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Greenwald on ‘coming’ leak: NSA can obtain one billion cell phone calls a day, store them and listen
RT ^ | June 29, 2013

Posted on 06/30/2013 12:32:19 PM PDT by opentalk

The NSA has a “brand new” technology that enables one billion cell phone calls a day to be redirected into its data hoards and stored, according to the Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald, who said that a new leak of Snowden’s documents was ‘coming soon.’

Calling it part of a “globalized system to destroy all privacy,” and the enduring creation of a climate of fear, Greenwald outlined the capabilities of the NSA to store every single call while having“the capability to listen to them at any time,” while speaking via Skype to the Socialism Conference in Chicago, on Friday.

Greenwald was the first journalist to leak Snowden’s documents, having travelled to Hong Kong to review them prior to exposure.

“What we’re really talking about here is a globalized system that prevents any form of electronic communication from taking place without its being stored and monitored by the National Security Agency,” he said.

While he underlined that the NSA are not necessarily listening in on the full billion calls, he pointed out their capability to do so and the lack of accountability with “virtually no safeguards” which the NSA were being held to.

The Guardian journalist made hints that he was sitting on further details of the NSA’s billion-call backlog, which he’d keep under wraps until the documents full publication, which he said was “coming soon.”

He additionally suggested future exposures to come from Snowden, while lauding the sheer risk the whistleblower took in revealing the NSA’s covert surveillance program.

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1 posted on 06/30/2013 12:32:19 PM PDT by opentalk
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2 posted on 06/30/2013 12:33:44 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: opentalk

the ‘and listens’ part kind of scares me..

I can handle my wife doing it, but.. not Big Brother.


3 posted on 06/30/2013 12:33:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: opentalk

The source is “RT”. WTF is that? Looks Russian.


4 posted on 06/30/2013 12:35:46 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: opentalk

I always use the words “bomb,” “assassinate,” “Tea Party,” and “constitution” in all my phone conversations so the NSA wastes their time listening to them.


5 posted on 06/30/2013 12:36:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder where the phrase ‘F U B O’ is filed.


6 posted on 06/30/2013 12:36:40 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

One of my buddies and I always end our phone conversations with “F U B O”.


7 posted on 06/30/2013 12:38:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: opentalk; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ..

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

8 posted on 06/30/2013 12:41:03 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: opentalk

In Orwell’s “1984”, Big Brother wanted you to know you were being watched.


9 posted on 06/30/2013 12:41:40 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Atlas Sneezed ~:” The source is “RT”. WTF is that? Looks Russian.”

rt.com = “Russia Today” , funded by the Russians.
It speaks as the voice of the Kremlin
Sorta like MSNBC is the voice of the White House


10 posted on 06/30/2013 12:44:13 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Atlas Sneezed
The source is “RT”. WTF is that? Looks Russian.

RT is the new name of Russia Today.

You wouldn't seriously expect an American source to be able to publish this would you?

Name an American reporter, editor or media mogul who doesn't have a nice fat file of his or her peccadilloes on tap at "an essay".

11 posted on 06/30/2013 12:45:52 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void
Could you put me on your list please,Nully?
you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...
Come on ,you know that's not my style.......Coffee.... :)
12 posted on 06/30/2013 12:46:51 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: moose07; Darksheare

Unless you are threatening me with Darksheare’s coffee, no deal.


13 posted on 06/30/2013 12:48:26 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: opentalk

I doubt it.


14 posted on 06/30/2013 12:49:24 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: null and void; Darksheare

If that is what it must come to....Darks’s Coffee it will be! :)


15 posted on 06/30/2013 12:50:08 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: null and void

Welcome aboard, brother!


16 posted on 06/30/2013 12:51:16 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: opentalk

And simply by hearing the sound of wet grass, the NSA will be able to railroad you into a murder charge.


17 posted on 06/30/2013 12:51:19 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Greenwald’s a socialist... my guess - the ‘old school’ kind - aka a communist...


18 posted on 06/30/2013 12:51:27 PM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: moose07

Take 2:

Welcome aboard, brother!


19 posted on 06/30/2013 12:51:40 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

LOL, thanks Nully. :)


20 posted on 06/30/2013 12:53:17 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: Chaguito

Who would dare question any “evidence” the “an essay” finds in its files?


21 posted on 06/30/2013 12:53:27 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: opentalk

You mean all those NSA officials lied to Congress? Shocking. Throw them all in jail.


22 posted on 06/30/2013 12:55:08 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: null and void
From article

“Climate of Fear”

… “One of the things that has been most disturbing over the past three to four years has been this climate of fear that has emerged in exactly the circles that are supposed to challenge the government…the real investigative journalists who are at these outlets who do real reporting are petrified of the US government now


23 posted on 06/30/2013 12:56:13 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: GOPJ

Greenwald is ‘real’ liberal. Throw in he is gay, and dislikes big brother.


24 posted on 06/30/2013 1:01:31 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: null and void

Like that one. Don’t want to be on your list. In fact, if you put me on your list I will defenestrate you faster than you can say “All hail god-king Obama!” But I do like that image.


25 posted on 06/30/2013 1:05:25 PM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: NormsRevenge

This last week, Leno had on Wanda Sykes (iirc, she’s the “husband” half to her extra special other) who apparently used to work at NSA. They never said if she was the janitor or what but she was obviously on Leno specifically to down play the NSA scandal. She was so snarky about conspiracy theories and how stupid people are who think the government cared enough about your email to waste its time reading them. Her guest appearance was glaringly staged.


26 posted on 06/30/2013 1:05:30 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

If it is a the derby winner, you will be able to buy it ONE day (Literally one single 24 hour day) on shirt.woot.com

If it comes up for sale would you like me to ping you?


27 posted on 06/30/2013 1:09:10 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

There’s a Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping list? Cool! I’ll turn you into the moderators if you refuse to add me to the list! :-)


28 posted on 06/30/2013 1:12:04 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: opentalk
Recently, Brewster Kahle estimated (blog post, worksheet) that it would cost "only $27M in capital cost, and $2M in electricity and take less than 5,000 square feet of space to store and process all US phonecalls made in a year." That's spare change in NSA's budget.

Brewster Kahle knows a little bit about storing large amounts of data. He's the guy behind the Wayback Machine.

He assumed 300 minutes per person per month, amounting to 272 petabytes a year, costing $100k per petabyte/year for disk storage (the rate the Wayback Machine pays). That seems close. A year and half ago, I bought a 2-terabyte external drive for $200 at the Apple Store. You'd need 500 such drives to store a petabyte.

29 posted on 06/30/2013 1:13:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: null and void; ntnychik; devolve
Why the NSA put a data center in Utah

1.5 million square feet of supercomputers designed to store massive amounts of information secretly obtained from (wherever they choose to stick their proctological probe).


30 posted on 06/30/2013 1:13:40 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: opentalk

Good luck with that ‘revolt is coming...’ thing.


31 posted on 06/30/2013 1:14:42 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: opentalk

Think this was a Leno joke, Obama has changed his name to Snoop Lying.


32 posted on 06/30/2013 1:23:01 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Twotone; Alas Babylon!

Welcome to the list. I think of Alas Babylon! every time I see your screen name.


33 posted on 06/30/2013 1:26:13 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: opentalk

So, where is Trayvon’s last call?


34 posted on 06/30/2013 1:26:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: null and void

No, but thanks for the thought. I don’t get out much anymore, so it would be wasted on me.


35 posted on 06/30/2013 1:30:57 PM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: Paladin2

That’s a damn good question. Zimmerman’s defense lawyers should subpoena the records. We KNOW the NSA has it stored somewhere.

Truthfully, we volunteered for this. When the internet came on we all wanted on it. And now we’re really on it. Google yourself and ask yourself “Who put my info on the internet?”. When cells phones ALL OF A SUDDEN became affordable, we all wanted at least one. And we’ve been “upgrading” ever since and “putting” cameras all over the place. We are now all PERSONS OF INTEREST.


36 posted on 06/30/2013 1:39:40 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: Theoria

I dislike Big Brother too, so that’s enough in common for me.

If we have freedom we can debate the conservative v liberal stuff. Without freedom, all either one of us can do is either bow or die.


37 posted on 06/30/2013 1:43:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Paladin2
So, where is Trayvon’s last call?

You know if it implicated GZ it would be available instantly.

38 posted on 06/30/2013 1:48:30 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (My tagline seems to be missing.......PEOPLE!!!! PEOPLE!!!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

The key thing to remember is that a scoop this large overwhelms the people who have to sort it for what is useful. Computer programs can do some of the sorting, but it always ends up with the human factor limiting what can be actually looked at. the one thing we dealt with when I was in the Army 20+ years ago, was that we were getting more information than we could process and turn into useful intelligence products for the commander.

For example, some of the main messages used by folks who say the US new exactly what the Japanese were doing on the way to Pearl Harbor, were actually decoded many months and even 2 years after Dec 7, 1941. why? The US Army and Navy did not have enough people to break the codes of all the messages that our radio intercept people were copying down.

Of course, the size of the scooper makes control by intimidation the goal, to scare everyone that ‘all collected MAY/MIGHT be read’.


39 posted on 06/30/2013 1:53:39 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: null and void

Interesting! You’ll have to explain the connection. My screen name is for a first kitty - a blue cream female who loved little kids. She was first my oldest sister’s. When she got too old, she moved on to second oldest, skipped #3 & stayed with me. Sisters 3 & 5 were to rambunctious for her.


40 posted on 06/30/2013 1:54:21 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Zer0 would be playing it hisself tot he reporters in the back of AF1.


41 posted on 06/30/2013 2:01:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: moose07; null and void

Summon Coffthulhu?


42 posted on 06/30/2013 2:14:57 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: Twotone; Alas Babylon!

Alas Babylon! was a cold war era post atomic attack novel by Pat Frank, set in central Florida about 1960.

Quite good, it set the bar for the genre.

Twotone is one of the heroes, a negro so nicknamed because one half his face was darker than the other.

FR’s Alas Babylon! took his name from the book.


43 posted on 06/30/2013 2:17:27 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Darksheare; null and void

Hi Darks,
Nothing to worry about, Just had to threaten Nully with your Coffee to be admitted to his Ping list.
He insists on a MOD threat ,not my style, so it was a Coffee threat.
Only one coffee on the Planet would suffice. LOL+

Hows tricks?


44 posted on 06/30/2013 2:18:46 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: null and void

I’ll have to add it to my reading list.


45 posted on 06/30/2013 2:19:21 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: moose07; null and void

“Unngh”tacular.
Gotta head back out into the night until 0430 in the morning.


46 posted on 06/30/2013 2:23:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: PhilDragoo

.
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- We can call it:

“AREA 69”

- in honor or Barack Hussein Obama II

.
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47 posted on 06/30/2013 2:23:37 PM PDT by devolve (----- ----- ----- it not unlegal iffen I do*s it ----- ----- -----)
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To: Twotone

If you can’t find it (and you should be able to, it’s intermittently still in print and is a frequent flier on school reading lists) I’d be happy to loan you my copy.


48 posted on 06/30/2013 2:24:20 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Darksheare

Okay Darks,
I’m right with you! :)


49 posted on 06/30/2013 2:25:06 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: opentalk

Big Brother is listening to you.


50 posted on 06/30/2013 2:25:27 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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