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To: neverdem; ZULU; sickoflibs; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; DoughtyOne
Interesting details about how they forced Boehner to promise to proceed according to the Hastert Rule.

Speculation over whether Boehner might pass immigration reform with mostly Democratic votes escalated almost immediately after Boehner passed the fiscal-cliff bill and a Hurricane Sandy aid bill with mostly Democratic votes. On January 10, the New York Times editorial page hailed the moves as “Democracy in the House” and urged him to repeat the pattern on the debt limit, immigration reform, and gun control.
In February, Boehner passed another bill — the Violence Against Women Act — in violation of the informal rule.
A week later, Representative Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia confronted Boehner at a closed-door meeting, asking him whether he planned to continue using a coalition of Democrats and moderate Republicans to bypass the majority of the GOP.
“It’s not a practice that I would expect to continue long-term,” Boehner said then.
But a month later, on April 10, it happened again, on a relatively unimportant bill to expand the government’s ability to buy land to protect historic battlefields. Some of the muscular “outside groups” like Heritage Action had declared they would score the vote on the bill.
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Then, on June 11, Boehner strongly indicated that he was open to passing an immigration bill in violation of the Hastert rule, telling ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos that “it’s about what the House wants. And my job is, as Speaker . . . to ensure that all members on both sides have a fair shot at their ideas.”
Senate majority leader Harry Reid called the comments “music to my ears,” adding: “The truth is the Speaker needs Democratic votes to pass any bill that has a chance of becoming law.”
By this point, the conservatives in the House were coming unglued. The same day, Representative Steve King told National Review Online he had gathered the necessary 50 signatures to force a “special conference” on immigration. While King said he was not envisioning a challenge to Boehner, forcing a special conference happened to be the same procedure one would use to force an unscheduled leadership election.
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That morning, outside of the Capitol Hill Club, I interviewed Representative Louie Gohmert, who had just listened to Boehner tell Republicans at a closed-door meeting that he didn’t want to bring a bill to the floor that didn’t have the support of the majority of the majority. That guarantee contained too much wiggle room for Gohmert.
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Immediately following the interview, I went into a press conference with Boehner, who reiterated his Hastert-rule promise. Does it extend to the conference report, I asked? “We’ll see when we get there,” he replied.
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On June 27, Boehner finally said the words that persuaded his right flank to back down. “For any legislation — including a conference report — to pass the House, it’s going to have to be a bill that has the support of a majority of our members,” Boehner told reporters.

Note Reid's comment: “The truth is the Speaker needs Democratic votes to pass any bill that has a chance of becoming law.”

So if they pass a bill that gets Dem votes, that's the clue that the traitors won.

9 posted on 07/04/2013 5:11:25 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Well Reid is right because the Senate won’t pass anything good and House conservatives won’t pass Reid’s crap.

We would do well not to pass any new laws for the time being. And when the rats complain fire back that’s it their fault for refusing to compromise with the people’s elected House majority.


11 posted on 07/04/2013 5:48:41 PM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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