Skip to comments.Polygamists Celebrate Supreme Courtís Marriage Ruling: "Nuclear family not the majority anymore"
Posted on 06/30/2013 7:59:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The Supreme Courts rulings in favor of same-sex marriage Wednesday were greeted with excitement by polygamists across the country, who viewed the gay rights victory as a crucial step toward the countrys inevitable acceptance of plural marriage.
Anne Wilde, a vocal advocate for polygamist rights who practiced the lifestyle herself until her husband died in 2003, praised the courts decision as a sign that societys stringent attachment to traditional family values is evolving.
I was very glad The nuclear family, with a dad and a mom and two or three kids, is not the majority anymore, said Wilde. Now its grandparents taking care of kids, single parents, gay parents. I think people are more and more understanding that as consenting adults, we should be able to raise a family however we choose.
Were very happy with it, said Joe Darger, a Utah-based polygamist who has three wives. I think [the court] has taken a step in correcting some inequality, and thats certainly something thats going to trickle down and impact us.
Noting that the court found the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional because the law denied marriage rights to a specific class of people, Darger said, Our very existence has been classified as criminal and I think the government needs to now recognize that we have a right to live free as much as anyone else.
Gay rights advocates have long sought to distance themselves from polygamists in order to undermine social conservatives slippery-slope argument, as articulated on Twitter Wednesday by talk radio host Bryan Fischer: The DOMA ruling has now made the normalization of polygamy, pedophilia, incest and bestiality inevitable. Matter of time.
But polygamists in the United States, where bigamy is a crime, have taken cues from the marriage equality movement, and the few public champions of the lifestyle have deliberately positioned themselves as libertarian-minded gay rights advocates as well. Following gay rights activists lead, polygamist families like the Browns, with their TLC reality show Sister Wives, and the Dargers, who came out with a book last year have come forward to convince the American public that their lifestyle can be wholesome and normal.
The key difference in their missions, Wilde said, is that gays want legal marriage and polygamists dont they just want their lifestyle to be decriminalized.
If you legalize plural marriage, that means the government is going to control certain aspects of it, Wilde reasoned. They might say, you have to make so much money, you cant have any more than four like it says in the Koran.
Still, she said the courts decision would only help polygamists cause.
Im not a fortune-teller, but it seems like if more people are accepting of gay marriage, it would follow that polygamist marriage wouldnt be criticized quite so much.
But some polygamists were trying to temper their enthusiasm Wednesday.
I do see this as a positive step toward recognizing the civil rights of the plural culture to make their lifestyle choices without being branded as criminals, said Marlyne Hammon, a practicing polygamist. We are still in the trenches facing the reality of stubborn, unjust laws, so we are cautious about breaking out the champagne just yet.
I can’t wait to hear the homosexualists explain why polygamy is not OK.
The sheep appear nervous.
Boy, this slope seems to be on the slippery side.
They will explain why it is okay...
I don’t think so. They will see it as empowering heterosexual males.
The slope is more like a cliff.
Any word from NAMBLA yet?
I guess narcissists and multiple-personality-disorder people can marry themselves, too.
It will allow them to have multiple spouses, too...
They will be lining up for it...
Got that on a news story today “they were not born that way”, “it’s not the same”.
You mean multiple sex partners? They have that anyway.
It’s not the same. The big deal is having it legalized. To shove it in the mainstream society’s face. To make the mainstream society support it as a legitimate marriage with benefits.
“It is everlasting wrath. It would be dreadful to suffer this fierceness and wrath of Almighty God one moment; but you must suffer it to all eternity. There will be no end to this exquisite horrible misery. When you look forward, you shall see a long for ever, a boundless duration before you, which will swallow up your thoughts, and amaze your soul; and you will absolutely despair of ever having any deliverance, any end, any mitigation, any rest at all. You will know certainly that you must wear out long ages, millions of millions of ages, in wrestling and conflicting with this almighty merciless vengeance; and then when you have so done, when so many ages have actually been spent by you in this manner, you will know that all is but a point to what remains. So that your punishment will indeed be infinite. Oh, who can express what the state of a soul in such circumstances is! All that we can possibly say about it, gives but a very feeble, faint representation of it; it is inexpressible and inconceivable: For ‘who knows the power of God’s anger?’” - Jonathan Edwards
Didn’t take long, did it?
they are the majority, the majority just got bitch-slapped by an imperial judiciary of five liberal judges.
Never does take long for the vultures to descend upon a rotting corpse... What is happening to our country?!
Well, let's see: The Utah Mormons said in 1830 (in Book of Mormon)...
...that polygamy was an "abomination"
...Then, the following year, when Joseph Smith's schemes started in on bedding a 16 yo housekeeper...polygamy secretly "evolved" to being an "in" thing...
...Then, Smith began greatly accruing multiple wives in the early 1840s...
...and getting some of his fellow leaders to do the same...
...and then polygamy "evolved" within Mormondom so that between the 1850s and 1880s, Lds leaders were expected to have multiple wives -- touting that it was a condition of the highest degree of afterlife glory...
...and then the "brakes" began to be applied to Mormon polygamy in 1890 -- de-evolving...
...and by the early 1900s, few such unions were being secretly solemnized by Lds leaders anymore...
By 1945, the last MAINSTREAM Lds polygamous "prophet" had passed on...
And polygamy for the mainstream Mormons had been fully relegated to (a) the afterlife; and (b) When the Mormon Jesus returns.
And so...just because groups like the mainstream and non-mainstream Mormons have attacked in ALL THREE last centuries (21st, 20th, 19th) the institution of monogamy, that we have to let the marriage evolutionists dictate to everybody else what marriage is?
Here is the libertarian position on all this gay marriage, homosexual military, homosexual immigration, adoption, polygamy stuff.
It is why you are hearing more and more GOP rinos going libertarian.
1.3 Personal Relationships (libertarian)
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the governments treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.
Polygamy would be bad and in many ways much worse than homosexual marriages.
Polygamy would turn our country from a Constitutional Republic to a Patriarchal Oligarchy of sorts complete with aristocrats and peasants.