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1 posted on 06/30/2013 9:11:28 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look Brother this is a matter of belief.
Christians tend to turn the other cheek and Muslims tend to lop folks heads off.
As a Christian, I won’t tolerate it.
They can bitch all day, but when you attack us we will fight your *** and I will see it through.

Muslims think they speak for Allah.
I would never presume to speak for God

But you Jihadis are making a mighty enemy.


2 posted on 06/30/2013 9:20:15 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Trolly Square shootings aren’t often mentioned out of political concerns . Likely the Boston killings won’t be so easily forgotten.


3 posted on 06/30/2013 9:21:56 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We continue to allow these people into our country while knowing that they breed like flies. Anyone here ever heard of a “political plurality.”


4 posted on 06/30/2013 9:23:26 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

Yeah.

Imagine 100,000 muslim jihadis here on H-1B, L-1, refugee and expired student visas working in power plants, fertilizer factories, refineries, chemical manufacturers, hospitals, utilities, dams, pharmaceutical formulators, web hub server farms, municipal water supply facilities, sewage treatment plants, meat packing and food processing plants, driving HazMat trucks...

Remember when the Vietcong took over Huế? They were able to round up every government official, march them all off into the jungle and kill every last one of them in one single night.

They knew exactly where they lived, who they visited, where they shopped and where they ate dinner, and when.

How you ask?

The cabbies had been providing the Vietcong daily reports on their every move for years in advance.

Soooo, where do most of the cabbies in your berg come from? In Washington DC, it's Somalia...

Just because we've forgotten the lessons of Huế and the lessons of the Sepoy Rebellion's "The Perfect Day" doesn't mean our enemies have.

Wiki seems mute on The Perfect Day. That information used to be readily available there. Now it's barely mentioned.

And if the amnesty bill passes, border enforcement is suspended for three years!
5 posted on 06/30/2013 9:30:08 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: OwenKellogg; bunster; thouworm; maggief; onyx; AllAmericanGirl44; ConservativeMan55; crosslink; ...

Anyone wanting on or off this list...well, you know.


6 posted on 06/30/2013 9:37:34 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My bad, it's only 2 1/2 years.

Amnesty to Suspend Immigration Enforcement for 2.5 Years

*sigh*

8 posted on 06/30/2013 9:38:09 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Coming soon on TLC, “Explody the Good Muslim” weekdays.


9 posted on 06/30/2013 9:39:15 PM PDT by conservativeimage.com (I don't blame Obama. I blame America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We should tell Putin he can do what needs to be done visa via Chechnya and look the other way when he does it.


10 posted on 06/30/2013 9:41:12 PM PDT by Waywardson (I did not vote for that pro-abortionist candidate!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is just what the Alinsky crowd wants us to believe; that Ilam is inevitable. I would say a nation with a 76% Chistian population may not agree with tt and call them on their even if it comes down to use of force to prevent it. I’m tired of turning the other cheek until its crimson. I think someone told us to sell our cloak and buy a sword too.


12 posted on 06/30/2013 9:42:11 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My humble predictions:

1. First, read all of Mark Steyn.

2. In the last five years Obama has used American dollars and intelligence to help muslim extremists overthrow Egypt and now Syria. He has allowed Iran to continue their development of nuclear capabilities. By 2014 Israel will be completely surrounded by muslims extremists.

a. Israel will be attacked by nuclear weapons and will cease to exist. The US will do nothing to stop it. By 2016 any new President will be facing a unified Middle East controlled by Iran and Saudi Arabia.

b. Millions of Israeli survivors will be herded into concentrations camps and exterminated.

c. Russia will back this play with nuclear power.

d. China will sit on the sidelines for the time being as they watch the value of their bonds and investments in the US disappear.

e. The Democrats will win the 2016 Presidency and every Presidency race until the final fall of America. They will have destroyed the borders, destroyed the economy, destroyed most of the Anglo-Saxons left living. Conservatives will be forced to wear a branding and will be exterminated in camps set up around the uS.

f. The Supreme Court will be abolished as will the House of Representatives. A non-functioning Democrat Senate will rubber stamp the Democrat dictator's rulings and decrees.

g. By 2020 Sharia law will rule America. There will be no Christian churches or clergy allowed to exist. Underground churches will be publicly executed.

h. The Constitution will have ceased to exist. Muslims will have taken complete control of America. All Conservative and Leftist media will have been executed on television.

i. Canada will surrender to it's new neighbor to the South, North Arabia. Resistance will be futile and resistors executed.

j. At this stage China will be forced to wage all out nuclear war against Muslim Europe, Muslim Middle East, Muslim Africa and North Arabia.

k. The world population by 2025 will have been reduced to under one billion alive. Close to to 7 Billion people will die between then and now at the hands of the muslims and Chinese.

l. By 2030 the world will be highly radioactive with death everywhere. A small band of anarchists will still be living in hopes of a Second Coming of Obama. Fade to black.

14 posted on 06/30/2013 10:07:26 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The elites of this country and within the Fedzilla are more than happy to welcome them in with open arms.


18 posted on 06/30/2013 10:23:55 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Though much of the region remains Christian today, a sizable portion is Muslim, including Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albania, Dagestan, and, of course, Chechnya.

That's a broad brush.

Bosnia and Herzegovina has swathes of Croatian and Serbian densities which are not Moslem

Albania proper (outside Kosovo) is Moslem in name only -- most follow what their former king Zog preached "whatever your faith, your religion is Albanianism" and the number of those calling themselves Moslem drops each census. in Albania-proper the urge has been since the 20s to distance themselves from Turks and so the rejection of Islam

In Kosovo that's a different "other" -- Christian Serbs. Remember that Serbs/Croats are Slavs while Albanians are not, so any more reason to distance themselves from "the other" is taken

In the case of Dagestan and Chechnya this is very apparent -- there were inroads of Christianity (thanks to two ancient Christian states of Georgia (Sakartvelo) and Armenia (Hayestan) - the names in the () are what they call themelves in their own languages

Anyway, Christianity moved into these north caucasian peoples and they were still heavily pagan/shamanistic until the 18th century when the Russians started moving in (more about this in the next post) and to prevent their Russification to a large extent they adopted Islam -- Sufiism. They were radicalised during the 19th century

24 posted on 06/30/2013 10:54:20 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros>Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv
About Russification

Note that I don't subscribe to the theory of those who are still hung-up about the cold war and persist in seeing Russia as the evil empire. I believe that we have a lot more in common and should be wary allies -- and I also agree with the Russians that Sunni Islam is a danger and it's better to egg on the Shias to fight Sunnis

Anyway, back to topic :) what we call "Russification" is really "Muscofication" -- the ancient East Slavic "confederation" of Kievan Rus was not Muscowite in temperament or culture. It was more decentralized and less autocratic and it was heavily influenced by both Byzantine and Germanics through Poland while maintaining it's separate status.

But then the Mongols came and conquered and disrupted the state forever

As Mongol power waned, the north-western part of Kievan Rus came under Lithuanian control and then Polish (under the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth), the southern part was first depopulated and then came under Polish, Crimean Tatar and Cossack control with an amalgamated culture and the north-eastern portion came under Muscowite control when the Grand Duke of Moscow agreed to becoming the tax collector for the Mongol Khagan.

It is my opinion that the Muscowite tendency for autocratic rule derives from the Mongols and many Russian historians nowadays look favorably on Mongol rule and see the Russian Empire as an extension of the Mongol -- and Moscow's GRand Duke came up with the idea of "collecting of the Rus" i.e. that it was Moscow's manifest destiny to collect the Rus lands

this had an additional dimension added in when Constantinople fell. Now the Grand Dukes of Moscows called themseves Caesar's (Tsar) and took on the mantle of war against Islam and also collecting ALL the Orthodox people together. They maintained this belief until 1918 and arguably it remained even in Soviet minds (not of the Orthodox peoples but conquering Istanbul and Eastern/Central Europe)

In the meanwhile the BiałoRussians (white Russians or Belarussians) developed more "democratically" under Lithuanian rule which was hardly as strong as Moscow's and then in the highly decentralized Polish-Lithuanian state.

The Ukrainians (or Ruthenians as they initially were called -- btw "Ruthene" is the Latin version of "Rusyn" or "Russian) developed even more "democratically" as they were a frontier state -- U kraina in Slavic languages means "on the edge"

Moscow spent the 1600s battling to the east taking over vast Tatar Khaganates and then turned West to wrest the rest of the Rus lands from the "Germanics" and their "Polish subordinates". They succeeded in 1793 when Poland disappeared from the map

it was during this same period that they pushed themselves south into the Caucasus

Mid-1800s with the rise of nationalism inEurope where France attempted to destroy non-French languages (like Breton, Gascon, Corsican, etc) and the English did the same to Cornish, Manx and attempted to do the same to Gaelic, Scottish and Welsh), the Russians did the same to their extended empire.

pre-1848 to be "Russian" was to be a subject of the Tsar, so whatever your nationality was ok.

But post-1848, the focus was on Russification -- you had to speak Russian only and be Russian Orthodox.

This was the same period when other nationalities were doing the same, so the Russians were not doing something unusual, the only difference was that thanks to Russia's dismembering of the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth and it's conquering of the Crimean Tatars and the Caucasus it suddenly had an influx of non-Russian, non-Russian orthodox. It had Catholic Poles and Lithuanians, Calvinist/Lutheran Baltic Germans, Mennonite Volga Germans, Armenian Orthodox Armenians, Georgian Orthodox Georgians, Moslem Tatars, and loads and load of Jews (the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth in 1792 had more than 60% of world Jewry) and then Finns, Eneks, etc. etc. as well as the descendents of the Alani -- the Ossetes

The only way to manage this chaos was to impose one-nation, one-god as the Ming and then the Qing had done in China

This of course exacerbated nations who wanted to be independent -- if you lose your language and your religion, you then lose your identity (see the Belarussians and many eastern Ukrainians or see the Scottish today)

The way to extract the Chechens from islam is to do the same thing that we should do to the Berbers --> show them that their identity is being swamped by Islam (which promotes "Arabization") and that the way out is to reject Islam.

I propose the way is to push the ancient Church of the East (the Assyrian Church either the Chaldean Catholic or the Assyrian Church) to convert the Chechens and preach in their own languages (the Chechens speak a few languages and the Dagestanis have over 70 I believe)

25 posted on 06/30/2013 11:19:38 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros>Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Instead of IMPRISONING THESE TERRORISTS after warning
from Russia and their parent ... the USA under
the Tyrant Obama continued going after the genitals
of American innocent children at airports, and taking
genital photos of adults in airports of innocent America
women, while leaving the border WIDE OPEN and then ignoring
that the Tsarnaev Brothers HAD NO PASSPORT on entering.

THESE MURDERS were PLANNED at the White House and
enabled by the DHS and the terrorists protected by
Holder (who sent a Magistrate Judge fresh from Egypt
to SHUT THEM UP).


30 posted on 07/01/2013 3:43:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: All

we citizens are not really allowed to do much about anything.


32 posted on 07/01/2013 5:16:53 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Coming? It’s already here.


37 posted on 07/01/2013 8:28:41 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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