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US threatened by Russia's Christianity
Pravda ^ | July 1 2013 | Xavier Lerma

Posted on 07/01/2013 8:20:45 PM PDT by WilliamIII

If you ever wonder why the weasel west media always calls Putin a dictator or demonizes him, just look at what has been happening recently. By watching the US news last week one would think all of America has turned gay with the Supreme Court ruling on married same-sex couples. The New York Times called it a, "major victories for the gay rights movement". Some even compare it to racial equality. If Putin was the dictator the West claims, the new law that defends Christianity would have been in effect immediately after the pussy riot blasphemy which happened last year. Recently President Putin signed a 'gay propaganda' ban and law criminalizing insult of religious feelings.

Oddly enough the West is the only place where some Christian leaders are gay. Their Christian churches omit certain biblical teachings against homosexuality. Yes, Russia's Christianity and anyone who defends it rain on the gay parade and their upside down world. In the past they demonized Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and ridiculed Christians in America as crazed right-wingers. They danced when President Reagan, Jerry Falwell and Charlton Heston died. There is no longer a real powerful conservative in the West the liberals fear.

In the East there is someone that causes the western liberal's maniacal laughter to stop. Vladimir Putin.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: christianity; homosexualagenda; putin; russia

1 posted on 07/01/2013 8:20:45 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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What exactly are the defining characteristics of homosexuality?


2 posted on 07/01/2013 8:25:03 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: WilliamIII
US threatened by Russia's Christianity

…what sort of Bizarro world am I living in?

3 posted on 07/01/2013 8:28:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: WilliamIII
Headline should be:

US government threatened by Russia's Christianity

4 posted on 07/01/2013 8:29:55 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: WilliamIII

OMG¡¡¡¡¡

LOL

Sheer unqualified hubris and just so much BS.


5 posted on 07/01/2013 8:39:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: OneWingedShark

Seriously.

I expect Mr. Mxyzptlk any day now.


6 posted on 07/01/2013 8:41:03 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: Gene Eric

You mean that,......you don’t know?


7 posted on 07/01/2013 8:42:56 PM PDT by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: WilliamIII

More fair and balanced news from Pravda than mainstream media in this nation.

It’s clear the Russians have little respect for Obama. I can certainly understand why. I don’t agree with him on everything but it’s clear that Putin is a much stronger leader than Obama. Obama isn’t a leader.


8 posted on 07/01/2013 8:46:17 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Bullfrogg

Well, food manufacturers like General Mills project virtue. So I’m confused.


9 posted on 07/01/2013 8:46:35 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: WilliamIII

Hmmm. Would exchanging Obama for Putin make us a greater nation? Probably.


10 posted on 07/01/2013 8:51:50 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Gene Eric

Lovers of poop.


11 posted on 07/01/2013 8:55:52 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: WilliamIII

Okay, we all know Obama is gay, and Putin isn’t. Can’t we all just get along?


12 posted on 07/01/2013 9:00:03 PM PDT by pallis
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To: pallis

“There is a reason that most public schools in America do not teach the Bolshevik revolution and its true consequences. There are people in the West that want to remove everything related to Christ from “public view” just as the communists did during the Soviet enslavement of Russia. 20th century Russia is proof that Christianity can prevail against their darkness and confusion.”


13 posted on 07/01/2013 9:04:06 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII
I have been watching Russia and cultivating friends who know about Russia for a decade now. It is a slow process.

I believe that Russian policy now is more genuine and less optics than at any time since the dissolution of the USSR.

On the other hand US government policy is, for all practical purposes nearly entirely optics. (Except DemoRat policy, they have managed to exceed 100% in optics.)

Additionally, while much of the old Russian media is still struggling to tone down the bombastic rhetoric, this Lerma guy is pretty doggone straight, he is no Pravda ringer or shill.

Long story short, it seems Russia and Putin are really about restoring Russian nationalism, empire, Christianity, and moral authority, and Communism ain't invited for the ride.

The Irony here is that Russia managed to successfully ship Communism here, to the US, and now they're pushing the remainder into the sea declaring "swim west young Marxist, swim west".

14 posted on 07/01/2013 9:14:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: WilliamIII

Debating whether or not to add Pravda to my news reel. They actually call Obama ‘Barry’ in some of their articles. haha


15 posted on 07/01/2013 9:15:01 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Navy Patriot
Long story short, it seems Russia and Putin are really about restoring Russian nationalism, empire, Christianity, and moral authority, and Communism ain't invited for the ride.

That's pretty much exactly the impression I get. The new emphasis on Orthodox Christianity has to be real, nobody expends that much effort on fiction.

Храм Христа Спасителя:

16 posted on 07/01/2013 9:24:38 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman
As I see it, Russians are now portraying their policy reasonably accurately as it is, and promoting it as such.

They do stage media events to promote and inspire Russians to follow nationalistic, Christian and moral policies and leaders, and said leaders do engage in showmanship, but they believe in the content of the show.

The American left, Public Servant Aristocracy, MSM, Hollywood, and entertainment industries, on the other hand, sell an optics con job entirely and do not believe in ANY of the policies they push only for power and control over the citizenry they shouldn't have power and control over.

The biggest problem we have with Russia is the lack of accurate communication between ordinary Americans and ordinary Russians. What you hear is not exactly what they said (this happens both ways). I won't even address the official government communications, that's pretty much hopeless.

17 posted on 07/01/2013 10:09:21 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: ZULU
"Would exchanging Obama for Putin make us a greater nation?"

They'd never go for it.
18 posted on 07/01/2013 10:43:23 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: WilliamIII

Meanwhile, Georgia is threatened by Russia’s tanks.


19 posted on 07/01/2013 10:45:05 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: varmintman
They still have a cross at the top of that building.

Has the cross that was on Independence Hall in Philly replaced with a weathervane?

I've looked closely at some old and recent photos of the hall and I've tried hard to make out what is at the top of the new photos, but sometimes I just stop looking at stuff like that because it's too hard to imagine that our countrymen could go to that level to erase our roots.

Maybe I just don't want to know.

20 posted on 07/01/2013 10:58:05 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Gene Eric
A pressing need to ask that question.....
21 posted on 07/02/2013 1:47:53 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: pallis

LOL! You are right.


22 posted on 07/02/2013 1:49:57 AM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: Gene Eric

“What exactly are the defining characteristics of homosexuality?”

Turning from GOD, brown stains, Kaposi’s Sarcoma, AIDS and eventually death.

LLS


23 posted on 07/02/2013 4:37:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: WilliamIII

And I’ve been thinking too that maybe Putin realizes that the best defense his country has against the Muslim take over is a strong Christianity.


24 posted on 07/02/2013 7:50:07 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: Navy Patriot

>>>Long story short, it seems Russia and Putin are really about restoring Russian nationalism, empire, Christianity, and moral authority, and Communism ain’t invited for the ride.<<<

Is it good or bad? Russia was a bloody Empire before communists (expanding at average 55 square miles a day in a period of 1540-1910!).
At it’s peak it has stretched as far as Poland and Finland in the West, Iran and Korea in the South, Alaska and Northern California in the East. All of the above were parts of Russian territory. Russians has managed to destroy and marginalize every adversary being a global super powers at the time, some of them more formidable than present United States being adjusted to the scale and technology of the era (Mongol Empire, Swedish Kingdom, Napoleonic France, Ottoman Empire, Central Asian Emirates etc).
Soviet Union was actually a step back from older Empire in both strength and territory.
Do you really want an authoritarian super state like that back in business?


25 posted on 07/02/2013 9:57:04 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
Is it good or bad? Russia was a bloody Empire before communists (expanding at average 55 square miles a day in a period of 1540-1910!).

At it’s peak it has stretched as far as Poland and Finland in the West, Iran and Korea in the South, Alaska and Northern California in the East. All of the above were parts of Russian territory. Russians has managed to destroy and marginalize every adversary being a global super powers at the time, some of them more formidable than present United States being adjusted to the scale and technology of the era (Mongol Empire, Swedish Kingdom, Napoleonic France, Ottoman Empire, Central Asian Emirates etc).

True, ... sort of, but presented one sidedly. Most all the monarchies were as bloody or worse, AND, like the old Russian joke, Russians can't name a (European or Asian) nation that HASN'T invaded Russia.

As I recall, the French, the Swedes, the Mongols and the Muslims all got their asses kicked INSIDE Russian/Slavic territory...

For why were they there with their military? Famine relief?

Soviet Union was actually a step back from older Empire in both strength and territory.

True, sort of. Observationally, the Communist/Bolshevik "revolution" in Russia was very convenient for the Germanies longtime hot wars and cooler competitions with Russia supplying and backing the English Crown. It took Russia out of play for England, and when she did come back under Communism she was weaker than she would have been had the Bolshevik "revolution" never occurred. England lost the most here, as they could no longer manipulate Russia.

Do you really want an authoritarian super state like that back in business?

And here we get to the heart of it.

It's not what I want that the world gets, my post was purely observational, not some sort of wish list.

What I want is neither here nor there, I see Russia rising, learning from mistakes of their own and from the mistakes of others. The world will get the new Russia, it is unavoidable, and she has huge resources in tangibles and population.

How powerful, or how wholesome she will be, only time will tell.

26 posted on 07/03/2013 7:31:51 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

>>>>True, ... sort of, but presented one sidedly. Most all the monarchies were as bloody or worse, AND, like the old Russian joke, Russians can’t name a (European or Asian) nation that HASN’T invaded Russia.

As I recall, the French, the Swedes, the Mongols and the Muslims all got their asses kicked INSIDE Russian/Slavic territory...

For why were they there with their military? Famine relief?<<<<

In case of Sweden, Turkey and Iran it is only a half truth.
The main factor behind it was a Russian thrust to the open seas.

Russians has started against Sweden as far as 1187 with their fleet destroyed Swedish navy in when the capital of Sweden - Sigtuna. They have looted and burned the city after. An idea was to secure Baltic for a Russian commercial shipping and avoid taxation by the Swedes.
It was simmering for another 500 years until Russians has teamed with the France, Norway and Denmark, unhappy with Swedish dominance in the area + Finnish separatists and annexed some 2/3 of Swened into Russia in 1809. It has effectively finished Sweden as any significant power.

They did pretty same against muslims in the South at the time, using alleged persecution of Christians at Balkans, Armenia and Middle East as an excuse.

The real idea behind all of these was to get access to North Atlantic and Mediterranean.

>>>>Russia supplying and backing the English Crown.<<<<

It is quite an irony but Britain has directly backed both Sweden and Muslims against Russia and it’s allies.

As for Mongols and French it might be mostly true, but Russians hasn’t stop liberating their territory at the time.

In case of Mongols they have destroyed every their population center effectively finishing Mongols not only as a super power but as a nation. No diplomacy was ever involved, they have relied on firearms technology they got from the West while mongols have stuck with cavalry and bows.
They did pretty same to the French to some degree considering the fact that literally all the decent Frenchmen perished along with the Grand Armee. They looted and burned Paris too.

What are France and Mongolia now? Did they win any war after?

To make things worse Russians continued their international engineering into modern era.
Just look at the Germany. It was a militarily powerful troublemaker for centuries. Prussian officer was always a role model as a military expert and Prussian Junker aristocracy was always behind a German expansion.
For some strange reason Prussia or Koenigsberg was choosen by the Russians as a single German territory to annex in 1945. Ethnic cleansing has followed. Where are Junker aristocracy and Prussian war spirit now?
Germany is a guilt-ridden pacifist nation about as important militarily and Mongolia and France now.

I can continue. What about Commintern? Russians might have finished with communism a couple decades ago but it still brings them. Just look what it has done and still doing for US and Western Europe.


27 posted on 07/03/2013 9:32:22 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish
In case of Sweden, Turkey and Iran it is only a half truth. The main factor behind it was a Russian thrust to the open seas. Russians has started against Sweden as far as 1187 with their fleet destroyed Swedish navy in when the capital of Sweden - Sigtuna.

Yes, yes, yes. This is what it has always been about, Russian access to warmer water ports in the Atlantic and Med. Communist Russia continued this policy unabated until the collapse, and Putin picked it up again in his operation against Georgia.

BUT Putin executed the Georgia operation in retaliation and punishment for the NATO action against Serbia.

The point is that with all the warring going on, Russia is not always the aggressor and Swedes not always the peaceful victims. The Vikings (Norsk) sacked the Western European coastline for a couple of centuries before their "victimization" in the Twelfth Century. The Swedes, Turks, or whoever, are not more inherently peaceful than Russians.

They did pretty (much the) same against Muslims in the South at the time, using alleged persecution of Christians at Balkans, Armenia and Middle East as an excuse.

As did King Jan III and Vlad III, Prince of Wallachia, and they would disagree with "alleged".

... annexed some 2/3 of Sweden into Russia in 1809. It has effectively finished Sweden as any significant power.

What are France and Mongolia now? Did they win any war after?

Where are Junker aristocracy and Prussian war spirit now?

You lament that Russia is big and strong and is reprehensible for crushing the spirit out of assorted peoples they war with for whatever reason.

I propose that this resides with those individual peoples themselves.

Russia did not permanently beat down the Swedes, they refused to get up and protect their daughters from Muslim gang rapists.

Russia did not permanently beat down the Turks, they finished the disarmed Armenians, and then gladly let Islam finish them off.

Russia did not permanently beat down the Persians (Iran), the stupid Persian Communists and Jimmy Carter thought that the Bolsheviks were the only ones that could steal a revolution. They laid down for Islam, too.

Russia did not permanently beat down the Germans, in fact, the Germans are the second best example of how Socialism (Fascism, a form very close to Communism) is actually the monster you believe Russia to be. The German people entirely did it to themselves, and it was the Communist Soviet Union that kept their boot heel on Eastern Europe after WWII, not the Russians.

Which brings us back around to the NATO Serbian campaign. Was it the closet Communist Clinton that started up or was it the ex Communist Putin?

So Putin learns from Serbia/Kosovo and engineers Georgia to discourage Eastern European states from cozying up to NATO, and re secures her Ukrainian port and control of the Georgia petro pipeline.

What about Commintern?

This is irony at it's finest, Putin opposing Communist influenced US and Western European policy, while it was pre Putin Russian Communists that exported Communist influence to the US.

The same Communism that is allowed little influence in Russia today.

I would guess that the American Democrats only hope is that Putin will laugh himself to death.

Russia will likely be powerful once again, but what we need to fear far more is Socialism and Islam.

28 posted on 07/04/2013 7:43:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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