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Overthrow Morsi
National Review ^ | July 3, 2013 | National Review

Posted on 07/03/2013 6:39:13 AM PDT by National Review

And end the Muslim Brotherhood's dictatorial rule in Egypt.

By The Editors

Egypt’s ongoing crisis has taken its latest turn with a dramatic showdown between the Morsi regime, beset by massive street protests, and the Egyptian military, which has given it an ultimatum to accommodate the protesters — or else.

The so-called Arab Spring has perpetually presented devilish choices between different sorts of malign actors, but this confrontation isn’t a hard call. We should encourage the military to act to end the dictatorial rule of Mohamed Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood. Morsi has made Hosni Mubarak look like a paragon of good government, without his regime’s redeeming qualities of being relatively stable and allied with the United States.

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KEYWORDS: egypt; middleeast; morsi; muslimbrotherhood; obamasfault; protests; ptolemy; wheresobama
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1 posted on 07/03/2013 6:39:13 AM PDT by National Review
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To: National Review
The problem is that the Islamists tend to stay united, while the Egyptian patriots and the Egyptian socialists will unite against the Islamists when the Islamists are in power - but fight each other and undermine the government when the Islamists are out of power.
2 posted on 07/03/2013 6:42:07 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: National Review

Go Army!

3 posted on 07/03/2013 6:42:42 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: National Review

Does he mean our military or the Egyptian one? If ours, might I say “haven’t we done enough already?” If you think Morsi is bad, remember that we have no idea who we’ll get if we putz around there again. Could be better, could be worse.

4 posted on 07/03/2013 6:43:32 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Worse than al qaeda’s parent group?

5 posted on 07/03/2013 6:45:52 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: National Review
From the Jerusalem Post:

CAIRO - Egypt’s state-run Al-Ahram newspaper said it expected President Mohamed Morsi would either step down or be removed from office on Wednesday when a deadline set by the army for resolving the country’s political crisis expires.

Egypt’s flagship state daily said an army road map for the future would set up a three-member presidential council to be chaired by the head of the Supreme Constitutional Court.

Opposition: Morsi’s speech equivalent to ‘civil war call’; 16 dead in Cairo U. clashes”Al-Ahram learnt that with the end of the 48-hour period set by the armed forces ... it is expected in the hours that follow it, one of two things: either Morsi announces his resignation himself, or the declaration of his removal through the road map for the future set out by the armed forces,” it said.

Al-Ahram said the road map would set up a neutral transitional government to be headed by a military leader. The transitional period would last nine to 12 months in which a new constitution would be drafted to set out a path to presidential elections.

Egypt’s army commander and Morsi, who represents the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, each pledged his life to defy the other as the hour approached on Wednesday that will trigger a military takeover that was prompted by mass demonstrations.

The military chiefs issued a call to battle in a statement headlined “The Final Hours”. They said they were willing to shed blood against “terrorists and fools” after Morsi refused to give up his elected office. Morsi said, “The price ... is my life.”

As a mass of revelers on Cairo’s Tahrir Square feted the army for saving the revolutionary democracy won there two years ago, supporters of the president’s Muslim Brotherhood denounced a “military coup”. Some clashed with security forces at Cairo University, where 16 people died and about 200 were wounded.

I believe we will see movement...and it has probably already been happening...of military units to prepare for this.

Morsi cannot help but see it, and once the APCs, IFVs, and tanks start moving into position, he would be a fool not to "make a deal."

We shall see.

6 posted on 07/03/2013 6:47:03 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: National Review

they’ll have to check with Obama, he owns Egypt

7 posted on 07/03/2013 6:48:27 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: National Review

Overthrow Morsi and the rest of the Islamic Brotherhood including Obama!

8 posted on 07/03/2013 6:54:03 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: Jeff Head

LOVE the picture!!! The media in Obama’s pocket is about to go off like fireworks on the 4th!

My prayers have been for God to intervene for our Christian Coptic brothers who are being persecuted under Morsi and the MB relentlessly since Obama stuck his foot in this. Just cause he changed the minds of low information voters in an instant, this doesn’t work in persecuted parts of the history shows us very well!!!

9 posted on 07/03/2013 6:55:44 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: wideawake

Now we’re acting like muslim brotherhood are the only bad muslims but the simple fact is that the next guy is just as likely to be as bad or worse. I keep expecting Mohammad ElBaredai to reappear but he is just more of the same with a moderate face. He’s nothing but a global socialist which is what the whole idea of caliphate is about anyway.

Freedom in the mideast means you get to oppress someone else.

10 posted on 07/03/2013 6:57:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: National Review
Video Of Egyptian Protests

11 posted on 07/03/2013 6:58:28 AM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: National Review

Did Bill Kristol approve this article?

12 posted on 07/03/2013 6:59:21 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: National Review
This is what happens when people who are ill-equipped to have a say in their governance get to vote.

Did anybody tell them elections have consequences? Or is this another manipulation by the globalist ptb that didn't get a government to their liking in Egypt?

Overthrowing governments has consequences.

13 posted on 07/03/2013 7:00:10 AM PDT by grania
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To: National Review
There is real peril in this kind of sentiment.

The police powers in Egypt, for the most part, did not attack the protestors, showing at least some respect for the rule of law. Hence, to remove Morsi now would be to demonstrate that raw force supersedes law. Should a new Salafist regime ever take the reins again, they will make sure that can't happen again. It is to inculcate the rule of force.

Although they do exist, there are few historical examples of militarist regimes stepping aside for plurality (Franco and Allende come to mind(, but they are the exception and not the rule. In my opinion, the military should have waited until Morsi's government did something so outrageous as to delegitimize itself completely in the eyes of the world. Of course, there is peril in that too in that Egypt's institutions would have collapsed so far as to protract a reconstruction, with much suffering on the part of many. One thing is certain: if Morsi does not back down and the military does not move, Morsi will purge it of every officer with even a shred of "impurity" and this situation will have backfired. Hence my concern at the potential intemperance of this move. It is a delicate balance indeed.

Time will tell.

14 posted on 07/03/2013 7:01:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: National Review; ntnychik; devolve; onyx

15 posted on 07/03/2013 7:05:09 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: National Review

And then what? What will take his place with Obama in charge?

16 posted on 07/03/2013 7:07:34 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Carry_Okie


Could you tell me what the dynamic is between the Salafis and the MB? My understanding is they’re both Sunni, but Salafi is the extreme branch, more puritanical and MB could be called more Pan-Arabic?

17 posted on 07/03/2013 7:12:30 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: National Review

CNN reporting that the Military has the TV Stations now. The Coup is beginning.

18 posted on 07/03/2013 7:12:53 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: PhilDragoo

You’re always right on!
MUCH BETTER than the so-called pros!

19 posted on 07/03/2013 7:13:19 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: JPX2011
Could you tell me what the dynamic is between the Salafis and the MB?

No. I don't know much more about that than you do. Sorry.

20 posted on 07/03/2013 7:15:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: National Review

Morsi is now President-for-Life.

21 posted on 07/03/2013 7:18:42 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: National Review


22 posted on 07/03/2013 7:19:11 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: 2nd Amendment

I wonder if Erdogan in Turkey is watching all of this.

23 posted on 07/03/2013 7:21:05 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Yeah. Whatever happened to those protests? They still on-going?

24 posted on 07/03/2013 7:23:06 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: YouGoTexasGirl
Latest Egypt News: July 3, 2013 10:00 AM EDT

Egyptian Military Occupies TV Stations

10:05 EDT
CAIRO, Egypt -- Egypt's military moved to tighten its control on key institutions Wednesday, even putting officers in the newsroom of state TV, in preparation for an almost certain push to remove the country's Islamist president when an afternoon ultimatum expires.

Mohammed Morsi has vowed not to step down in the face of millions of protesters in the streets in the biggest anti-government rallies the country has seen.

His Islamist supporters have vowed to resist what they call a coup against democracy, and have also taken to the streets by the tens of thousands. At least 39 people have been killed in clashes since Sunday, raising fears the crisis could further explode into violence

The clock was ticking on the military's deadline, expiring around 4 p.m. to 5 p.m. (11 a.m. ET).

The military beefed up its presence inside the mammoth headquarters of state television on the banks of the Nile River in central Cairo. Crack troops were deployed in news-production areas. Officers from the army's media department moved inside the newsroom and were monitoring output, though not yet interfering, staffers said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk about the arrangements.

The state TV is run by the information minister, a Muslim Brotherhood member put in the post by Morsi, and its coverage had largely been in favour of the government. But already in the past two days, the coverage saw a marked shift, with more balanced reporting showing the anti-Morsi protests along with pro-Morsi ones. State radio has seen a similar shift.

The authoritative, state-run Al-Ahram newspaper -- which also seemed to be following a military line -- reported that the military had placed several leaders of Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood under surveillance and issued a foreign travel ban on the Islamist group's top leaders.

The head of the army, Defence Minsiter Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, held a group meeting with leading reform advocate Mohammed ElBaradei, Egypt's top Muslim cleric -- Al-Azhar Sheik Ahmed el-Tayeb -- and Coptic Pope Tawadros II to discuss its political road map, a spokesman for the senior opposition National Democratic Front, Khaled Daoud, said on state TV.

Also attending the meeting were a representative of the new youth movement behind this week's protests and some members of the ultraconservative Salafi movements, a defence ministry official told The Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

It appears that the Egyptian military is preparing to take down Morsi.

The Egyptian military has been very smart in how they have done things. 1st, last Thursday, they announced they were moving troops into the vicinity of all the major cities but would take no action unless there were massive civil violence. Morsi thought they were doing so to help support his government...but it became apparent that the troops were actually there to prepare for Morsi's deposing when, on Monday, after reveiwing the size of the protests, the military issued an ultimatum to Morsi to step down...with troops already deployed across the country to enforce it.

Now, in the face of Morsi's refusal, the military is occupying the State run TV and newspaper, and is meeting with all of the opposition, the leading reform advocate Mohammed El Baradei, Egypt's top Muslim cleric, the Coptic Christian Pope, the leader of the new youth movement behind Sunday's protests and members of the conservative Salafi movement. Clearly, a coalition that will help the nation be governed in the absence of Morsi and the Musilm Brotherhood.

25 posted on 07/03/2013 7:36:48 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: National Review

Please do not post editorials into the Front Page sidebar.

26 posted on 07/03/2013 7:39:23 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: txrangerette

There’s simply no way to know. Nobody can predict the unintended consequences that might arise if we interfere again.

27 posted on 07/03/2013 8:09:42 AM PDT by Boogieman
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