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Baseball Team Cancels ‘Second Amendment Night’
Fox News Radio ^ | Jul. 1, 2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 07/02/2013 7:36:33 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota

Edited on 07/02/2013 7:45:27 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A minor league baseball team in Alabama shot down a “Second Amendment Night” promotion after receiving national criticism for their plan to raffle three weapons.

The Huntsville Stars canceled Wednesday’s night’s promotion after getting counsel from the Southern League and Minor League Baseball headquarters, a team spokesperson told Fox News.


(Excerpt) Read more at radio.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; guns; secondamendment
Team was going to give away two nice .22's, and a bolt action hunting rifle. I can see how that's a threat to national security.
1 posted on 07/02/2013 7:36:33 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Damned lawyers.


2 posted on 07/02/2013 7:37:42 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Players or (mis)management? I’m guessin’ it ain’t the players.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 7:38:22 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I’m sure if they would’ve just flown a queer flag (ala the Seattle Mariners) the drivebys would have celebrated them.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 7:38:27 AM PDT by Marathoner (Sarah Palin is our Esther, for such a time as this)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Buck Rogers?..........

5 posted on 07/02/2013 7:42:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“...raffle three weapons...”

Change it to raffle three Gift Certificates; hold the raffle.


6 posted on 07/02/2013 7:44:02 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

P*ss**s.


7 posted on 07/02/2013 7:44:22 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

betcha it won’t stop ‘em from having Fag Night


8 posted on 07/02/2013 7:44:36 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Blood of Tyrants

In a way, I can see their point. If one of those weapons were to be used to kill someone, they would be partially responsible and partially liable for damages.

Sometimes lawyers do look out for the client...........


9 posted on 07/02/2013 7:44:48 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

That’s not the place for anybody’s politics.

Is that the Buck Rodgers who used to catch for the Angels? He’s got to be in his 70’s.


10 posted on 07/02/2013 7:45:10 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“We’re just trying to protect the game.”
**********
Far more important than protecting our rights evidently.


11 posted on 07/02/2013 7:45:48 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: LucianOfSamasota

I’ve got no problem with this like I’ve got no problem with the NFL staying out of Obamacare. I do NOT want politics of any kind in my sports. I don’t care if I agree or support said politics. No.


12 posted on 07/02/2013 7:46:43 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: LucianOfSamasota
If I lived in AL, I would purchase my firearms from Larry’s Pistol and Pawn.

5.56mm

13 posted on 07/02/2013 7:47:18 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Red Badger
If one of those weapons were to be used to kill someone, they would be partially responsible and partially liable for damages.

No, they wouldn't. No more than if you sold someone a car and they intentionally run someone down.

14 posted on 07/02/2013 7:49:24 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Red Badger
If one of those weapons were to be used to kill someone, they would be partially responsible and partially liable for damages.

How to you equate that stance? Is an auto dealer responsible if one of the cars they sell kills someone? Is a pool dealer responsible if someone dies in said pool? Your outlook is exactly what's wrong with this country!

15 posted on 07/02/2013 7:50:00 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Red Badger
In a way, I can see their point. If one of those weapons were to be used to kill someone, they would be partially responsible and partially liable for damages.

Back in the late 80s, they had a massive retirement of personnel at Hughes Aircraft Company. The retiree could receive a gift worth two hundred dollars. Most retirees chose some sort of crystal object or a watch. One retiree insisted on a shotgun and got it. Immediately after that, one of the not-very-well-respected division managers made the same sort of comment about Hughes being tied to a murder and the shotgun option was dropped.

16 posted on 07/02/2013 7:51:55 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: thackney

Great minds think alike....I was typing mine at the same time as you...LOL


17 posted on 07/02/2013 7:52:13 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Isn’t Huntsville a hive of relocated marxists from the northeast? If we need border security anywhere; it should be between the northeast and the southern United States...they really are two different countries.


18 posted on 07/02/2013 7:52:48 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
after receiving national criticism for their plan to raffle three weapons

So they back down and PC-liberalism wins another round.

Inch by inch. Step by step.
19 posted on 07/02/2013 7:54:30 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Red Badger
If one of those weapons were to be used to kill someone, they would be partially responsible and partially liable for damages.

So, if your car was used in a bank robbery or in an accident, is the car dealer partly liable?

20 posted on 07/02/2013 7:55:27 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Red Badger

“Sometimes lawyers do look out for the client...........”

Mostly they strangle commerce and destroy liberty in a search for greater profits through ever-more convoluted contract law and litigation.


21 posted on 07/02/2013 7:57:11 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: thackney; 2nd amendment mama; saminfl

Just think like a lawyer would and you can see my point. I didn’t say that I agreed with it. It’s just the way things are........


22 posted on 07/02/2013 7:57:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Puppage

In a lawyer’s mind, yes they are.........


23 posted on 07/02/2013 7:58:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

As another poster mentions - There is/could be a legal liability here.

Like someone says, raffle of the tickets, ‘redeemable____’,
In the same theme (lawyers,liability) if say Burger King were to hold a raffle if a ‘fat person’ won could they sue for being fat and BK just pushing their product on them?

Of course a HUGE difference if the people BUY the raffle ticket OR it is part of a drawing with the ‘winning admission ticket stub’ providing the winner.

Damn lawyers have taken the ‘fun’ out of most anything.
Get in a ‘boys will be boys’ playground fight and have one end up with a bloody nose one parent wants to sue the other, if, for nothing else, for trauma because of the fight and he gets upset when he sees catsup....so the other parent countersues because the first kid made fun of his sons high heels and short skirt he was wearing to school.

The MADNESS! MADNESS (Major Clipton)


24 posted on 07/02/2013 7:59:24 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Inside every 'older' man there is a 'younger' man wondering "WTF happened")
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To: Red Badger

“If one of those weapons were to be used to kill someone, they would be partially responsible and partially liable for damages.”

So you’re the millionth customer walking in to a car dealership. Bells and whistles sound. Confetti flies. You’ve won a new SUV. A year later your kid borrows the car and plows into 20 people standing in line and kills half of them. Doubtful that the car dealership will be held liable, partial or otherwise, for damages.

In almost every situation, a car is more dangerous than a gun. It has the ability to annihilate more humans in one accident than a gun typically would have. The government will never use logic, since their only goal is disarm civilians who may need to defend themselves against the bad guys and/or the government. (Often the bad guys and the government are the same people.)


25 posted on 07/02/2013 8:03:55 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: Marathoner

that’s what I was thinking. If they had homosexual night or global warming night, celebrating some liberal cause of the day, that would be ok.

But celebrating a constitutional amendment is not okay, not if it’s the 2nd amendment.

Which other amendments are verboten to be mentioned?


26 posted on 07/02/2013 8:04:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Was not lawyers. Was weak-kneed executives at MiLB’s executive offices (and, by extension, more weak-kneed suits at MLB, up to and including Bud Selig)


27 posted on 07/02/2013 8:12:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red Badger

Lots of crimes have been committed with guns. Can you show me where the previous owners have been convicted of a crime or lost a related civil suit?

Heck, my church included a shotgun in a fundraising auction. Don’t submit to liberal nonsense just because they might make up a false lawsuit.


28 posted on 07/02/2013 8:20:47 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

http://www.romclawyers.com/picontent/prod_liability.php


29 posted on 07/02/2013 8:41:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

They’re raising cowards even in Alabama? Shame on ‘em. I hope that people stop going to the games. Bob


30 posted on 07/02/2013 8:52:37 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("You have the most appealing surface I have seen. Bring it over here. Lay it down by me." Al Stewart)
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To: Red Badger

From the link:

As such, a plaintiff does not have to demonstrate that the manufacturer or vendor was negligent or careless, only that:

a defect in the product caused the accident

he or she was using the product in a manner consistent with the way it was meant to be used

the product was not substantially changed between the time it left the seller or manufacturer’s hands and the time it reached the plaintiff

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We are not talking about a defective product. If that is the concern, they should not raffle off a bicycle, toaster or a baseball bat either.


31 posted on 07/02/2013 8:53:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Read on down in the article, beginning with the paragraph “In a negligence claim...”

(I can’t copy and paste from this for some reason)

Your church could be held liable for not taking prudent precautions to insure that the shotgun did not go to someone who was competent to handle such a weapon.
I don’t necessarily agree with such reasoning, but lawyers always look at the chain of custody and go after the deepest pockets in the chain.
Of course your church’s lawyer would file papers to exempt the church from the lawsuit, but that would cost money to the church even if they were to be exempted.........


32 posted on 07/02/2013 9:04:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Red Badger

That thought process means no individual should ever sell a gun, car or even a pointy stick.

Claiming a some ambulance chaser could sue, doesn’t mean the suit would have any merit.

Lots and lots of guns have been used in crimes by mentally defective people. If such a claim had any standing, it would be a common lawsuit. It isn’t.


33 posted on 07/02/2013 9:07:24 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

The Dems are trying to make it ‘common’:

http://www.propertycasualty360.com/2013/04/12/insurance-industry-closely-watches-proposed-firear


34 posted on 07/02/2013 9:20:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Red Badger

Different topic. That is current owner, choosing to act with the weapon. It is not concerning the previous owner who is not involved with the act.


35 posted on 07/02/2013 9:27:26 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Red Badger
Your church could be held liable for not taking prudent precautions to insure that the shotgun did not go to someone who was competent to handle such a weapon.

OMG - you really need to crawl back into bed and pull the covers over your head - the boogieman might get you! Talk about a "chicken little" complex! When whoever wins the raffle goes to the gun store to claim it, they will have to pass a NICS background check in order to receive it.

36 posted on 07/03/2013 6:38:32 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Red Badger
The Dems are trying to make it ‘common’:

Gee, it seems by your posts you agree with the Dems! You keep coming up with the arguments against giving away LEGAL firearms.

37 posted on 07/03/2013 6:41:29 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Apparently you skipped over the part where I stated that I did not agree with any of this mess, but that’s the way things are in this world we have today. Lawyers have destroyed the judicial and legislative system in this country.

Whatever you do in this world of ours, commercially or privately, you have to take into consideration the legal consequences of your actions, no matter how benign or seemingly innocuous they may seem.

If my church wanted to raffle something off, I would not suggest a pistol, rifle or shotgun. Besides, most everybody already has several of each. I would instead suggest appliances or some vacation trip. But even those can have liabilities..................


38 posted on 07/03/2013 6:58:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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