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Everything About The George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin Trial Is Awful
The Houston Chronicle's Texas Sparkle ^ | June 30, 2013 | Kathleen McKinley.

Posted on 06/30/2013 4:15:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everything about the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin trial is awful. Everything. First and foremost we saw the horrific pictures of a dead Trayvon Martin. The news media cameras turned to Trayvon’s parents as they showed them, hoping to catch their grief. I see Trayvon’s mother look away, and my heart breaks into a million pieces for her. I have a 16 year old son. I imagine for a moment it’s him, and I close my eyes with all the anguish I feel in just imagining it. Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.

I’m following it, watching it live, trying to look at it objectively, the way a juror might. I follow along with twitter. Twitter seems to bring out the worst in humanity when it comes to race, on both sides. Trust me, if you are following this trial, don’t follow it on twitter.

Why do we feel a need in this society to tear apart people who are involved in a story? We know how everyone came down on Rachel, the friend of Trayvon who was on the phone with him that night. She was not the most articulate witness. God, I hope she didn’t put her name in the search engine of twitter. And believe me, it was bad stuff from both black and white people. Then there was a picture of the daughter of Zimmerman’s attorney eating ice cream with her Dad celebrating his work that day. Not the best idea, but does that justify photoshopping her hashtags with racial slurs to make her look bad? Because people were retweeting it, and thinking she wrote that. Then there were those trolling her friend’s pictures on Instagram looking for something to embarrass her with.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Florida
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Including the fact that George Zimmerman was ever charged with a crime in the first place, under pressure.
1 posted on 06/30/2013 4:15:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.

If St. Tray would have had parental activity he would not be dead!


2 posted on 06/30/2013 4:20:06 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, 40 days after the fact.

Can’t recall who was trying to say the sybrina wasn’t in the courtroom on Friday, but it was yet another lazy reporter.

After all the attempts by delahole to get his witnesses to suggest GZ wasn’t not harmed enough to warrant self defense and put it out there that he was ‘calm’ afterwards, I couldn’t help but note how very very very calm skittles mom looked as they flashed the photos of him after the fact.

The whole think stinks. My prayers are simply for the truth to revealed.


3 posted on 06/30/2013 4:21:19 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No matter that Rachel’s a liar.

Nothing to see—especially the $$$$ in mommy and daddy’s eyes.

Move along.


4 posted on 06/30/2013 4:21:57 PM PDT by Flintlock ("The redcoats are coming" -- TO SEIZE OUR GUNS!!--Paul Revere)
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To: Conserev1
Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.

NO!!!!...This is a court of LAW.
Their FEELINGS have no bearing in this case.

5 posted on 06/30/2013 4:25:05 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Geeez. Couple of thoughts.

“Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.”

Don’t raise a thug and these things won’t happen.

As for Rachel, don’t be lying in court.


6 posted on 06/30/2013 4:26:15 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Conserev1

I am not concerned with their grief at all. They should have raised their son better than they did.


7 posted on 06/30/2013 4:26:52 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“....don’t forget the grief of these parents.”

Right, the “trail of tears” straight to the bank from book deals and every other commercialization by the parents and their associated thug lawyers.


8 posted on 06/30/2013 4:29:43 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Drug abuse is not a victimless crime ... look at what Obama is doing to the country!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article is BS. Trayvon’s natural parents didn’t even know him let alone give a damn about him. They treated him like a ping-pong ball. The only ‘parent’ who actually cared was his step-mom, Alicia Stanley and Tracy yanked
Trayvon from her care. For Tracy and Sybrina it’s always been about Tracy and Sybrina. For Mr Zimmerman it was an unfortunate encounter with a young on a downward spiral whose ‘natural’ parents had failed him.....big time.


9 posted on 06/30/2013 4:30:41 PM PDT by yadent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

None of these lying animals would give two s**ts if it was Zimmermans brains all over the sidewalk and this was a murder trial for Trayvon whose blood test would show he was jacked on Purple Drank.


10 posted on 06/30/2013 4:33:02 PM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Grief for the parents who were not there? They already got paid. Pulheese!


11 posted on 06/30/2013 4:33:04 PM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s Trayvon’s “creepy ass cracker” RACISM that got him buried six feet under. I guess his parents didn’t do a very good job of educating him on conceal carry laws.. SURPRISE!! Going MMA on an armed person is about as STUPID a thing a person can possibly do.


12 posted on 06/30/2013 4:37:40 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imagine how his parents would be feeling if Martin was on trial for murdering Zimmerman. Would they be screaming he was being railroaded due to racism?


13 posted on 06/30/2013 4:43:31 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rachel Jeantel was 18 years old when she decided to lie to the police and to perjure herself in a deposition in a matter concerning the death of a friend. She then lied to that friend's parents and concealed information from them.

She was old enough to know better. She is also old enough to have learned to speak and write English at a middle school level of proficiency, instead of spending all her spare time getting drunk and high and then driving.

This is an issue of character.

14 posted on 06/30/2013 4:45:42 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What REALLY stinks about this event is that THE NEWS MEDIA WAITED FOR GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S WOUNDS TO HEAL BEFORE PUBLICIZING IT, to give the appearance George's actions were totally unfounded and to portray whites as racists (even though George is actually Hispanic)..
15 posted on 06/30/2013 4:47:23 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Conserev1

“Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.”

I understand the sentiment.

But, somehow they took a break from their grief to trademark some t-shirt slogans.

And, Tracy Martin found time to have his gang tattoo covered over with praying hands.

And, although the amount in the wrongful death settlement is unknown, it is believed that the HOA in the neighborhood agreed to shell out a million bucks to the Martins.

The Martins come from an urban ‘culture’ where kids are a meal ticket. More kids equals more EIC, or more WIC, or more TANF, or more SNAP. And, they have quite naturally perpetuated that in their actions after Martin’s death.

I really would like to empathize with them...but I can’t.


16 posted on 06/30/2013 4:47:43 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.

F*** those sorry excuses for parents. If they had done their job, their pet human wouldn't be six feet under, and they wouldn't be looking sorry while waiting for a monetary settlement.

17 posted on 06/30/2013 4:54:52 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Conserev1

they are not parents, they are bastard spawners


18 posted on 06/30/2013 4:56:16 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: mountn man

You are exactly right. Justice is supposed to be blind, justice should have no knowledge of the ethnicity of those involved, the law is the only thing that should matter in a court. Feelings have no relevance to the law.

Zimmerman is screwed either way, his life is ruined. The perp is dead, I have no tears for him. The facts in this case are if you get on top of someone and bounce his head off the concrete that person is legally entitled to use deadly force to stop the aggression. That is what the law says.


19 posted on 06/30/2013 4:59:08 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. That should be a convenience store, not a Government Agency.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The media have a talent and prediliction for magnifying some events and minimizing others. What a tragedy, grieving parents, tears, commentators, thinkers writing essays, blogs. And some here are buying the melodrama. It sells Coca Cola, latte coffees and small pickup trucks. Well, every day, every night in America dozens, yes, dozens Trayvons are murdered by other Trayvons, with no sensation, with no media coverage, except to list the numbers of dead, and no telebized court trials, if there are trials at all.


20 posted on 06/30/2013 4:59:51 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

There’s a Facebook thing “like” if you think he should be found not guilty.

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


21 posted on 06/30/2013 5:03:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Conserev1
Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.

Are you talking about the parents financially exploiting their son's death or some other parents.

22 posted on 06/30/2013 5:24:54 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

That wasa a quote from the article man!


23 posted on 06/30/2013 5:26:00 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Very good article about who ‘really’ killed Trayvon Martin-—http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/06/30/absolute-power-insufferable-corruption-and-threats-to-stop-sunlight/


24 posted on 06/30/2013 5:27:58 PM PDT by yadent
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Words escape me. Well except for what I typed here.


25 posted on 06/30/2013 5:30:45 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Conserev1
Do you know how to put a quote from an article in italics.
26 posted on 06/30/2013 5:31:22 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: All

I am so upset right now.

This is off topic, but forgive me. The thread was “pulled for review”, so I cannot post there. Some of you might have read it before it was pulled, I hope.

My son, who posted the thread, was “zotted”, and I have no idea why. A few posters were calling him a “blog-pimp” - and he isn’t.

Can anyone explain?


27 posted on 06/30/2013 5:36:35 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Conserev1
Even if you feel Zimmerman should be acquitted, don’t forget the grief of these parents.

Yeah...his papa the Crips gangland veteran is grieving the loss of his most promising jewel thief. And his mother who had kicked his drug-dealing, thieving ass out of her house, is grieving with $1 million BLACKmailed out of Zimmerman's condo association, though they had ZERO liability for her son getting what was coming to him.

28 posted on 06/30/2013 5:37:22 PM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: jacquej
"Can anyone explain?"

Not without getting zotted.

29 posted on 06/30/2013 5:39:58 PM PDT by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Godebert

ROTFLMAO!

Thanks for the humor. At least I hope it was humor.


30 posted on 06/30/2013 5:45:36 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: Uncle Chip
Do you know how to put a quote from an article in italics.

Check your freeper mail.

31 posted on 06/30/2013 5:47:24 PM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: Bronzewound

Thanx == got it

Check yours


32 posted on 06/30/2013 5:49:02 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
That's retarded

Maybe he can't read italics.

33 posted on 06/30/2013 5:53:33 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree, not for the author’s reasons.


34 posted on 06/30/2013 6:00:13 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: kaboom
By the time we're done with him he will be able to read French, German, Italics and maybe even "curses".
35 posted on 06/30/2013 6:00:35 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: wideawake

You nailed it.


36 posted on 06/30/2013 6:24:34 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Conserev1

I would grieve for the parents if they were caring parents.

They are clearly not.


37 posted on 06/30/2013 6:38:06 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Including the fact that George Zimmerman was ever charged with a crime in the first place, under pressure.

Maybe he can host a cooking show after this is all over...

38 posted on 06/30/2013 6:38:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

In Peru?


39 posted on 06/30/2013 6:40:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: lacrew
More kids equals more EIC, or more WIC, or more TANF, or more SNAP.

And LESS in our wallets!

WHY do we CONTINUE to allow it?

Are we so STUPID not to realize you get MORE of what you SUBSIDIZE???

40 posted on 06/30/2013 6:41:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hulka

That is for sure. He has been worth a lot more to them dead than he was alive.


41 posted on 06/30/2013 6:42:11 PM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
St Skittles was thug and it was just a matter of time before the thug had an altercation with someone with a gun.

He thought GZ was just another thug he could take. His inclination was to fight and not retreat.

He's 17 and a young adult. His culture failed him and he is dead from his own actions.

42 posted on 06/30/2013 7:01:31 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: jacquej
Can anyone explain?

Not sure if it was the same thread, but there was a thread yesterday (or maybe this morning ?), IIRC, that the poster was accused of being a blog-pimp.

The reasons:

It was posted by the owner of the website (the blog)

It was an excerpt (did not contain all the article)

The 'poster' was not responding to anyone's comments.

This 'activity' happens all the time. People try to get people to come to their website so they get hits (i.e. more money).

This is tantamount to FREE ADVERTISING and Jim Robinson doesn't allow ADVERTISING nor accept ADVERTISING for income purposes.

It may be that your son was didn't understand all the 'rules' and was doing what he did in innocence. Perhaps he should have just 'asked' what he was doing wrong. (if he did anything wrong) . I don't know what thread for sure you mean, so I may be way off base.

If your son has a blog, the 'unwritten' rules are that you need to post all of the content of the article, so that readers don't HAVE to go to your BLOG just so you can get hits and they can finish reading the article. If you don't do that, then you are quickly rebuffed and your thread can be removed.

I hope this helps.

43 posted on 06/30/2013 7:39:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Something else I would like to mention about the MEDIA.

The following photo is not a picture of Travyon Martin.

It is a picture of someone else in a hoodie, but a 'youthful' picture of Trayvon was photoshopped in and spread throughout the MSM.


44 posted on 06/30/2013 7:46:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2; IChing

Well, the poster was IChing, (my 50 yr old son) but he does not have a blog or any financial interest in one).

He posts to a blog, maybe once a week, and then posts here, because he (probably idealistically) thought Free Republic netizens might be interested.

He always answered to his posts, and offered reasonable comments.

I would have to go back and check to see if he posted the entire content of his articles, every time, as far as I know. If he didn’t, it might have been that he was concerned about the complicated “excerpting” internet rules that confuse us all.

Many newcomers to FR get tangled up in the arcane rule history of FR, and I do worry that we sometimes might be just a tad-bit paranoid in our rush to quick judgement.

That said, obviously we must be on guard for trolls, blog-pimpers, infiltrators, and the usual - NSA recording our every keyboarded word.

I have been on this forum for many years, and as far as I understand, he violated no rules. He only posted to articles that he had written, his own opinion on currant news items of conservative interest.

I guess the only legitimate criticism that could be lodged against him is that he posted in the wrong category. Some Freepers may not consider tapes posted on the net by someone else (other than Rachel Jeantel’s voice) recorded by Crump as not being worthy of “breaking news”.

How are we to know what is considered “breaking news” by the mods?

I am getting really tired of all this, and it has seriously dampened my enthusiasm for this website. That said, he has been re-instated, after review by the mods, but I am still so very saddened at what has happened to a forum that was always my homepage.

My thanks for your clear explanation, FRiend.

That said, it is time for this li’l ol’ lady to retire for the evening. I want to be alert in the morning to see the Zimmerman trial, for I find it very important for the future of justice in our beloved land, and worthy of “breaking news”.


45 posted on 06/30/2013 9:09:38 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: UCANSEE2

Word I had on that old pic was that his skin was lightened a lot because the shadows of the hoodie made him look less cherubic.


46 posted on 06/30/2013 9:22:29 PM PDT by IChing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have you guys SEEN this?? Rachel Jeantel is NOT witness #8!!

It’s a different girl’s voice in the first interview!!

http://www.re-newsit.com/2013/06/how-many-witness-8s-are-there-in.html

I can barely fathom the treachery here. HUGE bombshell of prosecutorial misconduct, unless I’m missing something. Fake/alibi witness used....

Remember, RJ did talk on the stand about many 3-way calls with others when she and Trayvon were on the phone...


47 posted on 06/30/2013 9:23:43 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
Word I had on that old pic was that his skin was lightened a lot because the shadows of the hoodie made him look less cherubic.

What color hoodie was Trayvon wearing at the 7-11 ?

48 posted on 06/30/2013 9:26:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2; IChing

Sure wish we had an edit button here!

The post that got him “zotted” today was to a totally different site, not one to which he had ever posted an article.

A few Freepers ganged up on him for maybe three or four earlier posts, and some of us old-timers were appalled at the way he was treated by them.

Fortunately, the post was reviewed, and he has been re-instated.

Please keep your eagle eye out for him, and stop this nonsense if it starts up again. He has served his country faithfully for many years, and does not deserve this treatment from some among us.

For those of you who have served, you will know what I mean by the below -

I say again:

My son does not have a blog. He posts his online opinions to a blog, where he is a “guest”, because he thought they might be of interest to the rest of us, and these are in the MSM breaking news stories of the day.

If the Zimmerman trial is not on our list of breaking news regarding the failure of our judicial system, the we Freepers are just “spring peepers”, in a big pot of slowly warming water, too dumb to jump out.

Good night, all. Need some shut-eye before I see which way the temperature goes in tomorrow morning’s water bath.


49 posted on 06/30/2013 9:27:50 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: IChing

I listened to three different recordings today.

It was very difficult to determine if it was or wan’t Rachel.

The real question is, who is DEE DEE. Regardless to what Rachel says, her nickname isn’t DEE DEE.

BUT... there is a DEE DEE involved in the Brandy Green/Tracy Martin home (used loosely). I think I found out who she is.

I could tell you (and will if you can’t find it) but It’s more fun if you find out yourself. Here are the hints.

Who is Brandy Green? Why did she only appear in one press conference, at the very beginning , and hasn’t been heard from since?

Was she living at the Condo with Tracy Martin ? Who else lived at that Condo ?

That should be enough.


50 posted on 06/30/2013 9:32:06 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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