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Day 17 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 2, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/02/2013 5:16:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 2nd, is DAY #17 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Today Detective Chris Serino will be back on the stand. [Yesterday ended] on the stand with Chris Serino, who was the lead investigator for the Sanford Police Department on the Trayyvon Martin shooting.

Defense counsel Mark O’Mara led cross-examination with his usual consummate skill, obtaining responses from this witness–remember, the State’s witness–that all but completely guts the State’s charge in this case.

Among the key revelations so far: Zimmerman was always completely cooperative, open, and straightforward with all the police investigators over many weeks of multiple interviews, both in person at the police station and phone. The sense given is that Zimmerman demonstrated endless patience. (continue reading summary)

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Today Serino will likely have to explain why he filed his manslaughter capias when all evidence pointed to self defense.

He will need a stiff drink before and after his testimony.

1 posted on 07/02/2013 5:16:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
I can hear O'Mara's opening line....

"Thank God", pause...."Thank God", pause....Thank God"

2 posted on 07/02/2013 5:19:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

Watch and learn with emphasis to some to “watch.” Yesterday the thread was IMHO, hijacked by two or three people on one or two topics.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 5:19:45 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Uncle Chip

Bookmark


4 posted on 07/02/2013 5:23:54 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Can we get everyone to ignore the screaming banshees who claim St Skittles was being followed. It is irrelevant to the case and there is nothing illegal about it.


5 posted on 07/02/2013 5:24:08 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Uncle Chip

I think yesterday was topped off by OM asking Serino at the last moment,Do you think Z was telling the truth after all your attempts to trip him up and Serino sez YES.


6 posted on 07/02/2013 5:24:47 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Uncle Chip

NPR actually reported taht Serino testified that he believed Z and mentioned his apparently sincere relief when told the whole thing was captured on video.

He said either Z is telling the truth or he is a pathalogical liar. So, barring expert testimony that Z is a pathalogical liar, this is good, especially considering NPR reported it.


7 posted on 07/02/2013 5:25:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Bump for further investigation. Going to listen to the wet grass first. Trying to determine if water wet grass sounds different than dew wet grass.


8 posted on 07/02/2013 5:26:11 AM PDT by WKB
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To: Mercat

I apologize for my posts about the car testimony in My Cousin Vinny. But the refusal by editor-surveyor to let the phone delay issue go was kinda wierd.


9 posted on 07/02/2013 5:27:15 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: t1b8zs

Yes, wasn’t that a wonderful moment? I just hope and pray the jurors were paying attention.


10 posted on 07/02/2013 5:27:24 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: cuban leaf

Oops. I’m doing it again...


11 posted on 07/02/2013 5:27:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks again UC.


12 posted on 07/02/2013 5:27:43 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Bronzy; hoosiermama; dragnet2; BuckeyeTexan; fatima; sheikdetailfeather; SWAMPSNIPER; sport; ...

Four Live Stream Links:

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html

http://livewire.wesh.com/

http://www.clickorlando.com/

Here are some additional *possible* Links to the Hearing:

WFTV http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

Click Orlando http://www.clickorlando.com/news/trayvo … index.html

Orlando Sentinel (Fox 35 live stream) http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc … on-martin/

WESH http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florid … index.html

cfnews http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf … artin.html

MyfoxOrlando http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/23 … von-martin

CNN http://edition.cnn.com/US/

TruTV/InSession link: http://www.superusvoxtv.com/index.php/speciality/tru-tv


13 posted on 07/02/2013 5:28:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Sacajaweau

Prosecutor: "IDENTICAL! That young Trayvon was on top, being pummeled to death by Zimmerman, who was on the bottom, and Trayvon was just trying to get away before Zimmerman chased him down and shot him before his 12th birthday!"

14 posted on 07/02/2013 5:30:57 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Uncle Chip
-- He will need a stiff drink before and after his testimony. --

He's comfortable. He got rid of his lawyer, doesn't have anything to hide.

The state doesn't want to get into why Serino "recommended a charge of manslaughter." That is a messy can of worms, more for the state than for Serino.

Serino made up a bogus rationale for a conclusion of manslaughter (could have avoided the outcome of being beaten by a thug by staying in the car) in order to appease Smith and other racist officers in SPD, and to shift heat and attention from being piled onto SPD, to being piled on the state attorney office. He figured the case would die there.

15 posted on 07/02/2013 5:32:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Uncle Chip
Today Serino will likely have to explain why he filed his manslaughter capias when all evidence pointed to self defense.

Assuming there may be a few others who, like me, did not follow all the developments in this case in real time, here is a wiki article that may help

Shooting of Trayvon Martin

16 posted on 07/02/2013 5:33:05 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Uncle Chip
Just thought I'd share some comments from other sites:

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I'm sick to my stomach watching GZ side of the story! He's so fu of cheap and knows that TM can't defend himself now. Unfortunately there's only one side of the story now. Look how far is the clubhouse to where the fight happened. GZ walked to far in pursuing him.

He should have stood by the entrance waiting for police and THEN they could have patrolled the area with flashlights. Point blank. And TM had every right to defend himself. And no one can reach for a holster and take a gun so GZ IS FULL OF IT. if he knows so much about guns and security then he would know that TM couldn't easily take his gun away. He's a punk for approaching someone who probably did kick his butt and then shot him. And I too thought that maybe GZ self inflicted himself to show he used self defense!!! He had enough time to think all this through after he shot him and it was dark outside. Ughhh I'm do disgusted. I hope the jurors see all this.

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I am with you, I believe Trayvon was on the bottom and used the can to defend him self, that's where those cuts came from, had GZ been on the bottom no way could Trayvon hit him in the back of his head, that's where he had to come up with the side walk story!

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Zimmerman is lying. He had his gun out the whole time talking stuff to Trayvon making up what he was going to say the whole time and it is so simple to do. You can take a gun, shoot someone, grab the individual and throw them on top of you with no problem. There are some sick people just itching to shoot others especially if they are prejudice. You are told not to follow but he did it any way knowing he had a gun on him and he was not scared because of this fact.He had Travon screaming saying to him that he was going to die tonight then lied and said Travon said this to him. Nancy you got it right and I know for a fact it happens.

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This is the kind of utter lunacy going on out there, folks. It's sad.

17 posted on 07/02/2013 5:33:08 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: MomofMarine

I assume that MOM will open by refreshing the memory of the jury as to Serino’s closing words - just in case they missed their full import.


18 posted on 07/02/2013 5:34:40 AM PDT by bjc
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To: VRWC For Truth
How can Zimmerman follow a person he can't see, and doesn't know where they went?

The meme yesterday surrounded he remark that he didn't want to get out of his car when Martin was starting him down because he had fear. He also said he didn't want to confront Martin. Anyway, the question I ask there is "Are you afraid of a person who is running away to evade you?"

19 posted on 07/02/2013 5:34:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: WKB
-- Trying to determine if water wet grass sounds different than dew wet grass. --

That's retarded, sir.

20 posted on 07/02/2013 5:35:44 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks for the ping Uncle Chip.


21 posted on 07/02/2013 5:36:32 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Cboldt

This is no different than the Duke Trial....Politically and racially motivated. In this case...and most disgustedly, Obama had a say as to what he expected to happen because of the death of his son.


22 posted on 07/02/2013 5:37:16 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip
"Among the key revelations so far: Zimmerman was always completely cooperative, open, and straightforward"

One wonders if the prosecutor and other court and political officials will be as "completely cooperative, open, and straightforward" in their own trials for malicious prosecution, wasting the taxpayers money, and civil rights abuse.

23 posted on 07/02/2013 5:37:17 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: fatima; Uncle Chip
Thanks for the ping!

Red Cracker standing by!


24 posted on 07/02/2013 5:38:35 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Good morning, U.C. Thx for the ping.


25 posted on 07/02/2013 5:39:03 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Carl Vehse

A case can be made that the purpose of the trial is to vindicate Zimmerman. It seems to be going that way


26 posted on 07/02/2013 5:40:19 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: Mercat
No kidding. It ruined the thread for me, and I had to leave it. I do appreciate the reports of freepers that are actually watching the trial and reporting.

/johnny

27 posted on 07/02/2013 5:40:31 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bert

I smell a malicious prosecution case in GZ’s future.


28 posted on 07/02/2013 5:42:28 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Cboldt

The Star witness for the prosecution said she could hear wet grass. I am simply trying to get on their level. So I can understand the process,


29 posted on 07/02/2013 5:43:17 AM PDT by WKB
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Unbelievable....


30 posted on 07/02/2013 5:43:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

31 posted on 07/02/2013 5:44:06 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Uncle Chip

I noticed Serino was having a problem when the ‘challenge interview’ was the topic, kind of of vacillating back and forth whether he did or not.

he is under a lot of pressure on him and it may not be from local ‘people’.


32 posted on 07/02/2013 5:44:33 AM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: WKB

I think she could hear him being scared, too.


33 posted on 07/02/2013 5:45:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt6zqCXwMXA

SKILLETS and IT!! A classic.


34 posted on 07/02/2013 5:45:24 AM PDT by struggle
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To: Cboldt

L lol


35 posted on 07/02/2013 5:45:39 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: don-o
Another good website covering the results of the lame biological parental upbringing of St. Trayvon is:

http://legalinsurrection.com/

36 posted on 07/02/2013 5:46:20 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: VRWC For Truth

LOLOL

We will see if I am right and your resident attorney is wrong.

O’Mara , who KNOWS this tape is a problem, WILL continue to fix the issue.

He will NOT sit down with no further questions ...that’s what your resident attorney who has practiced many years said he would do if he was defense counsel.

The person, whom you know nothing about..will be right.


37 posted on 07/02/2013 5:46:40 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Sacajaweau
-- This is no different than the Duke Trial .. --

I think it is remarkably different. In that case, the original prosecutor decided on his own, without a big national gin-up in advance, to press ahead for his own benefit.

In this case, the governor and state attorney general "got involved," and appointed their hit man, Angela Corey.

This is a hit ordered by the highest executive powers in the state.

Nifong was chastised by higher powers in North Carolina. Corey, de la Rionda, Guy and Mantei are going to be supported by the governor, by Bondi, and by the judicial branch.

38 posted on 07/02/2013 5:46:40 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Is he still with the department??

I hope he speaks bluntly.

BTW in the challenge interview yesterday they kept referring to his observations of Martin and the NEN call. It turns out that it took him over a minute to get through. No wonder the state was hiding those calls.

And the state held these records long enough for Chad to finish his lying testimony.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/1/92244/82226/crimenews/Trayvon-Martin-s-Cell-Phone-Records


39 posted on 07/02/2013 5:47:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: WKB
Hey, I was just funnin' with you. I've followed this case very closely, have the complete collection of pleadings, have listened to all the hearings, and have listened to 90% of the trial testimony. Especially from DeeDee, W-8, Rachael. She remarked to Don West that one of his questions was retarded (sir), and she used "sir" so much that it was obviously meant as an insult, not as deference.

The look on her face when West asked her to describe the sound of wet grass was priceless.

40 posted on 07/02/2013 5:49:45 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: WKB

They had the FBI audio expert on the stand. You have to spend a lot of time with wet grass to know what it sounds like.


41 posted on 07/02/2013 5:50:01 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Uncle Chip

Has anyone seen what Dershowitz has to say about yesterday.


42 posted on 07/02/2013 5:50:10 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bert
"A case can be made that the purpose of the trial is to vindicate Zimmerman the local cops and the prosecutor's office."
43 posted on 07/02/2013 5:50:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RummyChick

I’m begging you............please give it a rest today.


44 posted on 07/02/2013 5:51:13 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Cboldt

I believe that is the moment where the Zimmerman translator site put in the “What choo talkin’ about Willis..” because that is the exact look she had on her face.


45 posted on 07/02/2013 5:51:14 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RetSignman
The challenge interview is difficult because the interrogator can lie, trick, provoke the "subject".

When that happens, the subject can't match it up with the truth and it produces what I would call a "false positive". "Fear I guess" is the example in this case....

46 posted on 07/02/2013 5:51:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

I read just yesterday that he has been recently demoted. No explanation.


47 posted on 07/02/2013 5:51:53 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Uncle Chip; All

Morning!
One good thing about the trial is it get us up and moving. Laundry , grocery shopping , live stock fed , coffee made , trash out, news read and we’ re listening to Greta on fox this am next

Prayer for Egypt and today’s trial outcome. Justice be done. Truth will out!


48 posted on 07/02/2013 5:52:32 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Paladin2

I think you are on to something there. They are trying to bring up the rationale for kicking this dog.


49 posted on 07/02/2013 5:53:23 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Paladin2

Miami Dade School police covered up TM crimes. He should have been in jail the night he was shot.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/05/01/m-dspd-cover-up-the-curious-case-of-trayvon-martins-backpack-with-stolen-jewelry-and-burglary-tool/

Drug possession, destruction of property, possession of stolen goods and a burglary weapon all found and covered up in an attempt to bring down reported crime rates.


50 posted on 07/02/2013 5:53:55 AM PDT by gulf1609
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