Skip to comments.Go Rogue or Go Home
Posted on 07/02/2013 5:57:12 PM PDT by Bratch
Much has been made about Sarah Palins comments on going third party. I just have one problem with the comments about Governor Palins remarks.
Though she was answering a question about going third party, I did not and still do not interpret her remarks as expressing an outright willingness to go third party. Governor Palin has long been a disruptive candidate and, as a disruptive candidate, has worked from inside the party to change its ways. When she says things like,
more and more of us are going to start saying, You know, whats wrong with being independent, kind of with that libertarian streak that much of us have. In other words, we want government to back off and not infringe upon our rights. I think there will be a lot of us who start saying GOP, if you abandon us, we have nowhere else to go except to become more independent
I read it as more of an endorsement of free agency, so to speak, than a new third party. And I agree with this. It is what I and others have been doing for some time.
In short, conservatives upset with the Republican Party need to go rogue or go home. While LUR and I read Governor Palins comments differently, I agree completely with his solution take over the GOP.
After all, my working theory right now is that the GOP is a dead man walking and whichever side of the fight possesses its body gets all the parts that come with the body, from state parties to the national apparatus.
So work to take it over and, concurrently, open your checkbook to outside conservative groups fighting on your side. Start funding the organizations that actually have a solid track record of finding, funding, and running disruptive challengers within the party. The four I recommend are:
The Senate Conservatives Fund, which looks like it may even be ballsy enough to fund a challenge to Mitch McConnell.
Heritage Action for America, which Republicans in Congress have taken to routinely blast for daring to hold them accountable and challenge them when they get squishy.
Club for Growth, which Republican Leaders in Congress routinely attack in the press, anonymously no less, for being uncompromisingly in favor of smaller government and small government candidates.
Madison Project, which is fearless in finding top notch grassroots candidates to challenge incumbent pukes.
Nationally, the GOP is pursuing a terrible piece of immigration legislation. Many of the Republicans who support it campaigned on securing our borders first. They lied to the conservative base to get their votes. A good number of the Republican leaders pursuing immigration are doing so because they listen to the moneyed interests that support it. They could care less about the base because the base doesnt cough up money and has not shown a willingness or ability to fight a war of attrition within the party.
But there are others in the party who hold the conservative base in outright contempt. They want a new base and see immigration reform as the first step to replacing conservatives, particularly evangelicals. These people, instead of urging the GOP to take up populist measures that play well with the middle class and blue collar voters would prefer immigration reform, mitigation of climate change, and technocratic nonsense that plays well with rich white liberals and no one else. If conservatives do win, these Republicans will use their columns, blogs, and TV appearances to bad mouth the conservatives as simple minded hicks and rubes.
In Ohio, John Kasich has declared Jesus wants him to expand medicaid under Obamacare. In fact, State Treasurer Josh Mandel has been outspoken against Kasichs plans to expand Obamacare inside Ohio and tax tracking. Kasichs response has been to veto funds for Mandels office.
Kasich has repeatedly been telling people that one day well all stand before our Maker who will ask us what we have done for the least of these. Kasich will say he expanded government. I do not know about the rest of you, but I talk to Jesus every night and he has never told me to expand government to help others.
Put bluntly: I could care less if the Democrats beat John Kasich in November. I could care less. If the GOP is going to expand Obamacare and taxes we might as well let the Democrats be in charge. And I think thats the point Sarah Palin was getting at the conservatives who are upset should stop behaving like they belong to a party that does not want them and instead go rogue. Primary John Kasich and if the conservative does not win, stay home (EDIT: metaphorically stay home. In reality, just dont vote in the gubernatorial box or vote for someone else running for that office).
Yes, this is controversial, but consider the evidence:
Oh, you say, those were bad candidates.
Time and again when less conservative or moderate Republicans win, they expect the conservatives to hold the line. You know what? Conservatives do. But when the moderate to liberal Republicans lose, they run to the media, blame conservatives, and start supporting the other side.
It is time conservatives behave the same way. From the Dakotas to Ohio to Kentucky to Louisiana to other parts of then nation, conservatives should get involved, find really good candidates, and work like hell to win. And if they lose, consider free agency. Make the Republican who wins earn conservative trust instead of letting him presume he has their vote.
I dont think Sarah Palin was flat out endorsing a third party and I dont either. But I think she was, like me, suggesting conservatives stop being such cheap dates.
Follow LURs advice. Get involved at the local party level. Take over precincts, counties, and states. Find good candidates to challenge incumbent senators and congressmen. Stop taking for granted that the faces of the GOP really have your interests at heart and stop letting them take your vote for granted.
Again, I recommend you get behind four groups:
The Senate Conservatives Fund, which is hated by Jenn Rubin and the Republican leadership.
Heritage Action for America, which is hated by Jenn Rubin and the Republican leadership. Get a load of this.
Club for Growth, which is hated by Jenn Rubin and the Republican leadership.
Madison Project, which is rapidly becoming as scrappy as the other three.
At the RedState Gathering, I intend to introduce you all to some of these disruptive candidates who are going to challenge incumbent Republicans even some in leadership and also go up against some of the candidates the GOP is already telling you that you must support in order to win. Lets go rogue, but from within not from without. And win or lose, make sure the GOP knows it cannot take you for granted.
Make the Republican who wins earn conservative trust instead of letting him presume he has their vote.
Uh no. We’ve played that rigged game too long already.
aka..s#i+ or get off the pot...
Other candidates? If they are true Conservatives in about 3 or 4 specific areas, I'll vote for them. If they fall short, they can do their best without me.
I owe the party nothing. The party owes me decent candidates.
I left the republican party when that aashole macane got the nomination.....screw them all.....Any one want to start a RAP party, Reagan American Party?
Well, Utah TEA party gave us Mike Lee, Jason Chaffitz, Chriss Stewart, and God willing, will give us Mia Love. Grassroots, kickass.
I’m not really getting how this would/will/is work/ing.
The Tea Party got Rubio in, now he is stabbing us in the back.
I too thought for a long time that the way to do this is to “take over” the GOP. But here Erickson describes the party as a dead man walking, what good does taking over a dead body do you?
Maybe we CAN’T over come the moneyed interests, etc. that seem to exert a great deal of control over the GOP.
Maybe we DO need a third party, or 4th or 5th if you count other smaller parties that are out there.
All I can say for sure if that if the Rs push this amnesty thing past the goal line, and not only do such a bad policy move, but also hand Obama some Rose Garden victory (when really all he should be thinking about is Benghazi, the IRS, Fast & Furious, NSA); I will NEVER vote republican again.
I’ve called them and I’ve told them this, and if they think they are going to get 3 or 2 or even 1 Hispanic vote in exchange for mine, well then they really are the S.T.U.P.I.D. party.
In Congress you have two choices.....Nancy Pelosi in charge or “other.” Harry Reid in charge or “other.” Other may suck, but pick your poison. We have elections in this country besides President you know.....
...but the Tea Party in the House will stop the Rubio madness...and besides, Charlie Crist would have been even worse....you just wouldn’t have been so disappointed.
You bought that "The place to challenge the RINOs is in the primaries. Get your guy on the ticket, and we'll support him, but you need to vote for whatever R is on the ticket." didn't you?
The Miller/Murkowski debacle should have been a wake-up call for all but the brain-dead.
I’ve sent money to The Senate Conservatives Fund, and candidates that it and Jim DeMint supported. One of them was Rubio. Look how that worked out for me.
No more McLames.
Jim DeMint quit.
I wonder if Marco would have been so eager to embrace the RINO faction if DeMint still walked the halls of Congress?
I agree..... It’s time for a new party..... There are too many republican RINOs. When running as candidates, they talk like conservatives but they govern like liberals. They are not sincere and lack core principles. As time goes on, it gets worse and worse. The republican power structure is populated by big spending stooges who take conservative votes for granted. This has gone on for far too long. I am tired of being a fool. No one will take us seriously until we do something drastic.... We should establish a new party of constitutional conservatives. We need courageous leadership. Time to make history....
Best reason for a new party - currently no way to challenge voter fraud
GOP legally barred from fighting vote fraud