Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama's Final Word: Catholics Must Buy/Provide Coverage for Abortion Drugs
Cybercast News Service ^ | 6/28/2013 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 06/28/2013 11:47:53 AM PDT by markomalley

The Department of Health and Human Services today released the final text of the final adjustments to the Obamacare regulation that requires virtually all health-care plans to provide cost-free coverage for sterilizations, contraceptives and abortion-inducing drugs.

Catholics and Evangelical Christians have objected to the regulation, arguing that it violates their First Amendment right to the free exercise of religion. The Catholic Church teaches that sterilization, contraception and abortion are all intrinsically immoral. Evangelical Christians believe that abortion takes an innocent human life and is thus wrong.

The final regulation issued today provides no accommodations at all for individual Catholics and other Christians who morally object to the mandate. It also makes no accommodations for private for-profit employers who morally object to the mandate. Catholic and other Christian individuals in the United States will now be forced by the Obama administration to get coverage for sterilizations, contraceptives and abortion--whether they want it or not.

The Obama administration's mandate says: They have no choice.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; contraception; obama
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-115 next last
To: MHGinTN

You mean the Catholics who contracept, abort, sodomize, commit sacrilege, and can’t bother to come to Church? The ones in a perpetual state of mortal sin? Those Catholics?

They vote for devils because they are most comfortable in the company of them. Angels make them squirm.


51 posted on 06/28/2013 12:40:08 PM PDT by Claud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: MHGinTN

Answer”

NO!!!

The old head in the sand thing.

:-(


52 posted on 06/28/2013 12:42:45 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: markomalley
Obama's Final Word: Catholics Must Buy/Provide Coverage for Abortion Drugs

Forget Freedom of Religion or The Constitution! The emperor has decreed it so!

53 posted on 06/28/2013 12:48:00 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Jesus, Please Save America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JCBreckenridge

The Mormon would not be forcing us to pay for this stuff. I thought that was pretty clear.


54 posted on 06/28/2013 12:50:32 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: JCBreckenridge
Now you are quoting me. And I got it from Ben Franklin.

Get over your paranoia. Growing up in Wisconsin as a Lutheran, I got my ration of crap from Roman Catholics. I got over it. You better, too!

55 posted on 06/28/2013 12:53:20 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Yehuda
ping, as per your request.

This one is rather mild, but the essential message is there.

If a few certain posters show up, the hatemeter will rise significantly.

Have a great weekend!

56 posted on 06/28/2013 12:57:19 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Buckeye McFrog

The Mormon forced us to pay for this in MA!


57 posted on 06/28/2013 12:58:09 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: The Sons of Liberty

Seig Heil!


58 posted on 06/28/2013 12:58:54 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Steve_Seattle
Let me get back to you.

It was some time ago when I read it. I think here at FR.

59 posted on 06/28/2013 1:02:02 PM PDT by mware
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Steve_Seattle

http://pjmedia.com/blog/obamacares-muslim-exemption/


60 posted on 06/28/2013 1:06:44 PM PDT by mware
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

His final word? Really? Woot!


61 posted on 06/28/2013 1:08:19 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne; wmfights

I’m with you on this! Twelve months at best. Things are moving very fast and Obama doesn’t want to lose any advantage or let opposition grow, particularly while the Dems have a majority in the Senate - not that he cares what the legislature does anyway - and while he has full control over the enforcement agency (the IRS).


62 posted on 06/28/2013 1:14:03 PM PDT by livius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

The Supreme Court may well have other ideas on this issue.


63 posted on 06/28/2013 1:16:49 PM PDT by firebrand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: firebrand
The Supreme Court may well have other ideas on this issue.

THIS SCOTUS? Really?

64 posted on 06/28/2013 1:24:18 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: Trailerpark Badass; SJackson; rmlew; Ezekiel; Eleutheria5; Nachum

Thanks, now I don’t feel so “special!”.

Ps - to those CC’d here: search the word “vote” on this thread. Ring any “bells”?


65 posted on 06/28/2013 1:27:09 PM PDT by Yehuda
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Most of the people who voted for and supported Obamacare are still in office.

If I were a liberal Democrat, I’d be laughing and crapping on everyone too.

No one anywhere is lifting a finger to stop them from doing anything.


66 posted on 06/28/2013 1:27:28 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Yehuda
Believe me, it's frustrating.

I've asked numerous times what such observations are intended to accomplish; obviously the self-identified religious people who vote for Dems aren't posting here. I can't control what those who say they share my faith do.

But, sadly, many "Catholics" DO vote for abortion, homosexuality, illegal immigration...not really any way to argue against that.

67 posted on 06/28/2013 1:34:27 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: LucianOfSamasota

YA! Wilkomen, zu stalag Amerika! Schmutziger Hund.


68 posted on 06/28/2013 1:41:24 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Can “Civil Disobedience” be far behind?


69 posted on 06/28/2013 1:42:24 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Buckeye McFrog
The Bishops had their chance.

All, some, most, a few?

70 posted on 06/28/2013 1:58:23 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1
In the battle between good and evil, Obama has chosen his side. May God have mercy on his soul (if Obama still has a soul).

He was probably born without a soul.
71 posted on 06/28/2013 3:03:51 PM PDT by Wanderer99
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bunkerhill7
Obama’s Final Word: My Mother should have got an abortion

Wish he would just kill himself instead of using that anger to ruin millions of families.
72 posted on 06/28/2013 3:04:49 PM PDT by Wanderer99
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
I’m not a Catholic. I stand shoulder to shoulder with them on this issue. We really need to take a stand as a people on this issue. I don’t care if you’re an atheist, agnostic, or loathe Catholicism, this is one of those moments where they came for someone else, you stood there, and when they came for you, there was nobody left to defend you. This punk has got to learn the Eastwood rule. “A man has got to know his limitations.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VrFV5r8cs0

We had one final chance last November. This is never going to end with anything less than extreme physical violence.

If the enemy tries to push death pills on my wife and kids, I will slaughter the enemy. No politeness, no mercy. End of discussion.
73 posted on 06/28/2013 3:07:43 PM PDT by Wanderer99
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: JCBreckenridge

The solution was to vote for the Mormon who endorsed both gay marriage and signed Romneycare into MA?

The problem isn’t that the Church failed to attack Obama - the problem is that Republicans have failed the Church.

The Catholic betrayal of our freedoms goes back far longer than the recent election.

They have been preaching the gospel of envy ever since the new deal.

Catholics were warned that allowing a secular government to accrue so much power in the name of "helping the poor" would eventually lead to the state having the power to persecute the church.

The warnings were ignored, and now the church must face the redemptive suffering it brought on itself.

74 posted on 06/28/2013 3:24:54 PM PDT by ClaytonP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: livius

It’s shocking to see Bible prophecy fulfilled so rapidly. It’s speeding up...


75 posted on 06/28/2013 4:11:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Wanderer99

Can’t say you’re wrong.


76 posted on 06/28/2013 4:20:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

Obama sold his soul a long time ago.


77 posted on 06/28/2013 6:05:55 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: JCBreckenridge
We’re a Catholic school, funded by Catholic parishioners. Do you really think we would shut down our mission even if Obama declared us to be enemies of the state?

You won't have a choice if the graduates of your schools don't graduate with a degree, or diploma, that's recognized by other schools.

78 posted on 06/28/2013 7:54:29 PM PDT by wmfights
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: wmfights

We do significant business with homeschooled and public school students as supplementation.

Parents want to be sure their kids are prepared. O can’t do a lick about it.


79 posted on 06/28/2013 7:58:47 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: ClaytonP

If you look at the actual data - if the entire electorate were composed only of Catholics, Obama would have lost in 2012. Obama lost PA, NY, OH, FL, VA, NC; in every single swing state, Catholics rejected Obama.


80 posted on 06/28/2013 8:00:45 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: livius; DoughtyOne
I’m with you on this! Twelve months at best. Things are moving very fast and Obama doesn’t want to lose any advantage or let opposition grow, particularly while the Dems have a majority in the Senate - not that he cares what the legislature does anyway - and while he has full control over the enforcement agency (the IRS).

I disagree because the progressives desire for a socialist state won't end with obama. They have packed the bureaucracy with like minded people. They see their coalition comprised of unmarried women, minorities, sexual deviants and Sunday go to meeting Christians getting stronger.

They see that only a minority of this country takes their faith seriously and with the media working overtime to denigrate people who truly believe in Jesus Christ what's the rush. The RC's showed they are a paper tiger in the last election when they re-elected obama.

They don't need to move quickly. The mechanics for the govt to be our master in all aspects of our lives are in place.

81 posted on 06/28/2013 8:08:59 PM PDT by wmfights
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: markomalley
No longer a fascist form of government, but a dictatorship.
82 posted on 06/28/2013 10:54:07 PM PDT by SisterK (RIP America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

“In the battle between good and evil, Obama has chosen his side. May God have mercy on his soul (if Obama still has a soul).”


In the battle between good & evil, evil loses.


83 posted on 06/28/2013 11:01:29 PM PDT by ourworldawry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

See Jim Towey’s op-ed “Supremes’ Quiet Hit on Obamacare” in the June 26 New York Post. Namely, the Court ruled that the government cannot make aid contingent on an organization’s point of view. The point of view in this case was an organization’s stance pro or anti prostitution.

Hello. The same thing applies to ObamaCare. Never mind that the organization wanted the government to be against prostitution and not give aid to those who refused to forbid it, but the Court said you can’t do that. That would violate the 1st Amendment. Prostitution bad, abortifacients bad, but the principle is the same.

Well, we can hope. Opinion by the not-too-stupid Roberts.


84 posted on 06/28/2013 11:44:47 PM PDT by firebrand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: ourworldawry
In the battle between good & evil, evil loses.

Correction. Evil loses eventually In the time between now and that final defeat they will have many, many victories. We see them all about us now.

Nope, I have seen the (immediate) future and it is not good.

85 posted on 06/29/2013 1:44:25 AM PDT by Vanders9
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: ourworldawry
In the battle between good & evil, evil loses.

That's a cheerful perspective, all the more so because it is accurate. Mine is less cheerful but no less accurate:

In the battle between good & evil, evil loses - eventually.

86 posted on 06/29/2013 2:57:23 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Buckeye McFrog

Had this been done, as you suggest, the outcome would’ve been nearly the same. The so-called Catholics supporting Obama resent the Church telling them how to vote. They vote with organized labor or the anti-war camp exclusively, the latter as some misguided following of what they believe to be the enactment of Catholic social justice in the culture. They haven’t a clue what it truly means live their faith...


87 posted on 06/29/2013 4:19:07 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: JCBreckenridge
If you look at the actual data - if the entire electorate were composed only of Catholics, Obama would have lost in 2012. Obama lost PA, NY, OH, FL, VA, NC; in every single swing state, Catholics rejected Obama.

Like I said, I'm not focusing on the last election, but rather the decades of "social justice" that laid the groundwork for this.

THAT is where the culpability lies.

88 posted on 06/29/2013 5:57:40 AM PDT by ClaytonP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: wmfights

If they get away with this, they will be able to edit the Bible and tell the church what scripture it can teach. This can only come from pure evil.


89 posted on 06/29/2013 6:43:26 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: VerySadAmerican
If they get away with this, they will be able to edit the Bible and tell the church what scripture it can teach. This can only come from pure evil.

I agree.

I think we are watching the rise of the era of the totalitarian state. Institutions that don't fall into line will be systematically neutered. As these institutions fall into line their beliefs will be reinterpreted to fit the new "orthodoxy".

I believe we can learn from how the Christians failed to respond to the threat of islam as it emerged in the middle east and how Christians are wining the day in China.

90 posted on 06/29/2013 6:55:48 AM PDT by wmfights
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: wmfights

Well we’ll see...


91 posted on 06/29/2013 7:18:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: Pollster1

Soul? It is my firm belief Obama is an anti-Christ just look into his souless eyes, lack of background, influences and his lack of faith.


92 posted on 06/29/2013 8:17:10 AM PDT by WilliamRobert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ClaytonP

Well, unfortunately, you’re wrong here. :)

Even with that aspect, most Catholics in most states are prolife and against gay marriage, whereas the Republican nominee supported both.


93 posted on 06/29/2013 9:29:00 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: wmfights

It’s been done before... See, King James Bible.


94 posted on 06/29/2013 9:29:41 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: MrB
You’re assuming that the Catholics that voted democrat view Catholic doctrine to be superior to liberal humanist doctrine. Are you certain that that’s a correct assumption?

That wasn't true in Minnesota. When the battle over the marriage amendment was raging last fall, there were quite a few "Another Catholic voting no" lawn signs in the Twin Cities. Poseurs, all.


95 posted on 06/29/2013 12:15:46 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Yehuda

How nice. Free Exercise clause now only applies to what prayers people say, and what gods they worship. Religion is officially banished from any role in public discourse on anything, but the state can invade any other aspect of religion that it cares to, except if the religion is Islam. Thank you for freeing us all from freedom, oh, One./s


96 posted on 06/29/2013 2:11:15 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: WilliamRobert
Soul? It is my firm belief Obama is an anti-Christ just look into his souless eyes, lack of background, influences and his lack of faith.

Everything Obama does is in active opposition to Jesus and to Christianity, so he is certainly an anti-Christ. As for being the Anti-Christ (I know you used "an" and not "the"), I find the most frightening thing about Obama to be that he's not the Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ would be just as evil and malicious, but much more energetic in obliterating everything good. Obama's destruction seems almost casual - just what he can wreck between vacations and golf outings. When I see how little we can accomplish against this minor league player, I finally have an appreciation for just how terrible the real showdown will be.

97 posted on 06/29/2013 3:25:03 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: markomalley; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; ...

Next up: Ohomocare, in which all businesses will be mandated to provide services for gay weddings, if so requested.


98 posted on 06/29/2013 4:39:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jeepers... Thanks for the ping...


99 posted on 06/29/2013 8:12:37 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 98 | View Replies]

To: Steve_Seattle
It has destroyed my family. I told my sister and brother-in-law - who support this stuff - that I will no longer attend family events.

Now we are starting to get a taste of what the folks must have felt like right before the first American civil war broke out. Families divided and destroyed. Lines drawn. And then the actual fighting began.

100 posted on 06/29/2013 8:59:35 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-115 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson