


19 posted on 06/28/2013 9:10:05 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: jazusamo

Welcome!
You really should watch those segments in the House Oversight Committee.

They brought up an amendment and a resolution. It was on c-span 2 so it may be replayed on tv at some time.

I could not watch all of it, but there was one congress member (a Democrat) who was calling out Issa for a “witch hunt”.

I’ll have to watch it again (didn’t catch it at the time) because I was not clear exactly what the outcome was of the amendment vote or the resolution vote.


20 posted on 06/28/2013 9:12:02 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: jazusamo

Yup. Protecting criminals is what Democrats do best. BTW, they don’t want to get to the truth. If they poke around long enough, they might find connections to high level officials.


21 posted on 06/28/2013 9:12:55 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: jazusamo

For cripes sake, Issa, get off the damned pot! You can’t let this string out like F&F. DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE


22 posted on 06/28/2013 9:13:42 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: matginzac
Good grief!!! That’s Gowdy, you POS iPad.....

Weave me a cone yoo cupid bat.

Dilbert, 11/6/1995

(I think Dilbert's publisher is pretty aggressive about copyrights, so I didn't directly post the comic)

23 posted on 06/28/2013 9:16:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: jazusamo

I’m not sure he will..especially after another IRS employee took the 5th..the public is pissed...


24 posted on 06/28/2013 9:17:42 AM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: KarlInOhio

LOL!!! Nice to chuckle some today...thanks.


25 posted on 06/28/2013 9:17:55 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: matginzac

“Howdy called it right away”

http://photobucket.com/images/howdy%20doody/?page=1


26 posted on 06/28/2013 9:22:43 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: jazusamo

Wrong approach. Give her immunity - go for the big fish.

What are they going to do, hold her in contempt and put her in jail? Only make everyone feel bad for her.

They won’t prosecute her. The key is to identify the folks in the White House who are obviously behind this. Give her immunity and she has no choice.


27 posted on 06/28/2013 9:23:33 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: jazusamo

Get the House prison cell ready...she will not comply.


28 posted on 06/28/2013 9:24:54 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: matginzac
Good grief!!! That’s Gowdy, you POS iPad.....

LMAO!!!!! Happens to me all the time! I thought you were just bein' folksy! ;-)

29 posted on 06/28/2013 9:27:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: matginzac

Wow.. I just got a great laugh out of that... thanks, fellow VA FReeper. How goes it?


30 posted on 06/28/2013 9:28:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: grobdriver

Yep. you can bet if she’s called back she. Will assert the 5th.

Would be sumpin if she were held in contempt.

Not gonna happen.


31 posted on 06/28/2013 9:40:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jazusamo

Shoot her then, see if we get anything out of her when she is dead, effin’ narzi.


32 posted on 06/28/2013 9:41:12 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: jazusamo

SHE TESTIFIED TO HER INNOCENCE then pleaded the 5th. You cannot pick and choose to testify then not testify. How is she allowed to get away with that? She waived her rights by testifying. Even a novice such as myself figured this one out. Has Issa been blackmailed now too? Lerner should be charged with ‘abuse of power’ at a minimum and we taxpayers should not be PAYING HER WHILE ON LEAVE.


33 posted on 06/28/2013 9:41:16 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; All

Bye-bye 5th Amendment! Supreme Court Decides: Anything You Don’t Say Can and Will Be Used Against You

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/bye-bye-5th-amendment-supreme-court-decides-anything-you-dont-say-can-and-will-be-used-against-you_06192013


34 posted on 06/28/2013 9:47:17 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: All; GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

In the first link at post #15 at 34:15 minutes Rep. Trey Gowdy speaks and rips Lerner for testifying after asserting the fifth.

It’s worth the 5+ minutes to watch, Gowdy is terrific.


35 posted on 06/28/2013 9:48:37 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

you can invoke the fifth at anytime, to any question...

that is your right.

teeman


36 posted on 06/28/2013 9:57:45 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: teeman8r

Statements a person makes under oath are subject to cross examination according to Trey Gowdy, he said you cannot assert the fifth and then present your side of the story.

Check my post #35


37 posted on 06/28/2013 10:03:37 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Ha ha..... :-)


38 posted on 06/28/2013 10:32:38 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: ScottinVA

Glad you liked it! Happens to me ALL the time ‘cause I like to goof the spelling and I forget sometimes that Apple doesn’t....
Things going well this side of the Rivah personally. Politics in IOW aren’t doing so hot...I’m sure you’ve read all the who-struck-john on a school board member and a supe and our local NAACP...sheesh. Meanwhile our taxes went up again...great.
Gunna chill for the rest of the summah then try to help Cooooch win...


39 posted on 06/28/2013 10:37:08 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: jazusamo

Bring her in and question her anyway.

“You seem to be sweating. Is it too hot in here for you?”

“I assert my rights under the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer that question.”

“How about deodorant? Does the Fifth Amendment preclude you from using deodorant?”

“Are you implying that I stink?”

“I assert my rights under the Fifth Amendment to not answer YOUR question! Now, how do you like that Ms Fifth Amendment smarty-pants? And I’m not implying anything. Your behavior in this matter stinks so bad that there isn’t enough SECRET deodorant in the country to cover up your stench.”


40 posted on 06/28/2013 10:40:07 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: jazusamo

Apparently Ms. Lerner was too clever by half.


41 posted on 06/28/2013 10:45:32 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: jazusamo
B T T T ! ! ! ©

42 posted on 06/28/2013 10:47:50 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Iron Munro

Hilarious, FRiend ;^)


43 posted on 06/28/2013 10:49:18 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: cotton1706
Thanks to Trey Gowdy for calling out the sham!

Yep...he said it and FReepers repeated it, LOUDLY!!

Okay, Issa...now what?

44 posted on 06/28/2013 10:50:35 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Whenifhow
"I could not watch all of it, but there was one congress member (a Democrat) who was calling out Issa for a “witch hunt”."

Didn't a dem invoke "macarthy" during a roll call?

He did it in a very snarky way, IIRC. It was too cute by half, IIRC.

45 posted on 06/28/2013 11:14:12 AM PDT by hummingbird (So many conspiracies. Not enough time.)
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To: matginzac

Yeah, I did hear about that... I hope it settles down over there.

Go Cooch!!!


46 posted on 06/28/2013 11:27:19 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: jazusamo

Rep Gowdy can say all day long, but the witness will invoke and has a right to do so. it is incumbent on the state or congress in this case to introduce evidence to the contrary and pursue justice that way. or prove her statements are not true.

she can say all day long, “i did nothing wrong. i will not answer, that question on fifth amendment grounds.”

that is the reality of the situation.

giving her immunity to get to higher ups will end the search because she will be immune to prosecution and the one who instigated the scrutiny.

we need more evidence and then threaten prosecution.

even on circumstantial evidence. make her want to talk.

teeman


47 posted on 06/28/2013 11:41:52 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: jazusamo

No, worse.. You cannot give your sound bite to the state run media then say you will not talk.


48 posted on 06/28/2013 12:08:05 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: teeman8r

wrong


49 posted on 06/28/2013 12:09:44 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: teeman8r

I think she knows she is free from harm regardless what happens. Holder is head of DOJ.. 0bama is his boss.. SCOTUS has been blackmailed to give 0bama his way.. We’re screwed every which way you look at it. Congress’ citing of Holder with ‘Contempt of Congress’ charge means nothing.


50 posted on 06/28/2013 12:10:17 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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