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Oldest Grave Flowers Unearthed in Israel
livescience.com ^ | 7-1-13 | Tia Ghose

Posted on 07/01/2013 6:55:02 PM PDT by Pharmboy

The oldest example of grave flowers has been discovered in Israel.

An ancient burial pit dating to nearly 14,000 years ago contained impressions from stems and flowers of aromatic plants such as mint and sage.

The new find "is the oldest example of putting flowers and fresh plants in the grave before burying the dead," said study co-author Dani Nadel, an archaeologist at the University of Haifa in Israel.

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Past evidence suggested that humans only started using flowers in graves more recently. (A 35,000-year-old Neanderthal burial site called Shanidar Cave in Iraq contained pollen, but subsequent research revealed that it was likely that rodents living in the caves brought the pollen there, not humans.)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culture; flowers; godsgravesglyphs; israel; israelgrave; israelgraveflowers; natufian; natufians; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; neareast; neolithic
Yes...and I always thought that the Neandertals did it first. Evidently that was a bit of hoo-hah.
1 posted on 07/01/2013 6:55:02 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; neverdem

VERY dried flowers ping...


2 posted on 07/01/2013 6:56:10 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

So much of “science” is hoo-hah. But if it sounds good, you can get grants.


3 posted on 07/01/2013 6:59:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Very true; at least when I sat with my classmates during my graduation from medical school, the dean said to us: “Ten years from now half of what we taught you will turn out to be wrong.” That was real science talking.


4 posted on 07/01/2013 7:13:09 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

I remember my Fluid Dynamics prof in my senior spring telling us that everything we learned in four years of the ME program was never going to be used again...but we had learned a highly disciplined method to tackle and solve problems. He was quite right.


5 posted on 07/01/2013 9:12:00 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Pharmboy

Mint and sage both give off scent. I wonder if they were placed there for that reason?

Also both have been used in a metaphysical way.

Mint is a near-essential herb for your cabinet because of its powerful healing ability. For healing spells and prosperity in all forms, mint is a desirable base.

Sage is used in magic for wisdom, psychic awareness, long life and protection.

Could be this was for protection and healing in their next life.


6 posted on 07/01/2013 10:27:30 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9
For healing spells and prosperity in all forms, mint is a desirable base.

Especially in mint juleps. ;-)

7 posted on 07/02/2013 8:38:15 AM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: Beowulf9
Mint is still used in many medicinals...maybe it really does work.
8 posted on 07/02/2013 2:21:31 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

Mint is lovely. It keeps away unwanted pests too. I plant it around outbuildings to keep ants away. Works too.


9 posted on 07/02/2013 2:23:27 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Pharmboy

People back then looked a lot like cartoon characters.


10 posted on 07/02/2013 2:24:27 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Mysterious Pair Buried With Flowers — Oldest Example Yet
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/07/130701-natufians-flowers-grave-funeral-science-ancient/

Oldest-Ever Graves Decorated with Flowers Found in Israel
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/oldest-ever-graves-decorated-with-flowers-found-in-israel/2013/07/01/


11 posted on 07/03/2013 9:28:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Pharmboy; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

Thanks Pharmboy.
A 35,000-year-old Neanderthal burial site called Shanidar Cave in Iraq contained pollen, but subsequent research revealed that it was likely that rodents living in the caves brought the pollen there, not humans.
Obviously it's difficult to imagine how any research could "reveal" any such thing, so it was probably just part of the ongoing, puzzling anti-Neandertal smears, which are conducted by the Replacement advocates.

12 posted on 07/04/2013 6:17:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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Keith Richards & Willie Nelson & Friends - Dead Flowers ( Live)

13 posted on 07/04/2013 6:21:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Pharmboy

That’s right — science is a method, not a body of knowledge.


14 posted on 07/04/2013 6:27:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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The Natufian Culture in the Levant, Threshold to the Origins of Agriculture
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/anthropology/v1007/baryo.pdf

Natufian culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natufian_culture

Natufian Beginnings: The consequences of a sedentary lifestyle — Alex Wilshaw
http://academia.edu/2236450/Natufian_Beginnings_The_consequences_of_a_sedentary_lifestyle

The Natufians — world first farmers
http://ebbaforssberg.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-natufians-world-first-farmers.html


15 posted on 07/04/2013 6:35:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Beowulf9; uglybiker; Pharmboy; Black Agnes

Aromatic herbs cover or alter the stench of decomposition; use of them in a burial suggest those doing the burying were familiar with this, iow, had buried their dead before. For that matter, they may have needed to do this because they continued to live at the site, a practice found in Sumerian sites from thousands of years later.


16 posted on 07/04/2013 6:38:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Pharmboy

Note for future anthropologists:

If you find a bunch of power tools, beer steins, sports equipment in my grave, that means I died first.

If you find a bunch of dried flowers, Longaberger baskets, candles, and pillow shams in my wife’s grave - that means SHE died first.


17 posted on 07/04/2013 6:41:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Indeed...the methodology for the approach to the patient, the ethics of medicine, the differential diagnosis of disease, etc., are all still used by my colleagues and me as we learned them; however, many of the specifics of disease process were incorrect...and since corrected.


18 posted on 07/04/2013 7:01:37 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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First Funeral Flowers Found in Israel
http://www.archaeology.org/news/1044-130702-israel-raqefet-cave-natufian-flowers

Saying it With Flowers — 14,000 Years Ago
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2013/07/saying-it-with-flowers14000-year.html


19 posted on 07/04/2013 8:49:14 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thank you, SunkenCiv, your input is always valuable knowledge.

To think, a need to ‘perfume’ the graves in order to better the neighborhood...


20 posted on 07/05/2013 11:55:45 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

In Sumerian towns, most lived in multi-storey structures we’d probably call townhouses, although they were more square, and some had narrow internal courtyards. The family dead were interred under the floors, a practice which I’ve seen termed “unhygienic”, seems a little bit of an understatement.

It’s also been written that such a practice led to a relatively large number of abandoned homes, accounting for their urban sprawl, but imv that’s pretty stupid. :’) There were a lot of Sumerians, they were a successful society, and besides natural increase, they are known to have attracted non-Sumerian immigrants (Semites) into their urban areas.


21 posted on 07/05/2013 1:04:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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