Skip to comments.Day 17 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
Posted on 07/02/2013 5:16:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Today, July 2nd, is DAY #17 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.
Today Detective Chris Serino will be back on the stand. [Yesterday ended] on the stand with Chris Serino, who was the lead investigator for the Sanford Police Department on the Trayyvon Martin shooting.
Defense counsel Mark OMara led cross-examination with his usual consummate skill, obtaining responses from this witnessremember, the States witnessthat all but completely guts the States charge in this case.
Among the key revelations so far: Zimmerman was always completely cooperative, open, and straightforward with all the police investigators over many weeks of multiple interviews, both in person at the police station and phone. The sense given is that Zimmerman demonstrated endless patience. (continue reading summary)
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He will need a stiff drink before and after his testimony.
"Thank God", pause...."Thank God", pause....Thank God"
Watch and learn with emphasis to some to “watch.” Yesterday the thread was IMHO, hijacked by two or three people on one or two topics.
Can we get everyone to ignore the screaming banshees who claim St Skittles was being followed. It is irrelevant to the case and there is nothing illegal about it.
I think yesterday was topped off by OM asking Serino at the last moment,Do you think Z was telling the truth after all your attempts to trip him up and Serino sez YES.
NPR actually reported taht Serino testified that he believed Z and mentioned his apparently sincere relief when told the whole thing was captured on video.
He said either Z is telling the truth or he is a pathalogical liar. So, barring expert testimony that Z is a pathalogical liar, this is good, especially considering NPR reported it.
Bump for further investigation. Going to listen to the wet grass first. Trying to determine if water wet grass sounds different than dew wet grass.
I apologize for my posts about the car testimony in My Cousin Vinny. But the refusal by editor-surveyor to let the phone delay issue go was kinda wierd.
Yes, wasn’t that a wonderful moment? I just hope and pray the jurors were paying attention.
Oops. I’m doing it again...
Thanks again UC.
Four Live Stream Links:
Here are some additional *possible* Links to the Hearing:
Click Orlando http://www.clickorlando.com/news/trayvo index.html
Orlando Sentinel (Fox 35 live stream) http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc on-martin/
WESH http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florid index.html
cfnews http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf artin.html
MyfoxOrlando http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/23 von-martin
TruTV/InSession link: http://www.superusvoxtv.com/index.php/speciality/tru-tv
Prosecutor: "IDENTICAL! That young Trayvon was on top, being pummeled to death by Zimmerman, who was on the bottom, and Trayvon was just trying to get away before Zimmerman chased him down and shot him before his 12th birthday!"
He's comfortable. He got rid of his lawyer, doesn't have anything to hide.
The state doesn't want to get into why Serino "recommended a charge of manslaughter." That is a messy can of worms, more for the state than for Serino.
Serino made up a bogus rationale for a conclusion of manslaughter (could have avoided the outcome of being beaten by a thug by staying in the car) in order to appease Smith and other racist officers in SPD, and to shift heat and attention from being piled onto SPD, to being piled on the state attorney office. He figured the case would die there.
Assuming there may be a few others who, like me, did not follow all the developments in this case in real time, here is a wiki article that may help
I'm sick to my stomach watching GZ side of the story! He's so fu of cheap and knows that TM can't defend himself now. Unfortunately there's only one side of the story now. Look how far is the clubhouse to where the fight happened. GZ walked to far in pursuing him.
He should have stood by the entrance waiting for police and THEN they could have patrolled the area with flashlights. Point blank. And TM had every right to defend himself. And no one can reach for a holster and take a gun so GZ IS FULL OF IT. if he knows so much about guns and security then he would know that TM couldn't easily take his gun away. He's a punk for approaching someone who probably did kick his butt and then shot him. And I too thought that maybe GZ self inflicted himself to show he used self defense!!! He had enough time to think all this through after he shot him and it was dark outside. Ughhh I'm do disgusted. I hope the jurors see all this.
I am with you, I believe Trayvon was on the bottom and used the can to defend him self, that's where those cuts came from, had GZ been on the bottom no way could Trayvon hit him in the back of his head, that's where he had to come up with the side walk story!
Zimmerman is lying. He had his gun out the whole time talking stuff to Trayvon making up what he was going to say the whole time and it is so simple to do. You can take a gun, shoot someone, grab the individual and throw them on top of you with no problem. There are some sick people just itching to shoot others especially if they are prejudice. You are told not to follow but he did it any way knowing he had a gun on him and he was not scared because of this fact.He had Travon screaming saying to him that he was going to die tonight then lied and said Travon said this to him. Nancy you got it right and I know for a fact it happens.
This is the kind of utter lunacy going on out there, folks. It's sad.
I assume that MOM will open by refreshing the memory of the jury as to Serino’s closing words - just in case they missed their full import.
The meme yesterday surrounded he remark that he didn't want to get out of his car when Martin was starting him down because he had fear. He also said he didn't want to confront Martin. Anyway, the question I ask there is "Are you afraid of a person who is running away to evade you?"
That's retarded, sir.
Thanks for the ping Uncle Chip.
This is no different than the Duke Trial....Politically and racially motivated. In this case...and most disgustedly, Obama had a say as to what he expected to happen because of the death of his son.
One wonders if the prosecutor and other court and political officials will be as "completely cooperative, open, and straightforward" in their own trials for malicious prosecution, wasting the taxpayers money, and civil rights abuse.
Red Cracker standing by!
Good morning, U.C. Thx for the ping.
A case can be made that the purpose of the trial is to vindicate Zimmerman. It seems to be going that way
I smell a malicious prosecution case in GZ’s future.
The Star witness for the prosecution said she could hear wet grass. I am simply trying to get on their level. So I can understand the process,
I noticed Serino was having a problem when the ‘challenge interview’ was the topic, kind of of vacillating back and forth whether he did or not.
he is under a lot of pressure on him and it may not be from local ‘people’.
I think she could hear him being scared, too.
SKILLETS and IT!! A classic.
We will see if I am right and your resident attorney is wrong.
O’Mara , who KNOWS this tape is a problem, WILL continue to fix the issue.
He will NOT sit down with no further questions ...that’s what your resident attorney who has practiced many years said he would do if he was defense counsel.
The person, whom you know nothing about..will be right.
I think it is remarkably different. In that case, the original prosecutor decided on his own, without a big national gin-up in advance, to press ahead for his own benefit.
In this case, the governor and state attorney general "got involved," and appointed their hit man, Angela Corey.
This is a hit ordered by the highest executive powers in the state.
Nifong was chastised by higher powers in North Carolina. Corey, de la Rionda, Guy and Mantei are going to be supported by the governor, by Bondi, and by the judicial branch.
Is he still with the department??
I hope he speaks bluntly.
BTW in the challenge interview yesterday they kept referring to his observations of Martin and the NEN call. It turns out that it took him over a minute to get through. No wonder the state was hiding those calls.
And the state held these records long enough for Chad to finish his lying testimony.
The look on her face when West asked her to describe the sound of wet grass was priceless.
They had the FBI audio expert on the stand. You have to spend a lot of time with wet grass to know what it sounds like.
Has anyone seen what Dershowitz has to say about yesterday.
I’m begging you............please give it a rest today.
I believe that is the moment where the Zimmerman translator site put in the “What choo talkin’ about Willis..” because that is the exact look she had on her face.
When that happens, the subject can't match it up with the truth and it produces what I would call a "false positive". "Fear I guess" is the example in this case....
I read just yesterday that he has been recently demoted. No explanation.
One good thing about the trial is it get us up and moving. Laundry , grocery shopping , live stock fed , coffee made , trash out, news read and we’ re listening to Greta on fox this am next
Prayer for Egypt and today’s trial outcome. Justice be done. Truth will out!
I think you are on to something there. They are trying to bring up the rationale for kicking this dog.
Miami Dade School police covered up TM crimes. He should have been in jail the night he was shot.
Drug possession, destruction of property, possession of stolen goods and a burglary weapon all found and covered up in an attempt to bring down reported crime rates.