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1 posted on 06/30/2013 10:40:26 PM PDT by montag813
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Ironic that you would post this story.


2 posted on 06/30/2013 10:44:43 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: montag813

Prayers up.


3 posted on 06/30/2013 10:45:18 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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While these men fought and died, the Arizona Senatorial delegation was busy selling them and their children out in a disgusting vote.

McCain and Flake should be banned from the funeral.


4 posted on 06/30/2013 10:46:05 PM PDT by Regulator
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So sad. Prayers for their families. And prayers for the sole survivor.


5 posted on 06/30/2013 10:51:30 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: montag813

“Perished” is such a gentle, poetic word for the unimaginable horror that killed them.


6 posted on 06/30/2013 10:53:12 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: montag813
Terrible.... just awful. Prayers for these brave souls and their families.

One line in the article really caught my attention:

"The average age of the hot-shot crew was 22 years old."

I porfess absolutely no knowledge of firefighting, even more so this highly specialized type of activity, but isn't experience, the wisdom of years very important in this type of work. There is also something called "youthful exuberance and the adrenaline rush." The young feel they are immortal, invincible.

We've all heard the old adage.."There are bold pilots, and old pilots, but there are no bold, old pilots."

I remember long ago as a newly minted, still wet behind he ears, Marine 2nd LT, being told to listen to the experienced NCOs..

I do hope that the after-action report will examine this, as well as other possible contributory factors..

7 posted on 06/30/2013 10:54:30 PM PDT by ken5050 (Due to all the WH scandals, MSNBC is changing its slogan from "Lean Forward" to "BOHICA")
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9 posted on 06/30/2013 11:00:58 PM PDT by South40
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Will u ping to DJL?


10 posted on 06/30/2013 11:14:25 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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I am a volunteer firefighter with the Country Fire Authority of Victoria, Australia - another place where wildfire is a constant threat. I heard about this disaster a few minutes ago through CFA sources - it is spreading among us.

We feel we've lost brothers. We feel for the loss, and those left behind.

We learn a creed here and I want to share it if I may.

When lives are in danger
Though your own is in doubt
You still have to go in
You don't have to come out.

These brave firefighters did all they could until they could do more.

Salute.

11 posted on 07/01/2013 12:11:38 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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This is terrible. God Bless and help their families after this loss. I’m not sure that homes are worth the loss of life in this instance.


13 posted on 07/01/2013 12:50:25 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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God bless these heroes and their families.


15 posted on 07/01/2013 1:19:40 AM PDT by RouxStir (No peein' allowed in the gene pool.)
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To: montag813

This news makes me very sad. How tragic that nineteen brave and good young men voluntarily went into harm’s way and paid the ultimate price. This weak human cries “God, why have you forsaken them?”

TC


18 posted on 07/01/2013 2:46:16 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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Please pray for another member not in the group..I just found out he is in the grand canyon with his daughter and doesn’t know this happened. His wife is trying to get a hold of him so she can get him home safely. Tragic day for all. :(


19 posted on 07/01/2013 4:59:33 AM PDT by GWfan
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Unimaginably sad.

Dear Lord please, rest their brave, brave souls.
Tatt


21 posted on 07/01/2013 5:10:37 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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Cold Missouri Waters
23 posted on 07/01/2013 6:42:34 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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I’m assuming that if I click on that video then I’m going to see many of the same men who gave their lives over the weekend? I’m not sure if I’m ready for that yet. This is such a tragedy.


25 posted on 07/01/2013 7:00:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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O.K. I’ve read here more than once “These men were out of radio contact”. Something’s wrong with that. What would it cost to give these guys better radios? Most radios I’ve seen for cops, etc. are UHF or VHF bands. Would HF radios have better range or ability to overcome the terrain? What about satellite links?


27 posted on 07/01/2013 8:07:31 AM PDT by RonF
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http://flashovertv.firerescue1.com/media/125-Boeing-747-firefighting/


28 posted on 07/01/2013 9:08:06 AM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: montag813; JustAmy; yorkie

And Granite Mountain, the eastern side that I see...is burning again.

Wow...we ALL need prayer.

Thanks.


39 posted on 07/01/2013 9:42:23 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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