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Kansas Jewish Man Refused Entry into Britain
INN ^ | 7/1/2013, 10:29 AM | Gil Ronen

Posted on 07/01/2013 6:28:13 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A Jewish student from Kansas was denied entry into Britain for a summer job several weeks ago—apparently due to a customs agent’s anti-Semitism.

After being detained for more than nine hours, he was put back on a plane to the United States by customs officials. During that time he was never told why he was being denied entry.

According to the Kansas City Jewish Chronicle, the British man who had offered Louis “Chip” Cantor summer work experience, Kevin Shilling, said the British border agent he spoke to in his attempt to get Cantor admitted into Britian made more than one anti-Semitic comment to him during the telephone conversation they had. …

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Kansas; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; antizionism; chipcantor; customsagents; eussr
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1 posted on 07/01/2013 6:28:13 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Hey,it's Europe.I guess that one could say that Europe and the Jews “go way back together”.I suspect that he could take legal action...in the British courts...but,IMHO,he'd have little chance of success (simply because it's Europe we're talking about) and even if he did succeed it would probably cost him serious $$$.

And if he were to take legal action he should expect to be openly called a terrorist...or something like that...by British officials

2 posted on 07/01/2013 6:33:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Olog-hai

This is outrageous! How come no one called the American Embassy? The UK has been sold out to Satan. Sad.


3 posted on 07/01/2013 6:35:21 AM PDT by pgkdan (Marco Rubio can go straight to hell!)
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To: Olog-hai

Israeli stamps in his passport. Female agents involved, at least one Muslim, though the creepiest guy was apparently “Philip G. Yeomans”.


4 posted on 07/01/2013 6:37:08 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

Britannistan will come to a sticky end, if things keep going in this direction.


5 posted on 07/01/2013 6:40:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
“At some point a woman who was wearing a burka came to the cell to photograph him,” Chuck said.

Oopsie.

6 posted on 07/01/2013 6:41:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: Olog-hai

C’mon. This was all above board. The Brits checked with Obama and Kerry and both gave a thumbs up.


7 posted on 07/01/2013 6:42:37 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: pgkdan

What do they have against Kansas?


8 posted on 07/01/2013 6:43:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RoosterRedux

What will it take to wake Britain up? An attack on the Royal Family by Islamists?


9 posted on 07/01/2013 6:43:30 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: BlueStateRightist

Yup . . . the “Liberal Conservative” Tories, no doubt.


10 posted on 07/01/2013 6:44:11 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The rise of UKIP is indicative that parts of the U.K. are indeed waking up. Same for EDL.


11 posted on 07/01/2013 6:45:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: Olog-hai

I think I will wait for more corroboration on this story before I disseminate it. So, far, it just a second-hand report.


12 posted on 07/01/2013 6:45:55 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Olog-hai

The story sounds credible. Unfortunately doesn’t matter what the country is - they pretty much don’t have to explain why they refuse entry so it might be tough to get answers.


13 posted on 07/01/2013 6:48:18 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Sans-Culotte

>>I think I will wait for more corroboration on this story before I disseminate it. So, far, it just a second-hand report

Fair enough, except for calling it “second hand”.

http://www.kmbc.com/news/kansas-city/leawood-student-turned-away-at-british-customs-checkpoint/-/11664182/20423774/-/4qgbfuz/-/index.html


14 posted on 07/01/2013 6:51:29 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Olog-hai
According to the the Kansas City Jewish Chronicle, the British man who had offered Louis “Chip” Cantor summer work experience, Kevin Shilling, said the British border agent he spoke to in his attempt to get Cantor admitted into Britian made more than one anti-Semitic comment to him during the telephone conversation they had.

Sorry guys, but this smells like BS to me. I am Jewish and I fly to the UK all the time. I've never been harassed for being Jewish. But I have seen PLENTY of people turned back for trying to work illegally in the UK. Might THAT have been what was happening? The guy ADMITS he was only going to the UK to get work experience. Did he have a visa? Because they are extraordinary sensitive to folks -- Americans included -- who try to work on a tourist visa.

15 posted on 07/01/2013 6:52:10 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: expat1000

See my analysis below. Anything’s always possible, but I think there may be something else going on.


16 posted on 07/01/2013 6:52:59 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Olog-hai
Not liking the signs I'm seeing along this road we've been put on.

We need a new driver and a better map!

17 posted on 07/01/2013 6:53:58 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Do you have Israeli stamps in your passport?


18 posted on 07/01/2013 6:54:32 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Alter Kaker

How many Israel visa stamps does your passport have?


19 posted on 07/01/2013 6:55:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Who in their right mind would want to go to the UK anyway. The only reason to go is to see the Scottish comedian Billy Connelly who lives way up in Scotland and you can get there through Ireland.


20 posted on 07/01/2013 7:00:08 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Olog-hai
How many Israel visa stamps does your passport have?

Quite a few. Never been a problem when entering the UK. Does create problems in the Middle East, but the UK isn't the Middle East.

21 posted on 07/01/2013 7:05:27 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Just because you never had a problem does not mean that there are not bad apples infiltrating the system now.


22 posted on 07/01/2013 7:11:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Alter Kaker
Does create problems in the Middle East, but the UK isn't the Middle East.

Yet.....


23 posted on 07/01/2013 7:43:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: expat1000
Fair enough, except for calling it “second hand”.

Well, the source of the story is the guy's dad.

24 posted on 07/01/2013 8:00:33 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Olog-hai

“I’m really so sorry for Chip and the way he was treated. I want to reassure all your readers that if they plan a visit to the U.K., once they get past the U.K. Border Agency they will find friendly, welcoming people, without prejudice.”

It actually *used* to be that way in the U.K.

Not anymore.

The U.K. is now a terrible nest of antisemitism, along with several other EU countries. The people have become extremely bigoted and prejudicial, while all the time mouthing inane pleasantries.

In 1846, the British law “De Judaismo”, which prescribed a special dress for Jews, was repealed. This was the last major example of government sponsored antisemitism in England.

However, the smoldering hated for Jews by the British public has long been there. It has quietly been exacerbated by the British attraction for Arabs since around World War I.

After World War II, antisemitism manifested itself in the British abuse of Jews in Palestine, until the Jews rather violently encourage the British to back off. There was still some Jewish-sympathetic Brits that balanced the antisemitic ones.

Modern British antisemitism has slowly gained strength in recent years, both paralleling and transcending the antisemitism of the American left. So this event may be seen in future as a turning point, when British antisemitism came out of the closet as not just anti-Israeli, but anti-Jewish.

Ironic, I suppose, that so many other EU countries are also becoming more antisemitic at the same time.


25 posted on 07/01/2013 8:20:08 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Michael Savage tried that and it doesn’t work. The anti-semitism through out all of Europe and the Middle East (heck even here in the US) is as virulent as it ever was.


26 posted on 07/01/2013 8:29:30 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: pgkdan

And what would the US embassy have done? After all just ask Chris Stevens and all those brave men in Benghazi just how effective the State Department is


27 posted on 07/01/2013 8:30:34 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: BlueStateRightist

exactly correct


28 posted on 07/01/2013 8:31:08 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Alter Kaker

You couldn’t be harassed for being Jewish since unless you carry and Israeli passport there is no indication of one’s religion on a US passport. Your argument is invalid UNLESS you have multiple Israel stamps of entry in your passport. You cannot get into Egypt if you have Israeli stamps (from personal experience). In the 80s I had a hard time getting into France with legitimate visa, current passport, lots of documentation for a one week work destination (doing field service), and loops prior recent trips to Israel.

You do not know what you are talking about


29 posted on 07/01/2013 8:36:07 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Alter Kaker

Oh you are so wrong there


30 posted on 07/01/2013 8:36:33 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Alter Kaker
You are probably correct about this, although it may also be true that the customs agent the prospective employer spoke with threw out some casual antisemitic remarks. I've had that experience in Europe, including Britain, where they assume if you're not Jewish yourself that you'll be on board with it. My usual reaction of "What the f*** did you just say?" tends to steer the conversation elsewhere.

Mr. Cantor may not have realized that being honest and ticking the "Visiting for Employment" box on his landing card would open up a Pandora's Box of questions. When you're in the grasp of Customs they can pretty much do whatever they like with you and "attitude" (not assuming but it's possible Mr. Cantor put on the "Hey, I'm an American citizen!" face. Not good when they have you by the short hairs) makes it worse. And his employer probably didn't take care to either caution him against that or go through the agonizing paperwork to obtain a work permit for him. Far easier to hire someone from the EU or a Commonwealth country than an American.

31 posted on 07/01/2013 9:29:25 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Alter Kaker
But I have seen PLENTY of people turned back for trying to work illegally in the UK. Might THAT have been what was happening? The guy ADMITS he was only going to the UK to get work experience. Did he have a visa? Because they are extraordinary sensitive to folks -- Americans included -- who try to work on a tourist visa.

There are two sides to this discussion,both of which could make plausible points.There's your view...they were afraid he was intending to work.You're correct in stating that most countries,including advanced ones like Britain,are very sensitive on that score.OTOH,they may fear (most likely without justification) that he's some sort of Zionist whackjob intending to bring the country's 90 million moslems to a hard boil.I'm an Irish citizen (but not Jewish) and when I enter the UK with my Irish passport (coming directly from the US,not from Ireland) I get some pretty curious looks.But I suppose that could be because I sound more like Ed Koch than your typical Mick.

32 posted on 07/01/2013 9:59:55 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: Olog-hai

Two brief vignettes.

#1. Back in 2002, my wife and I go to London for some sightseeing and to drink their beer. Midweek, we decide to go to Brussels via the bullet train. Arrive early morning and catch the train to Brussels and arrive mid morning... 10:30ish. Stay for shopping and dining... and more shopping. Back to Rue de Midi for the bullet train for the return trip to London. Brief stops along the way causing short delays but arrive back in London late in the evening. Gathering our belongings... we are some of the last to leave the train... and I realize that I failed to complete the “Reentry” form for Customs. As we approach the Customs official (never seen him in my life) I request from him a pen to complete the form. He states to me “Thats OK Mr. and Mrs.XXXXXXX, you’re free to enter”.

#2 Went on a fishing trip to Vancouver Island with friends. A friend and I flew to Seattle to meet another friend and drive, in his truck, to Vancouver, BC to catch a flight to the island. As we are in line to enter Canada it is us 3 in the front seat of his standard cab truck. We finally pull up to the Customs window to present our passports and the official immediately points to my friend, sitting in the middle, and says that he needs to report inside the building and will need to answer some questions.

The point: The government knows who you are. Mr. Cantor has a checkered past.


33 posted on 07/01/2013 10:52:21 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Mashood

Checkered past compared to people like, say, the Tsarnayevs?


34 posted on 07/01/2013 10:54:11 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Wasn’t the mother living in Toronto? ;0}


35 posted on 07/01/2013 11:01:48 AM PDT by Mashood
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36 posted on 07/01/2013 11:27:50 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: Alter Kaker

“I am Jewish and I fly to the UK all the time.”

But do you have Israeli stamps in your passport?


37 posted on 07/01/2013 11:48:18 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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But do you have Israeli stamps in your passport?

Yes. Which is why this story, while not 100% impossible, seems a bit suspect.

38 posted on 07/01/2013 12:56:30 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Nifster
Oh you are so wrong there

I'm wrong? You're saying Jews are regularly turned away at British immigration? Maybe during the reign of King John, but Britain's had a large and vibrant Jewish population for the last few hundred years, and there are regular and direct flights to Israel w/out any incidents that I'm aware of.

39 posted on 07/01/2013 12:58:56 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Nifster

I do have multiple Israeli stamps in my passport; also I know a lot of people who are Israelis who fly to the UK regularly (even weekly) without incident. This story makes little sense. But don’t let that from trusting some random newspaper in Kansas City over basic common sense.


40 posted on 07/01/2013 1:00:00 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: expat1000
Do you have Israeli stamps in your passport?

Yep.

41 posted on 07/01/2013 1:00:30 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

A direct flight to Israel is not and never was the issue. You act as if Great Britain particular the Londonistan area and the Manchesterstan area are not so thoroughly muslim and anti Jewish that women are raped, street corner preachers routinely call for Sharia, local schools are afraid to teach the holocaust because the muslims find it offensive. Apparently you have not kept up on the current events in Great Britain.

Germany had a vibrant Jewish community until they didn’t. Get your head out of the sand. Your defense of British anti-semitism is rather like the German Jew who in 1938 siad there is nothing to worry about because we are good Germans.


42 posted on 07/01/2013 1:09:31 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Olog-hai; Absolutely Nobama; MestaMachine

The UK government owes Cantor a free plane ride to Britain and big money for the difficulty they caused him.

Horrible.


43 posted on 07/01/2013 1:35:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nifster
Germany had a vibrant Jewish community until they didn’t. Get your head out of the sand. Your defense of British anti-semitism is rather like the German Jew who in 1938 siad there is nothing to worry about because we are good Germans.

You do not appear to be a member of the reality-based community.

In 1938, German law forced Jews with "Christian" first names to add "Israel" or "Sara" to their first names and Jews were routinely required by legal authorities to give obscene names to their children (e.g. "Slut").

German law barred Jews from attending public schools, from universities, from movie theaters, from theaters and from sports facilities

German law outlawed sex and intermarriage between Jews and non-Jews, and existing marriages were annulled.

Jews were barred from employing female non-Jews as domestics.

Jewish doctors were barred from treating gentiles.

Jews were barred from owning or displaying the German flag.

All Jewish passports were stamped with the letter J for "Jude" as were internal papers.

German paramilitary forces attacked, beat and murdered Jews on the street, destroying Jewish businesses and synagogues.

Please tell me what drug you are consuming which causes you to believe that any of the aforementioned are occurring presently in the United Kingdom.

44 posted on 07/01/2013 2:18:56 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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Sorry guys, but this smells like BS to me. I am Jewish and I fly to the UK all the time. I've never been harassed for being Jewish. But I have seen PLENTY of people turned back for trying to work illegally in the UK. Might THAT have been what was happening? The guy ADMITS he was only going to the UK to get work experience. Did he have a visa? Because they are extraordinary sensitive to folks -- Americans included -- who try to work on a tourist visa.

Yup. I posted this in another thread, it's a screenshot from an interview with this guy:

Note the lack of a work visa - the (voided) UK entry stamp is placed directly on one of the "Visas" pages of his passport.

Seems to me that this guy didn't take the time to learn the requirements for working in the UK (probably figured he was OK since he was going to be there), was denied entry, and is now trying to turn it into something it is not.

45 posted on 07/01/2013 2:50:02 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Alter Kaker

And there were still good Germans who thought they were safe even though they were Jewish. The deial that was rampant in ALL of Germany from 1933 onward is well documented.

Your other comment is just dumb...


46 posted on 07/01/2013 4:36:07 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Sans-Culotte

>>Well, the source of the story is the guy’s dad.

What are you talking about? The person that was refused is interviewed right here:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/169483#.UdGA2T66-xM


47 posted on 07/01/2013 5:30:07 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Alter Kaker
Do you have Israeli stamps in your passport?

Yep.

You could be right - that there is more to it than appears on the surface. We'll probably never know for sure because it's unlikely any clarfication will be coming forward from the UK.

48 posted on 07/01/2013 5:32:22 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Alter Kaker

Thank you.


49 posted on 07/01/2013 5:48:03 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: SkyDancer

You DO realise the UK and England are not the same?. That the UK is Scotland, England, Wales and NI?.


50 posted on 07/01/2013 5:48:51 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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