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University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace (Because it might offend other students)
Townhall ^ | 07/02/2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 07/02/2013 8:46:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A Sonoma State University student has filed a religious accommodation request after she said she was ordered to remove her cross necklace because it might offend other students.

“It’s amazing in this day of diversity and tolerance on university campuses that a university official would engage in this type of obvious religious discrimination,” said Liberty Institute attorney Hiram Sasser.

The Liberty Institute is representing Audrey Jarvis, 19, a liberal arts major at the northern California university.

On June 27, Jarvis was working for the university’s Associated Students Productions at a student orientation fair for incoming freshmen. During the event, her supervisor directed her to remove the cross necklace.

Sasser said the supervisor told her that the chancellor had a policy against wearing religious items and further explained “that she could not wear her cross necklace because it might offend others, it might make incoming students feel unwelcome, or it might cause incoming students to feel that ASP was not an organization they should join.”

“My initial reaction was one of complete shock,” Jarvis told Fox News. “I was thrown for a loop.”

Jarvis said she is a devout Catholic, and she wears the cross as a symbol of her faith in Christ.

“I was offended because I believe as a Christian woman it is my prerogative to display my faith any way I like so long as it is not harming anyone else,” she said. “I was very hurt and felt as if the university’s mission statement -- which includes tolerance and inclusivity to all -- was violated.”

On a second encounter, her supervisor told her she should hide the cross under her shirt or remove it.

At that point, Jarvis became so upset she left her student worker job early.

Sasser, who is representing the college student, said the university should apologize for its actions.

“It’s unfortunate there are university officials out there who think that it’s okay to tell Christians to hide their faith -- but would cringe if somebody said the same thing about hiding someone’s pride in whatever political or cultural affiliation they may have,” he told Fox News.

He said the law is clear on the matter -- "state employees may wear crosses while they are performing their duties as long as the wearing does not interfere with the employees' duties or harm the employer's business interests."

University spokeswoman Susan Kashack confirmed to Fox News that the incident occurred and expressed extreme regret.

“Someone who works here was concerned that the cross might be off-putting to students who are coming to campus for the first time,” she said.

Kashack said the supervisor was “completely wrong.”

“It was absolutely an inappropriate action for him to make that request of her,” she said.

Kashack said Sonoma State President Ruben Arminana was “angered” by the incident, and they are trying to contact Jarvis so they can apologize.

“The president was very upset about it and asked me to contact Miss Jarvis and give a profuse apology,” she said.

She said they have spoken with the employee involved in the incident but won’t reveal the contents of their discussion or whether he was punished.

“Things like this don’t happen here,” she said. “It’s very unusual. People here are very aware of discrimination. It’s possible that political correctness got out of hand.”

Audrey’s mother Debbie told Fox News she was devastated when she heard what happened to her daughter.

“She’s a strong Christian, a faith-filled young woman who spent her summers at Catholic camp,” Jarvis said. “She’s just full of the Lord.”

Audrey called her parents after she was told to remove the cross, and Mrs. Jarvis recalled an emotional conversation.

“She doesn’t wear the cross as a fashion statement,” she said. “It’s a statement of her faith.”

As she tried to console her daughter, Jarvis reminded her that “we are still one nation under God.”

“And she told me, ‘Mom, it doesn’t feel like that here,” Jarvis said. “Our faith was attacked. It’s unnerving. I know what’s going on in this country. I know Christianity is being attacked. Now, I know it first-hand and it sickens me and saddens me.”

Jarvis said it’s time for people of faith to take a stand.

“We need to band together as Christians and fight back,” she said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
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1 posted on 07/02/2013 8:46:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Remove your cross but feel free to wear a burka!

Damnable and detestable traitors populate our colleges. When the revolution comes I sure hope that the Patriots don’t forget to clean out these nests of vipers.


2 posted on 07/02/2013 8:49:56 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A sad day in America. I was in a restaurant recently where I saw a young teen wearing a rosary as a fashion accessory and I was very sad indeed to see it not used as a prayer assistance.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 8:51:38 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier ("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “supervisor” who ordered the removal of the cross should be fired.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 8:52:07 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I can think of a certain well-known "pride" symbol that I find offensive on several levels, yet I see it all the time.

I can just imagine what would happen to me if I asked to have it removed or covered up.

5 posted on 07/02/2013 8:53:00 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No Cross, no Star of David - lest we offend the mussies. Atheists can’t complain anymore since they’ve their own symbol now.


6 posted on 07/02/2013 8:53:38 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The college was probably more concerned about the potential for false advertising lawsuits. After all, if an incoming student saw someone wearing a cross, they might (incorrectly) get the impression the college believed in truth and morality.


7 posted on 07/02/2013 8:54:20 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: MeganC

They issued “a Profuse apology”.
Oh, please!!
They only did this because they are concerned about a “profuse lawsuit”.


8 posted on 07/02/2013 8:54:29 AM PDT by Radagast the Fool
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
The “supervisor” who ordered the removal of the cross should be fired.

Exactly. Doesn't say anything about that in the article.

9 posted on 07/02/2013 8:57:02 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is there no student with a burka or a chadoor? I find those deeply offensive.


10 posted on 07/02/2013 8:58:42 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Liberals are at war with Christians, they do not want any symbol of morality present in their perceived Utopian hedonistic secular world. Muslims and atheists get a free pass, all because one is the philosophy of subjugation and conquest, and the other encourages endless perversion. This is just more fuel for the next round of crusades, and this time, the consequences will be far worse.
11 posted on 07/02/2013 9:00:24 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

but the teacher didn’t mind offendign hte child with the cross- swell


12 posted on 07/02/2013 9:02:07 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any word on those stupid rainbow flags and stickers? They offend me.


13 posted on 07/02/2013 9:03:37 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Astonishing that the ‘tolerance’ of Christians towards non-Christians has led to a situation where Christians are outcasts in the country built on our sweat, blood and tears...


14 posted on 07/02/2013 9:04:19 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: lonevoice

PING!


15 posted on 07/02/2013 9:05:23 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m offended atheists DON’T wear crosses.


16 posted on 07/02/2013 9:06:04 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Second American Revolution)
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To: SeekAndFind
“We need to band together as Christians and fight back,”

There is power in the name of Jesus

There is an army rising up … break every chain, break every chain, break every chain.

17 posted on 07/02/2013 9:07:19 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yet they don't tell terrorist Muslims to remove their Burkas, or shave their terrorist beards, or remove their dynamite belts, or remove the burnooses, et al...only items of “Christian” meaning.

Why don't we just call it. Call a spade a spade.

California isn't really a 'state'; it is what the old western denizens used to refer to as "the Badlands."

18 posted on 07/02/2013 9:07:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Pride in the USA

Nope, still can’t find the right to not be offended in that old constitution. But I do find black and white text stating that we have a right to worship as we please and that right shall not be infringed upon. I have had it with these bastards. We need to take this country back from lawyers and leftists now. We need to stay in our seat on the bus!


19 posted on 07/02/2013 9:09:02 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: SeekAndFind

In New America, constitutional rights are invalid if someone MIGHT be offended.


20 posted on 07/02/2013 9:09:42 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Constitution...we don't have no stinkin' Constitution.

"First they came for the Jews, but I wasn't Jewish, then they came for the Catholics......"

Is that a records storage complex in Utah or a disguised crematorium?/sarc

21 posted on 07/02/2013 9:10:27 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Well, it would damn sure offend ME when/if someone asked me to remove my cross. Tell them to go pound sand.


22 posted on 07/02/2013 9:12:09 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m very encouraged that the University quickly denounced the action of the staffer and reversed the edict, extending apologies while so doing.


23 posted on 07/02/2013 9:12:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No cross, no star of David? Well, then no headscarves, crescent moon necklaces, no burkhas, no long raincoats that cover your body. Fair is fair.


24 posted on 07/02/2013 9:23:25 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: SeekAndFind

This country is at war with Christians; Christians just haven’t figured that out yet.


25 posted on 07/02/2013 9:23:34 AM PDT by Texas56
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To: SeekAndFind

How about we just bash the liberal in the face that makes such a stupid demand? Logic escapes them, so maybe we should just get to their primal level and bash them in the face? Make them afraid of us.


26 posted on 07/02/2013 9:26:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Phillyred; Pride in the USA
We need to take this country back from lawyers and leftists now. We need to stay in our seat on the bus!

Absolutely. These kinds of assaults on people of faith and traditional values have rapidly become a civil rights issue. I hope this young lady's attorney advises her not to accept the apology unless it's accompanied, at minimum, by a large check, mandatory sensitivity training about Christianity for the University staff, and proof that the offender's employment has been terminated.

27 posted on 07/02/2013 9:29:21 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Steely Tom
I can think of a certain well-known "pride" symbol that I find offensive on several levels, yet I see it all the time.

Kind of sucks. Rainbows are cool.
I've thought about making a bumper sticker showing a rainbow and an arm holding a sickle (Rev 10:1, 14:14-16). It is time to Reap.

28 posted on 07/02/2013 9:31:26 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Texas56
This country is at war with Christians

Make sure there is enough evidence to convict you should Christianity ever become a crime.

29 posted on 07/02/2013 9:32:26 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Had she been a “hip hop thug” wearing an oversized upside down cross nothing would have been said.


30 posted on 07/02/2013 9:34:25 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why the hell don’t Christians start getting “offended” themselves? It’s time to stop turning the other cheek and start fighting back like Old Testament warriors.


31 posted on 07/02/2013 9:37:34 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: SeekAndFind

A private school could get away with this

A public school cannot Unless it is based on some safety issue like getting it caught in a machine


32 posted on 07/02/2013 9:40:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
The “supervisor” who ordered the removal of the cross should be fired.

The student should have asked for the supervisor's resignation because she was deeply offended by being asked to remove her religious symbol. Or she could have suggested that she wear a burka instead.

33 posted on 07/02/2013 9:45:21 AM PDT by PuzzledInTX (Everything will be OK in the end. If it is not OK, then it isn't the end.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

“Any word on those stupid rainbow flags and stickers? They offend me.”

Puhleeeeze. My son went to orientation at his Northeast University and he said that all the students that were helping out that day wore the rainbow flag on their lapel.

I asked him what he thought about that. He said one word...

FABULOUS!!!!!!!

We both had a good laugh. My wife called us intolerant bastards.. Then she started to laugh.


34 posted on 07/02/2013 9:46:59 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: Don Corleone

‘Free exercise of religion’ is sooooo last century.


35 posted on 07/02/2013 9:49:23 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: factoryrat

Jews are not left out of this assault on religious freedom. The IRS was targeting Jews supporting Israel don’t forget that fact for one second!


36 posted on 07/02/2013 10:01:06 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Radagast the Fool
They issued “a Profuse apology”. Oh, please!! They only did this because they are concerned about a “profuse lawsuit”.

How come the university president can't issue his own apology? I would take this apology as much more sincere if it came from his mouth rather than from his spokesperson.

"Trying to get ahold of her"? I would have thought that email, cell phones, and other instant communications devices would have made their way to Central California by now.

37 posted on 07/02/2013 10:03:59 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about we boot the headchoppers out of the country. Then people won’t be offended.


38 posted on 07/02/2013 10:04:16 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Cracker Barrel is racist and I demand that they change their name.)
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To: Lazamataz
Whether it was fear of a well justified legal action against the university or not at least they took quick action to "have a word" with their little Fascist employee and extend apologies to the young lady.

Ideally the employee should be fired and his/her name made public so the rest of us can track the bastard down to their social website persona(s) for further remedial education in American rights. But we can all remember similar situations where the administration of the school would have circled the wagons. Sincerely sorry or not their admission that they, via one of their employees, screwed up means they knew what would be coming and feared it. Push back hard and they fold.

Christians and Jews need to keep it up and accept nothing less than these vermin be pushed back into the holes they crawled out of. They are cowards at heart and any wavering just encourages the bastards.

39 posted on 07/02/2013 10:05:05 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Progov

“Well, it would damn sure offend ME when/if someone asked me to remove my cross. Tell them to go pound sand.”

Obviously it only matters if a leftist would be offended. They dont give a Carp about offending people like us. Personally I would like to see the supervisor hounded out of office which is what they do to conservatives.


40 posted on 07/02/2013 10:09:12 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like this student needs to tell other students to wear their crosses. In defiance.


41 posted on 07/02/2013 10:14:11 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: MeganC

burkas.

42 posted on 07/02/2013 10:14:32 AM PDT by Foolsgold (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: MeganC

burkas.

43 posted on 07/02/2013 10:17:50 AM PDT by Foolsgold (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: MeganC
When the revolution comes I sure hope that the Patriots don’t forget to clean out these nests of vipers.

They will get cleaned out one way or another. Tar and Feathers will come back.

44 posted on 07/02/2013 10:19:39 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Yep, just as soon as he’s released from the hospital.


45 posted on 07/02/2013 10:30:26 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: SeekAndFind

Did she remove her cross? Or keep wearing it in sight?


46 posted on 07/02/2013 10:55:57 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: CommerceComet
I thought the same thing.

The university president can't contact an employee of said university to apologize?

He sure can find each employee to ask for donations to the cause.

47 posted on 07/02/2013 12:04:20 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Jane Long; july4thfreedomfoundation

“The “supervisor” who ordered the removal of the cross should be fired.”


They cover for each other. We had one who sent work/study student employees ( 10%/90% federal/state $) to her house to babysit her chilluns.

They buried that like a dead skunk — major coverup but all the staff knew about it. Couldn’t rat her out because she was sleeping with the dept. head and sucked-up BIG time to the vice-chancellor. A decade after I left in disgust, they got her out of the dept. An art professor in a computer/networking services dept == teats on a boar hawg.

Academia is AT LEAST as corrupt as govt.


48 posted on 07/02/2013 12:24:20 PM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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To: SeekAndFind; ExTexasRedhead

Bump for later ............................................................................................ FRegards


49 posted on 07/02/2013 3:27:55 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: SeekAndFind

In my younger days I might acquiesce to his request, but these days I’d tell him to take a flying leap into the nearest lake.


50 posted on 07/02/2013 3:34:31 PM PDT by ducttape45
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