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New Book Finds Ties Between Nazis and Hollywood
INN ^ | 7/1/2013, 4:45 AM | Elad Benari

Posted on 06/30/2013 10:22:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai

A soon-to-be released book claims that the Hollywood film industry had close ties to the Third Reich, the Yisrael Hayom daily reported on Sunday.

Hollywood’s major studios not only passively accepted Nazi censorship, but actively collaborated with Hitler’s propaganda machine to protect their interests in the German market, according to the book written by Harvard University doctoral student Ben Urwand. …

“Hollywood [in the 1930s] is not just collaborating with Nazi Germany; it’s also collaborating with Adolf Hitler, the person and human being,” Urwand, 35, was quoted as having said in an interview with The New York Times.

The fact that the Nazi regime intervened in the film industry during Hollywood’s golden age is known and even documented, but Urwand suggests another story, based on American and German archival material, that the relationship between Hollywood and the Third Reich was deep and long-lasting. This warm relationship continued until the beginning of the 1940s. …

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History
KEYWORDS: hollyweird; hollywood; hollywoodnazis; liberalagenda; nazis
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1 posted on 06/30/2013 10:22:56 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Duh!

2 posted on 06/30/2013 10:27:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: Olog-hai
"specific Jews in the movie business made decisions to work with Nazi leaders,"

...in exchange for the implied promise that they'd be eaten last.
3 posted on 06/30/2013 10:33:11 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Olog-hai

Trying to compose a shocked face.......

Trying.......

Trying........

Nope. No shocked face.


4 posted on 06/30/2013 10:34:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Olog-hai

Hollyweird has always loved leftist “ism” politics. Fascism, Communism, Totalitarianism. Everything but pro-Freedom.


5 posted on 06/30/2013 10:36:41 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Olog-hai

Nazi influence in Hollywood made no difference.


6 posted on 06/30/2013 10:37:25 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Olog-hai
It would be illuminating to learn whether the likes of Sean Penn's father who collaborated with communists throughout his career in Hollywood also collaborated with the Nazis, at least during the period of the Molotov/Ribbentrop pact.


7 posted on 06/30/2013 10:38:59 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Olog-hai

Ya don’t say...


8 posted on 06/30/2013 10:43:06 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Fight with your head high, or grovel with your head low.)
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To: laplata

No difference in what?


9 posted on 06/30/2013 10:46:57 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nathanbedford

What would “it” illuminate? Just wondering, nathanbedford.


10 posted on 06/30/2013 10:52:07 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Olog-hai

I didn’t express that very well. They made no difference in influencing public opinion or government policy.

The Bunds were more influential but they disappeared after Pearl Harbor.


11 posted on 06/30/2013 10:55:28 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
It's been said before, but someone, (I forget who) spilled the beans that the greatest power that Communists had in Hollywood wasn't making PRO-_Commie movies, but in PREVENTING ANTI-Commie movies from being made.

Frankly I find the idea that Hollywood ever made pro-Nazi movies laughable. Even in the '40s they were making fun of Hitler.

Like Chaplin's The Great Dictator. 1940.

By the 50's they were making very non-subtle anti-McCarthy movies.

Hell, even Woody Allen was making them in the 60s/70s (The Front).

And even in the 2000s. Goodnight and Good Luck.

I might have been one of about 10 people who found the Edward R. Murrow character unsympathetic. Despite all the awards it won.

He says: "Everyone KNOWS where I stand on communism".

Uh, NO Edward I DON'T. I still don't.

Yeah you hated McCarthy, but that doesn't mean you're some anti-Commie.

12 posted on 06/30/2013 10:58:08 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: Olog-hai
It's interesting that Hollywood's relationship with the Nazis has recently come under scrutiny by historians. Just a few weeks ago, Hollywood and Hitler 1933-1939 by Thomas Patrick Doherty (New York: Columbia University Press, 2013) hit the bookstores.
13 posted on 06/30/2013 11:14:37 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

There’s a film in the works on the Nazi/IBM collaboration as well.


14 posted on 06/30/2013 11:21:00 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: boop
It's been said before, but someone, (I forget who) spilled the beans that the greatest power that Communists had in Hollywood wasn't making PRO-_Commie movies, but in PREVENTING ANTI-Commie movies from being made

Some great anti-commie books that would probably have been Hollywood blockbusters had they been made:


15 posted on 06/30/2013 11:25:42 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

well documented involvement of not only Nazi’s but communists with Hollywood during WW2 in the book, “The Dangerous Otto Katz: The Many Lives of a Soviet Spy “

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9142314-the-dangerous-otto-katz


16 posted on 06/30/2013 11:30:11 PM PDT by llevrok (We are in a new Cold War. At home.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
ism!


17 posted on 06/30/2013 11:30:51 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Olog-hai

Not to forget Joseph Kennedy Sr’s involvement with the Nazi’s pre-war.


18 posted on 06/30/2013 11:31:45 PM PDT by llevrok (We are in a new Cold War. At home.)
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"Not to forget Joseph Kennedy Sr’s involvement with the Nazi’s pre-war."

Yes, I made this point on another board. Nobody believed it. Then that story recently came out about JFK "admiring" Hitler. Now that I find hard to believe, because JFK fought the Nazis in WWII.

His dad wasn't so picky though, on who he did business with.

With liberals, as long as it involves enriching oneself even with anti-Americans, or criminals, all is forgiven.

And forgotten.

Ref: George Soros.

I think the only reason he hasn't been strung up is that he pays handsomely for good press.

19 posted on 06/30/2013 11:41:31 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: boop

FDR brought Joe Kennedy, Sr. home from Britain because as US Ambassador to the UK, he showed sympathy for the Nazis.

JFK didn’t fight the Nazis. He was in the Pacific. But didn’t JFK have an affair in England with a German girl before he went into the US Navy?


20 posted on 07/01/2013 1:25:01 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Robert Clary, the guy who played Frenchie in Hogan’s Heroes was in a concentration camp. I watched a documentary about Hollywood’s depiction of the Holocaust, and he was interviewed.


21 posted on 07/01/2013 1:35:52 AM PDT by gattaca ("Empty heads are fond of long titles" Old German Proverb.)
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To: gattaca

All the men who play the main German soldiers (Col. Klink, Gen. Burkholder, Major Hochstetter and Sergeant Schultz) in the show are Jewish.


22 posted on 07/01/2013 1:47:01 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t know that.


23 posted on 07/01/2013 1:48:26 AM PDT by gattaca ("Empty heads are fond of long titles" Old German Proverb.)
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To: Olog-hai
I find this rather hard to believe since many German actors like Marlene Dietrich, Peter Lorre, directors like Fritz Lang and German writers , scientists left Germany when, and in some cases before, the Nazis took power. I couldn't imagine why they would help to glorify them in Hollywood of the late 30's and during the war.
24 posted on 07/01/2013 2:36:51 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: RedHeeler
As you are no doubt aware many communists in the United States and in Great Britain engaged in propaganda covering the most egregious of Stalin's crimes in the 1920s and 30s. During most of these decades the American communists opposed Hitler but during the rather brief time of the Hitler/Stalin pact these same communist reversed field and supported Hitler's regime.

When The House Un-American Activities Committee began investigating the Hollywood communists the investigators were and still are decried as alarmists and anti-Jewish bigots. They are still being excoriated in academia as a right-wing, know nothing, persecutor's of innocent people of talent who were not communists. Sean Penn's father, for example, was a communist who went on the blacklist and had to make his living outside of Hollywood, still writing for the Broadway stage if I recall correctly.

The point is that these communists are held up as martyrs, men who were idealists and who were not in thrall to Stalin. The contrary in many cases is the reality.

The historical result of all this is that it is incredibly difficult today to make the case that anyone, (dare I say the name, Barack Obama?) is a communist. This has the effect of insulating much of the green movement and much of the leadership of the European Union from their communist biographies. I do not think it was an accident that Van Jones was removed from the Obama administration not because he was an acknowledged communist but because he was a "truther."

I believe that it would be illuminating to know if these same individuals cynically followed the Soviet line during the time of the pact because it would demonstrate that they were hardly high-minded idealists but down the line ideological, Soviet, communists.


25 posted on 07/01/2013 2:48:20 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

You bring up the key point right there. The hardcore Communist Left in America were very Nazi friendly up until the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941. Hitler had been allied with the Soviets for years, and had circumvented many parts of the Vesailles Treaty with Uncle Joe’s help. Their working together long predated Molotov Ribbentrop. The Communist Left in the US was getting their marching orders from Moscow, and that included being friendly to the Soviet’s allies, the Nazis.


26 posted on 07/01/2013 2:49:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: laplata
JFK didn’t fight the Nazis. He was in the Pacific
. . . but then, JFK wasn’t even the one Joe Sr. was grooming for POTUS.
That was Joe, Jr. - and he flew bombers against the Nazis.

And died doing it.


27 posted on 07/01/2013 3:03:14 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I read somewhere that most every actor playing a German in that show was Jewish. All of leading German roles.


28 posted on 07/01/2013 3:08:22 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: FreedomPoster
It would be illuminating to learn whether the likes of Sean Penn's father who collaborated with communists throughout his career in Hollywood also collaborated with the Nazis, at least during the period of the Molotov/Ribbentrop pact.

7 posted on July 1, 2013 1:38:59 AM EDT by nathanbedford

You bring up the key point right there. The hardcore Communist Left in America were very Nazi friendly up until the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941. Hitler had been allied with the Soviets for years, and had circumvented many parts of the Vesailles Treaty with Uncle Joe’s help. Their working together long predated Molotov Ribbentrop. The Communist Left in the US was getting their marching orders from Moscow, and that included being friendly to the Soviet’s allies, the Nazis.
Ah, yes . . . there was the famous story of the Daily Worker rushing out its first edition after the German invasion of the USSR - lambasting the fascists on the front page, but not having taken time to redo the editorial page, which was pro-Nazi.

29 posted on 07/01/2013 4:43:59 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Olog-hai
Okaaay... I like the way that INN .. uh .. 'embellished' .. their version of this 'story' from the original small one that was released Friday to make it a tad juicier and 'believable'. Just a couple of points that 'might be' salient: Now as to the studios doing business with pre war Germany, so what? They're a business, they broke no law and last I read they had movies theaters in Germany.

And whooppee, this Folk Musician 'author' is enrolled at Harvard, another so what. Look at the mope in the WH and the other Harvard mopes he hired as 'czars' and that lesbo 'just-us' Kagan - Harvard. Screw Harvard, screw these asshats, WWII ended in 1945 get a f__king life.

30 posted on 07/01/2013 5:28:37 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Condor51

Is this a defense of Hollyweird? Very liberal-like, what with shooting the messenger.


31 posted on 07/01/2013 5:40:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Leftist rewriting history. “Hollywood Party”- Billingley “How Communism seduced Hollywood.” Then there are all the Hollywood types who took the 5th, some testified, etc
Hollywood still can’t tell the truth about Stalin’s USSR and we still get anti Nazi movies


32 posted on 07/01/2013 7:02:53 AM PDT by capt B
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To: capt B

How many anti-Nazi movies were produced in the 1930s?


33 posted on 07/01/2013 7:20:33 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

That’s right.


34 posted on 07/01/2013 9:47:27 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All the men who play the main German soldiers (Col. Klink, Gen. Burkholder, Major Hochstetter and Sergeant Schultz) in the show are Jewish.

Werner Klemper (sp) who played Col. Klink was a hard core leftie in real life.


35 posted on 07/01/2013 9:50:51 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: laplata

Nazi influence in Hollywood made no difference....In what? Please explain.


36 posted on 07/01/2013 10:19:09 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

I didn’t express that very well. They made no difference in influencing public opinion or government policy.


37 posted on 07/01/2013 10:20:50 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Werner Klemperer agreed to play Klink if and only if he could portray Klink as an idiot and a poltroon.


38 posted on 07/01/2013 10:26:19 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: laplata

Werner Klemper (sp) who played Col. Klink was a hard core leftie in real life..... Yes. A Jew.


39 posted on 07/01/2013 10:27:21 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

Yes. A Jew.


If he’d been alive, he would have voted for Obama.


40 posted on 07/01/2013 10:48:42 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: boop

“Now that I find hard to believe, because JFK fought the Nazis in WWII.” WRONG! JFK was in the PACIFIC! His brother Joe jr was in Europe and dies there. And YES JFK’s DADDY was a Pro-Nazi STOOGE!


41 posted on 07/01/2013 11:40:29 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Sounds like Google and Facebook today. Or Hollywood.

Thanks Olog-hai.


42 posted on 07/02/2013 4:03:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Olog-hai; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Yaelle; monkeyshine; stephenjohnbanker; Sarah Barracuda; ...
This theory about Hollywood in bed with the Nazis runs counter to just about everything I've seen and heard.

But since Hollywood was so infiltrated with Communists, and American Commies and Nazis were generally friendly during the period between the conclusion of the USSR-Germany non-aggression pact and the onset of the German attack on the Soviet Union (Aug. 1939 to June 1941), one might think that some films during this period might have reflected this. There is also a good chance that whatever films were made during this era that reflected a less than antagonistic attitude to the Nazis were quickly destroyed once the US had entered WWII.

43 posted on 07/02/2013 7:32:15 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
A Communist-dominated organization called the Hollywood Anti-Nazi League was active in the 1930's. After the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact of 1939, it changed its name to the Hollywood League for Democratic Action. Click here to see how many Hollywood celebrities were sucked into this Communist front.
44 posted on 07/02/2013 9:22:51 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: justiceseeker93
Commies and Nazis were generally friendly during the period between the conclusion of the USSR-Germany non-aggression pact and the onset of the German attack on the Soviet Union (Aug. 1939 to June 1941)
Hitler had been allied with the Soviets for years, and had circumvented many parts of the Vesailles Treaty with Uncle Joe’s help. Their working together long predated Molotov Ribbentrop.


45 posted on 07/02/2013 10:05:32 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: justiceseeker93; FreedomPoster
Commies and Nazis were generally friendly during the period between the conclusion of the USSR-Germany non-aggression pact and the onset of the German attack on the Soviet Union (Aug. 1939 to June 1941)
Hitler had been allied with the Soviets for years, and had circumvented many parts of the Vesailles Treaty with Uncle Joe’s help. Their working together long predated Molotov Ribbentrop.

26 posted on July 1, 2013 5:49:26 AM EDT by FreedomPoster

Also note F.A. Hayek’s observation that advocates for the Communists and the Nazis each considered the other as wrong but being of the right timber and in need of conversion, whereas both considered the liberal (by which Hayek meant the advocate of liberty, not FDR and that bunch*) to be enemies to be exterminated.
* Note that Hayek was European, and learned English in America in his, and the 20th Century’s, late teens. Socialists didn’t hijack the term “liberal” until the 1920s, and then only in America. Hayek didn’t return to America until after he had published The Road to Serfdom during WWII.

46 posted on 07/02/2013 10:10:01 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; All

FYI, the Hayek quote you are referring to has lived on my FR profile page for years, near the top. It is two paragraphs that are well worth everyone reading carefully.


47 posted on 07/02/2013 10:28:23 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; FreedomPoster; rmlew; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Olog-hai; All
Hitler had been allied with the Soviets for years, and had circumvented many parts of the Vesailles Treaty with Uncle Joe’s help. Their working together long predated Molotov Ribbentrop.

I can't buy the "Hitler had been allied with the Soviets for years" part. "Mein Kampf," which is considered Hitler's "Bible," his self-proclaimed core political beliefs, contains many disparaging references to "Bolshevism," which usually was synonymous with the Soviet government and its supporters. There were also comments about the "racial" superiority of "Aryans" as contrasted with Eastern Europeans, which were later used by the Nazis to justify their military expansion eastward. Furthermore, socialists and communists were bullied out of the German parliament when Hitler became chancellor and many were arrested and/or deported to the first Nazi concentration camps. And the scapegoats charged with the infamous Reichstag fire (in all likelihood, an act of arson by the Nazis themselves) were socialists and communists.

It was only after the signing of the non-aggression pact shortly before the start of WWII (which enabled the two powers to split up eastern Europe between them) that the Nazis and Soviets became temporary buddies.

48 posted on 07/02/2013 12:11:59 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

OK, I stand (somewhat) corrected.

The Germans and Soviets had lots of interesting interactions between the wars. Things did get rocky once Hitler came to power, as he could not abide any internal rivals to his power, which the German Communists represented. So Hitler took out Stalin’s people in Germany, then you had a German - Soviet proxy war in Spain.

But the fact remains that there were a lot of between the war actions other than M-R.

See here, for starters:

Secret Wehrmacht in Russia
http://www.quikmaneuvers.com/secret_wehrmacht_in_russia.html

The relationship between the two countries between the wars was much more extensive than first meets the eye.


49 posted on 07/02/2013 2:50:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
In late 1920s and early 1930s, Germans closely co-operated with Russians in the development of armored vehicles at Kama, near Kazan in USSR. There was also minor military cooperation with Sweden, including the extraction of technical data that proved invaluable to early German tank design. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_in_the_German_Army

50 posted on 07/02/2013 4:55:56 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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