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US-Japan war games off the California coast imitate Chinese invasion
rt ^ | June 27, 2013 18:28

Posted on 06/28/2013 8:10:51 PM PDT by Red Steel

The US and Japan are preparing for a possible Chinese invasion of the Senkaku Islands. Using a small island off the coast of California, US and Japanese forces are mimicking an armed invasion and an amphibious assault to prepare for a real-life scenario.

The unprecedented drills, code-named Dawn Blitz, are being conducted on San Clemente Island, which is 75 miles northwest of San Diego, the Christian Science Monitor reports. They began with an assault led by 80 US Marines and three MV-22 Osprey aircraft, and were followed by a Japanese counterattack using 1,000 troops and two warships. Although Japanese officials claim they are not preparing to target a third country, the exercises have made Chinese officials uncomfortable.

China and Japan have long disputed the Senkaku Islands, which are located in the East China Sea but which the Japanese government purchased from private owners in 2012. The islands are uninhabited, but believed to hold rich oil and gas deposits. The purchase triggered violent protests that tens of thousands of Chinese took part in, and harmed Sino-Japanese relations.

In the months after the purchase, the Chinese navy practiced military exercises near the islands, and joint US-Japanese naval drills subsequently occurred in the waters of the island chain. The latest drills off the California coast are only adding to tensions regarding the Senkaku Islands. Chinese officials reportedly objected to the drills, but their concerns were ignored by Washington, the Christian Science Monitor reports.

"We're aware of China's objections, but from a Japanese and US perspective, the object of the exercise is to build a powerful deterrent and demonstrate that the two forces are seamlessly connected – to show the Chinese that they are battle-ready," an official source familiar with Dawn Blitz told the Monitor on condition of anonymity. "There is nothing unusual in that."

The exercises began just two days after President Obama met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping at a California summit on June 8. But even though some believe the US is in a tricky position, the official does not believe the US is in the wrong, since the US-Japan security treaty requires the country to help Japan deter any attacks on its territory.

"I don't think Dawn Blitz puts the US in a tricky position," the official said. "They started the drill just after the Obama-Xi summit to avoid any diplomatic repercussions. But the fact that Japan and the US went ahead with the exercise also sends a message – that they are on the same page when it comes to deterring possible Chinese aggression."

Lt. Gen. Koichi Isobe, Japan’s vice chief of staff, told reporters that Japan’s self-defense forces (SDF) need to develop the capabilities to ward off any attacks that might occur on the remote islands.

"The defense of remote islands is a pressing issue, but the SDF [Japan's self-defense forces] has just begun training to develop such capabilities, which are required of US Marines," Japan's vice chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Koichi Isobe, told reporters. "Japan needs to determine its defense strategy and procure necessary equipment and train SDF members for this purpose."

The US has publicly refused to take sides regarding the Senkaku Islands, but its training exercises with Japan may inadvertently cause a shift in its neutrality.


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1 posted on 06/28/2013 8:10:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Off LAX you can see Communist Chinese submarines shooting off fireworks attempting to compete with Disneyland.

Very bizarre.


2 posted on 06/28/2013 8:13:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TigersEye

Pei-Ping.


3 posted on 06/28/2013 8:14:06 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Red Steel

I give not a whit about whom controls the Senkaku Islands.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 8:14:18 PM PDT by RugerMini14
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To: dragnet2

When was that?


5 posted on 06/28/2013 8:14:45 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Last night about 915 pm.


6 posted on 06/28/2013 8:15:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Red Steel

Ok, I realize this is not a huge deal but San Clement Island is off the coast of Santa Barbra.......not San Diego


7 posted on 06/28/2013 8:15:38 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Red Steel

“an assault led by 80 US Marines and three MV-22 Osprey aircraft, and were followed by a Japanese counterattack using 1,000 troops and two warships”

I think the action may be a little larger than that.

Does anyone have any idea what China’s amphibious capabilities are? I think they have one carrier, and that is being refitted. I think I just read that it took over 800 support ships for us to invade Okinawa. I do not think China is up to that. Of course they could build a bridge. They are pretty damn good with walls and transcontinental railroads; just three years to build ours.


8 posted on 06/28/2013 8:17:06 PM PDT by rey
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To: Red Steel

The CSM article from June 10.

“Japanese troops to converge on Calif. in unprecedented military exercise

Japanese troops in the US: American and Japanese military officials said the training will help Japan’s Self-Defense Force better respond to crises such as natural disasters. ...”

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0610/Japanese-troops-to-converge-on-Calif.-in-unprecedented-military-exercise


9 posted on 06/28/2013 8:20:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: svcw

The Chanel Island are off San Santa Barbara.


10 posted on 06/28/2013 8:21:33 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.")
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To: svcw
San Clement Island is off the coast of Santa Barbra.......not San Diego

uhhh, actually San Clemente Island is closer to being off the coast of San Clemente, about 150 miles south of Santa Barbara

11 posted on 06/28/2013 8:22:11 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died, now Obama covers up the lies.)
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To: Red Steel

Does the Japanese navy still have the blueprints for the long lance torpedoes?


12 posted on 06/28/2013 8:23:38 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: ThomasThomas
That's Channels IslandS
13 posted on 06/28/2013 8:25:12 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Red Steel

You could watch some landing exercise along I-5 when I lived near San Diego. Nothing quite like driving along on the freeway with a full scale invasion going on. The have underpass to get past the freeway. Back then they always found a few illeaglas while they were at it.


14 posted on 06/28/2013 8:27:52 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.")
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To: Army Air Corps

15 posted on 06/28/2013 8:29:25 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Michael.SF.; All

Santa Barbara Channel Islands:
Anacapa
San Miguel
Santa Cruz
Santa Rosa
San Clemente
San Nicolas
Santa Barbara
Santa Catalina
I know it is not the end of the world, however these islands are not off San Diego.


16 posted on 06/28/2013 8:30:06 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: rey

They will invade hiding in container ships, watch out for the container ships!


17 posted on 06/28/2013 8:31:16 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: Red Steel; a fool in paradise

They oughta conduct these exercises in front of a Wal-Mart store!


18 posted on 06/28/2013 8:31:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: svcw

look at a map.


19 posted on 06/28/2013 8:32:53 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died, now Obama covers up the lies.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I do not need to, all I have to do is look out side.


20 posted on 06/28/2013 8:34:24 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Red Steel

The Senkaku Islands are more important than our childrens’ lives. Obviously. Ask McCain. You aren’t an isoloationist are you???

/sarc


21 posted on 06/28/2013 8:42:16 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: svcw

Ummm....I also say “look at a map.” It’s off San Clemente, and much closer to San Diego than Santa Barbara.


22 posted on 06/28/2013 8:44:07 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: Revolting cat!

San Clemente doesn’t have a Wal-Mart. And all the buildings are blue and kinda fuzzy,

http://goo.gl/maps/VaA4x

http://goo.gl/maps/CWhZG


23 posted on 06/28/2013 8:50:49 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.")
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To: Red Steel

Maybe the Chinese will invade and bring capitalism to California.


24 posted on 06/28/2013 8:54:06 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: norcal joe

The list I listed are the Santa Barbara Channel Islands, sorry that’s just what it is.


25 posted on 06/28/2013 8:55:48 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Husker24

Good one


26 posted on 06/28/2013 8:56:16 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: norcal joe
115 miles from S.B, 70 miles from San Diego.

As an aside, the runway there is at the edge of a big cliff giving it some wicked winds. At night when they are doing practice landings for the Navy they shut down all the lights on the base except the red hazard lights on the hillside and the carrier box on the runway. It totally sucks, but it's the best training you can get.

27 posted on 06/28/2013 8:56:25 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Or 99.9323 and 60.8283 nautical miles.

Do pilots use nautical miles over water. And statue miles over land?


28 posted on 06/28/2013 9:10:40 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ("We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.")
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To: dragnet2

I’ve never heard that. What is your source?


29 posted on 06/28/2013 9:11:55 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: Husker24
Okay, THAT'S funny!

Thanks for the chuckle.

30 posted on 06/28/2013 9:14:47 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Husker24
Maybe the Chinese will invade and bring capitalism to California.

Good One!

31 posted on 06/28/2013 9:15:23 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: Army Air Corps; dragnet2

This launch was delayed and went off last night.

PEGASUS LAUNCH VISIBILITY
by Brian Webb

Given clear skies and bit of luck, observers over a wide area may be
able to see some portion of Wednesday’s offshore NASA satellite
launch. Launch is targeted for 7:27:34 p.m. PDT during a launch window
that extends from 7:27 to 7:32 p.m.

A converted airliner will carry a Pegasus XL rocket containing the
IRIS satellite from the Orbital Sciences Corp. facility at Vandenberg
Air Force Base to the launch point high above the Pacific about 70
miles southwest of Monterey. When the L-1011 reaches a
three-dimensional point in space at 36.000° north, 123.000° west, and
39,000 feet, it will release the rocket. After a five-second fall,
the Pegasus first stage will ignite and IRIS will begin a 13-minute
climb into orbit.


32 posted on 06/28/2013 9:17:50 PM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: ThomasThomas

Nautical miles all the way for flying, but I pulled the distances off google earth and it was in statue miles.


33 posted on 06/28/2013 9:17:55 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Red Steel
Dawn Blitz

I went out with her in high school. Not the most beautiful girl, but made awesome Sauerbraten.

34 posted on 06/28/2013 9:27:23 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Red Steel

bttt


35 posted on 06/28/2013 9:38:01 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Red Steel

One of these clowns tries to invade my space i will rip their frigging throat out.
At this point i have nothing to lose.
Bring it on


36 posted on 06/28/2013 9:53:31 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: svcw

37 posted on 06/28/2013 10:07:25 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died, now Obama covers up the lies.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Did you read what I wrote?
The list I gave is called “Santa Barbara Channel Islands”.


38 posted on 06/28/2013 10:34:58 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Red Steel

Yeah right. Wolverines and Marines.


39 posted on 06/28/2013 10:57:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: svcw

40 posted on 06/28/2013 10:57:19 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: Red Steel

Who writes these articles, a communist Chinese? China is not “uncomfortable” and Japan and the USA have been military allies over 60 years. Our joint defense preparations do not “increase tensions.” It would be irresponsible not to hold these drills.


41 posted on 06/28/2013 11:29:21 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams
Who writes these articles, a communist Chinese?

A Russian communist. RT = Russia Today

42 posted on 06/28/2013 11:42:52 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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To: Williams

Why are we practicing protecting our coasts? We need to “do something” in Syria!!

/s


43 posted on 06/29/2013 5:07:31 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: svcw
The list I gave is called “Santa Barbara Channel Islands”

I am really unclear why you are being so obtuse on this relatively minor issue (as you yourself stated), but my comment to the salient fact quoted above would be:

Calling the chain of Islands off the coast of California the "Santa Barbara Channel Islands" still does not place San Clemente Island off of the coast of the City of Santa Barbara. In fact the island remains where it is: off the coast of Orange and San Diego Counties.

44 posted on 06/29/2013 6:31:45 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died, now Obama covers up the lies.)
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To: Michael.SF.

The list of islands is called The Santa Barbara Channel Islands, not sure why that upsets you - sorry. I am going to the beach tata


45 posted on 06/29/2013 6:39:44 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: svcw

If you go into the water don’t hold your breath.


46 posted on 06/29/2013 7:45:31 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Electorate data confirms Resolute Conservative voted for Soetoro)
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