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Pennsylvania hospitals' ban on hiring smokers prompts debate
FOX News ^ | June 28, 2013 | Reuters

Posted on 06/30/2013 4:32:19 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

With just days to go before two of Philadelphia's most prestigious hospitals refuse to hire smokers, the ban has relit a debate about the wisdom of regulating workers' behavior away from the workplace.

Both the highly rated University of Pennsylvania Health System, which includes the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, as well as the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, named by US News and World Report as America's top children's hospital this year, will join dozens of hospitals across the country when they implement their policy on Monday, July 1.

The move has generated criticism among civil liberties activists, hospital employees and even doctors who fear that smokers will lie about their habit - and therefore become less likely to seek help in stopping it.

"It's not all slopes that are slippery, but this one really is," said Lewis Maltby, a former American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who now runs the National Workrights Institute in Princeton, N.J. He is critical of an employer's intrusion into the private time of employees.

"What you do in your own home on your own time is none of your boss's business unless it affects your work," he said.

Maltby noted that drinking alcohol, eating lots of junk food and not exercising are also bad for you. "Virtually everything you do in your private life affects your health," he said, wondering what other kinds of hiring restrictions could come to pass.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; discrimination; employment; healthnazis; hospitals; nannystate; philadelphia; scam; smokers; smokingbans; smokingiscool
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hospitals should ban hiring anyone that does not eat a government approved diet.


21 posted on 06/30/2013 6:18:47 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Smokers also pay a higher premium for life insurance.


22 posted on 06/30/2013 6:29:45 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Welcome to the new prohibition.


23 posted on 06/30/2013 6:35:20 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Gay State Conservative

I volunteer at a hospital. There’s an inner open ait atriem , which is reserved for smokers. Hospital employees have their job unit on their scrubs. It is just bizarre to see RESPIRATORY THERAPISTS puffing away madly..


24 posted on 06/30/2013 7:34:46 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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To: ken5050
It is just bizarre to see RESPIRATORY THERAPISTS puffing away madly..

I worked at a large hospital for 20 years.It had a no smoking policy and,as a result,you'd see a few folks outside...summer or winter...smoking away.But at my hospital almost none of *my* coworkers smoked...it was mainly the lower echelon workers who did.

25 posted on 06/30/2013 7:46:44 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


26 posted on 06/30/2013 7:50:37 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Gator113
Hospitals should ban hiring anyone that does not eat a government approved diet.

That's off the table now...
Obesity is now classified as a disease.

Not PC to differentiate weight ...don't even think about not hiring a 'diseased' obese person - that's discrimination.

27 posted on 06/30/2013 7:57:51 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FreeRepublic Cookbooks 2011 & 2012 - Click Profile)
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To: libertarian27

;>)


28 posted on 06/30/2013 8:15:38 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: factoryrat

Great post. There are surely more we can add to the list of ‘do not hire’. It’s become a real challenge to figure out how all these pieces are supposed to fall together.


29 posted on 06/30/2013 8:48:53 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Smokers are under-represented, and deserve a DOJ Lawsuit to force more smokers to be hired (Affirmative Action for Smokers)

Also, Civil Rights Violation in that Smokers are being treated Un-Equally under the 14th Amendment, which is yet ANOTHER violation of their civil rights.

After all, we can't discriminate against Sex Deviates (fags and dykes), but yet we can discriminate against Smokers?

How "fair" is this?

30 posted on 06/30/2013 8:52:39 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Gay State Conservative
But smokers die earlier so they don't require as much care as people who continue to drink booze.
Or people who take baths and fall down, or fall riding bicycles, etc.

So they all should be charged more according to your standards.
So after you dissect everyone's lifestyle, who gets charged less?

And then there's the people who smell third hand smoke, triple charge them!

31 posted on 06/30/2013 9:04:59 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

and it began with , we are just going to put this little warning label on the package.


32 posted on 07/01/2013 4:31:04 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/everyday_economics/2003/08/why_do_gays_smoke_so_much.html

What are they going to do with the sodomites?


33 posted on 07/01/2013 4:34:17 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: factoryrat; Conspiracy Guy

Unfortunately, there are too few business/entrepreneurs vs. low-info voters to tell gov’t to PISS OFF.

This is the same that will happen w/ O’Care; when all the employers dump their coverage for the exchanges. And I will smile with glee on what they have allowed to happen to themselves....poor bastards.

Not go down this path? We’ve been down this path for quite a few years....licenses, taxes, regulations, fines, EEOC, OSHA, etc. Yeah, benefits were their fault...gov’t compounded the problem w/ 3rd party pay, tax benefits for employer. Just look at the smoking/carry bans, like gov’t OWNED the business to make choices FOR them!

At least re: hiring, the employer/business has EVERY right to whom they wish, and why. I, on the other had, have the ability to (not) patronize said business as well.


34 posted on 07/01/2013 5:27:11 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“,giving smokers fewer sick days.”

Huh? That makes absolutely no sense.

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35 posted on 07/01/2013 9:46:58 AM PDT by Mears
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To: cripplecreek
Our local hospital evicts patients for smoking.

Cool! I broke several ribs in several places in my upper back last August and could not escape from the hospital for love nor money.

Although I hope nothing like that ever happens again, now I know about a possible escape mechanism.

These people are Nazis.

36 posted on 07/01/2013 3:42:41 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: PeterPrinciple
What are they going to do with the sodomites?

Nothing.

That is a socially-acceptable vice.

37 posted on 07/01/2013 3:45:15 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

I remember when you could smoke in hospital rooms.

Last time I was in the hospital there was still a smoking area in the cafeteria area and I had a whole stable of smoking nurses who were more than happy to wheel me down for a smoke.


38 posted on 07/01/2013 3:46:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Some lifestyles are managed, some are allowed to thrive. There’s no logic to it as the homosexual lifestyle is as deadly as smoking.


39 posted on 07/02/2013 5:06:15 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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