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BREAKING: Obama to delay employer mandate in ObamaCare until 2015
Bloomberg ^ | July 2, 2013 | Mike Dorning & Alex Wayne

Posted on 07/02/2013 2:37:35 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

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To: Vision
Hope the GOP can block this.


51 posted on 07/02/2013 3:19:24 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Steely Tom
He can do - literally - anything he wants.

And he didn't even make the trains run on time.

52 posted on 07/02/2013 3:21:36 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

The SCOTUS didn’t break up the law in their ruling. If he attempts it, I would suspect it goes straight back to the Supremes on a fast track and I have doubts that even Roberts will try a cheap jedi card trick again.


53 posted on 07/02/2013 3:21:46 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: COBOL2Java

What about all the business who have had to beg, borrow and steal the money for all the expensive software upgrades to deal with ZEROcare on the original timeline?


54 posted on 07/02/2013 3:24:38 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Anyone can read it here.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ148/pdf/PLAW-111publ148.pdf


55 posted on 07/02/2013 3:24:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: kabar
How can he do that? It is the law.

The law (Constitution) didn't stop little boy king Barry when he made recess appointments to the NLRB and avoided a confirmation fight.

The law has NEVER stopped a RAT.
56 posted on 07/02/2013 3:24:48 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Obama can do whatever he damn well wants. He’s dictator.


57 posted on 07/02/2013 3:28:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Cheerio

What about employees who have already sustained damage (had their hours cut) in lost wages?


59 posted on 07/02/2013 3:29:56 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Let’s give the left a taste of their own medicine, incrementalism! Today we got this train wreck delayed. Now let’s work toward it’s unconditional repeal.


60 posted on 07/02/2013 3:34:19 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Jane Long

I’m celebrating by putting a big-ass firecracker under 2600 symbolic pages of obamacare.


61 posted on 07/02/2013 3:36:14 PM PDT by jughandle
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To: null and void

So when the GOP takes over the Senate and retains the House, Hussein can blame them when the whole moronic concept goes south..


62 posted on 07/02/2013 3:47:11 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Skip impeachment and move straight to deportation..)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I guess this means that the 16,000 IRS agents won’t be needed for a while?

Yeah, right.

F U B O!


63 posted on 07/02/2013 3:48:22 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: kabar
It is going to interesting to see how this affects the costs. The delay means no penalties for the employers, which will cause a loss of revenue. At the same time, individuals will be mandated to get insurance or pay a fine. How can they delay the employers’ penalties without impacting the individual mandate?

This is a terrific question. What about the individual mandate and the exchanges that are supposed to be available this October?

Also:

How much has it cost to prepare for the roll out (within the nearest $100 billion will be close enough for my mind)? The states have been soaking up federal funds for the exchanges all year, and now...poof - delayed. Who in the hell is going to pay all of the agents and employees that have been added to get this done? Do they get to sit around with their thumbs in their asses for a year - not that it would be much difference?

64 posted on 07/02/2013 3:52:48 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

politics,,that’s all...I doubt they are actually hearing the rumblings of disapproval from the people on this,,it’s all politics


65 posted on 07/02/2013 3:54:28 PM PDT by austinaero
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To: COBOL2Java

I guess that sucka photo you posted was from someone who’ll sue us?


66 posted on 07/02/2013 3:55:04 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: RobertClark

Do they get to sit around with their thumbs in their asses for a year - not that it would be much difference?


Oh, I’m sure they’ll be assigned SOMETHING to do to conservatives in the meantime.


67 posted on 07/02/2013 3:59:53 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: kabar

They’re pulling out all the stops to win the House in 2014. I wonder what figure the Dems put on donations to delay it.

Of course if the Rs put a mandate on individuals and didn’t on businesses the media would tear them up... but the media will just say good things about this.


68 posted on 07/02/2013 4:00:32 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Rush, in an interview on Fox an don his show admonished the GOP to go after Obama on Obamacare — it’s the most important issue. And, low and behold, the Obama Administration immediately removes the employer mandate. Talk about hitting a nerve!


69 posted on 07/02/2013 4:01:31 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: cripplecreek

The law as written allows the pres or HHS secretary (or whoever is supposed to set the enforcement date) to select the date of enforcement. Since they haven’t announced a date yet, they are free to change it (per the ACA provisions regarding this).

This is an obvious ploy for mid-term election votes as others have said though...


70 posted on 07/02/2013 4:02:10 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: St. Louis Conservative

According to this report ... only postpones employer mandate. Individual mandate still there

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/07/02/administration-delays-key-requirement-in-health-care-law/


71 posted on 07/02/2013 4:07:24 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: txhurl

No, I posted it before, and it’s still in my roster. I guess they didn’t like the “sucka”.


72 posted on 07/02/2013 4:18:20 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

TYRANNY: “Senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett cast the decision as part of an effort to simplify data reporting requirements.

She said since enforcing the coverage mandate is dependent on businesses reporting about their workers’ access to insurance, the administration decided to postpone the reporting requirement, and with it, the mandate to provide coverage.

‘‘We have and will continue to make changes as needed,’’ Jarrett wrote in a White House blog post. ‘‘In our ongoing discussions with businesses we have heard that you need the time to get this right. We are listening.’’


73 posted on 07/02/2013 4:22:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Cheerio

The House has not stopped him either. Nor have any Senators or the RNC made a stink about anything Unconstitutional.

In the scheme of things, what’s one more offense when we gets away with murder?


74 posted on 07/02/2013 4:36:48 PM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: Steely Tom

“...He can do - literally - anything he wants.
No one has the courage to call him on it.....”

Or course. They’re are scared spitless of PRISM because they’ve all got dirt. He has em right where he wants em.


75 posted on 07/02/2013 4:56:58 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
To save Demon-rats in 2014??

Republicans, you have a GREAT ISSUE here....instead of kissing the Clown's arse on immigration, how about fighting against him?

76 posted on 07/02/2013 5:12:51 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: null and void

>> Does that delay the taxes that go with it?

Good point.


77 posted on 07/02/2013 5:33:03 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: mrsmith

>> They’re pulling out all the stops to win the House in 2014.

And the GOP by way of immigration is working hard at losing 2014.


78 posted on 07/02/2013 5:34:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

79 posted on 07/02/2013 5:42:17 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Mr. K

Employers need another year to fire people to accommodate Obamacare.


80 posted on 07/02/2013 5:45:49 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: kabar

If our side has half a brain we can really use this to show people what obamacare really is—”impossible to do”and unworkable.


81 posted on 07/02/2013 5:56:00 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

This adds a whole new meaning to “most transparent administration in history.”


82 posted on 07/02/2013 6:02:49 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin - Last Man Standing (Ironic, ain't it?))
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To: St. Louis Conservative
why wait if it's so great
83 posted on 07/02/2013 6:10:51 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Te un-read piece of feces, deemed passed at midnight, under the cover of darkness, on Christmas Eve!

Looks like the regieme is finding out what's in it.

84 posted on 07/02/2013 6:11:50 PM PDT by glock rocks (Stand up!)
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To: Gene Eric; null and void

85 posted on 07/02/2013 6:14:01 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I’m only surprised that the obamites didn’t drop this news at 5pm on July 3rd. That’s SOP for them..


86 posted on 07/02/2013 6:57:58 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Valerie Jarrett does NOT listen to business. She dictates terms to business.

They delayed this thing for the obvious reason; the midterms. They’re scared as hell.


87 posted on 07/02/2013 7:02:02 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Seriously? How obvious can you be?


88 posted on 07/02/2013 7:14:31 PM PDT by txmissy
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To: TexasCajun

If Obama can do this, could not a future president delay the mandate arbitrarily until, what? 2075? Could they not do this for other laws? Immigration reform? A carbon tax? The Republicans should go to court and MAKE him implement it as written. If there is a disaster, let it be on Boy Obozo’s watch.


89 posted on 07/02/2013 7:15:08 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: fhayek

The authority of the executive branch to delay a piece of legislation (that wasn’t written with executive options for delays) is as constitutionally murky as unilaterally speeding it up.

it will be 20 years before all of the lawless actions of this regime finally work their way throught the courts.


90 posted on 07/02/2013 7:33:25 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: kabar

I looked it up and we all need to get the information out on comment threads and forums, anywhere people are talking about this latest boondoggle.

Obamacare legislation, Section 1514 (d) on page 140

d) EFFECTIVE DATE—The amendments made by this section shall apply to periods beginning after December 31, 2013.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/39934958/Patient-Protection-and-Affordable-Care-Act

It is NOT up to the Secretary of HHS.

It is NOT up to Obama’s whims.

As far as I can tell, this is a complete collapse of our form of government. The executive branch just took control of all power of the federal government and is making rulings without Constitutional authority.

When will we finally return to the rule of law rather than the Rule of Obama???


91 posted on 07/02/2013 7:45:07 PM PDT by ElenaM
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To: RobertClark

“This is a terrific question. What about the individual mandate and the exchanges that are supposed to be available this October?”

So this just means that companies over 50 employees could opt for no insurance benefits for full timers or non- qualified health plans that would not cover the individual mandate requirement. If exchanges are available, I still think that a lot of employers will still dump their employees on to the exchanges.


92 posted on 07/02/2013 8:06:49 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


93 posted on 07/02/2013 8:18:25 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: kabar
How can he do that? It is the law.

The will of the Fuhrer is the law.

I've run out of words to describe my anger towards this commie.

94 posted on 07/02/2013 8:20:47 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Obadiah

Or make sure the pain isn’t felt until a Republican is in office in 2016.


95 posted on 07/02/2013 8:32:03 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: St. Louis Conservative
We are employers !

We employ ourselves

Self-employed

And I must admit, I even occasionally fire myself. Always seem to rehire myself though.

96 posted on 07/02/2013 8:41:29 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Makes one wonder what flavor of excrement has hit the impeller in order for O/Val to play the delay card. Imagine the degree of tooth knashing and hand wringing.


97 posted on 07/02/2013 8:42:16 PM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: ElenaM

Hopefully, the Reps will be looking at the legality of all of this. Once the administration issues an official pronouncement, we should be able to see what part of the law they are citing that gives them the ability to change the implementation dates.


98 posted on 07/02/2013 9:41:59 PM PDT by kabar
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99 posted on 07/02/2013 9:42:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Good news for businesses. I think they had too many lawsuits against them from Catholic and Christian businesses.


100 posted on 07/02/2013 9:56:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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