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Obamacare requires most insurers to tackle obesity
USA Today | July 4, 2013 | Nanci Hellmich, USA TODAY

Posted on 07/04/2013 2:23:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

USA Today link only http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/04/obesity-disease-insurance-coverage/2447217/


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abortion; communists; control; deathpanels; obama; obamacare; obesity; zerocare
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Oh, yeah. And will someone please point out the clause in the constitution that empowers the federal government to do any of this?
1 posted on 07/04/2013 2:23:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Tackling obese people can hurt them and you.


2 posted on 07/04/2013 2:24:10 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Unions will demand more waivers after hearing about this.


3 posted on 07/04/2013 2:30:08 PM PDT by tangchung
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To: Jim Robinson

And, while you’re at it......show me where the Executive branch has the power to delay enacting a law (Obamacare) for a year, so the treasonous scum that passed this horror show won’t get slaughtered in the 2014 elections.


4 posted on 07/04/2013 2:30:18 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Conspiracy Guy; Jim Robinson

Ah yes,tyrants always go after the most despised segments of society, don’t they?

So, when are they going to tackle promiscuity, particularly homosexual behavior? Treating AIDS costs a lot.

Oh, and don’t forget old folks. Aging is the #1 risk factor for most diseases. It’s about time we started telling people over the age of 65 or 70 that they have lived long enough. For the health of the state, comrade, the old, the sick, and the disabled will be denied access to care. Well, unless they have political connections, of course.


5 posted on 07/04/2013 2:31:07 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: tangchung

Lots of fat-assed liberals aren’t going to like this.


6 posted on 07/04/2013 2:31:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

The Obama Department of Health study concluded that 75% of Lesbians are obese.

A rate much higher than the non lesbian population.

This no doubt has been discussed at the closed door meetings the DNC holds with the press.


7 posted on 07/04/2013 2:31:54 PM PDT by NoLibZone (There is only one solution: Secession by the Red states.No need to be in the NYC union.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Also being Black is considered a preexisting condition under Obama care.

They will target high cholesterol levels.

Guess which one race naturally has the highest cholesterol levels?


8 posted on 07/04/2013 2:33:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone (There is only one solution: Secession by the Red states.No need to be in the NYC union.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

We must get rid of all sick people. It is sick people that drive up the cost of healthcare. If no one was sick healthcare would be cheap. It’s not frivilous lawsuits or government mandates that drive up cost. It’s sick people. Let’s charge healthy people for heathcare and when they get sick, deny them benefits. That money needs to be spent on abortion and transgender operations, not sick people. /sarc


9 posted on 07/04/2013 2:46:26 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

You are learning, Comrade. Perhaps you will qualify for a seat on the death panel.


10 posted on 07/04/2013 2:47:58 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

A modest proposal.


11 posted on 07/04/2013 2:48:11 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Nope. Being 59.5 years old, lifelong conservative, veteran, gun owner, that knows how to hunt and fish and how to live off the grid, will disqualify me for any gummit job.


12 posted on 07/04/2013 2:52:58 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: NoLibZone
Non-Hispanic blacks have the highest age-adjusted rates of obesity (49.5%) compared with Mexican Americans (40.4%), all Hispanics (39.1%) and non-Hispanic whites (34.3%)

http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

13 posted on 07/04/2013 2:53:46 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: jimfree
I am a modest person. And very demure as well.
14 posted on 07/04/2013 2:55:03 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, the war on tobacco was all just a prelude to this stuff. Many a FReeper celebrated the different victories of the nanny staters against tobacco, now they get to enjoy the fruits of their celebrations.

It won’t stop with tobacco or obesity, it will transition to hate speech causing stress for those offended, in other words no preaching the word of God.

And the average American seals clap in unison.


15 posted on 07/04/2013 2:58:12 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Good to see you pal, happy Second anniversary of Dependence Day to you.


16 posted on 07/04/2013 3:00:16 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: NoLibZone
"The Obama Department of Health study concluded that 75% of Lesbians are obese."

There's something fishy about that.

17 posted on 07/04/2013 3:02:32 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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Woo hoo! Free liposuction for all!


18 posted on 07/04/2013 3:03:30 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Jim Robinson

My dear husband is 5’9” and weighs about 200 pounds.
He’s 54.

He works out daily and has serious muscle mass.

He has a very small gut and no one looking at
him would call him overweight.

That said, he went for a health screening the other
day for our new insurance. By simply dividing his weight
by his height they determined that he is obese.
That formula gives him a BMI of 30.

Point is, a lot of people being called obese by
medical, insurance and government agencies are NOT fat.


19 posted on 07/04/2013 3:03:39 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan (Yup. I'd like to see Barry on the Northwestern for one string.)
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To: CSM

Hey! I thought Dependence Day started in 2014. Did I miss the memo?


20 posted on 07/04/2013 3:06:30 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

21 posted on 07/04/2013 3:06:57 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Conspiracy Guy

How about the underweight ?


22 posted on 07/04/2013 3:07:45 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Conspiracy Guy

With the USSC confirmation that it is constitutional for the Fed government to seize our physical being last year, well I consider that the inagural! ;-)


23 posted on 07/04/2013 3:08:28 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Take it further-— Be it obesity, high blood pressure, adults onset diabetes, or any other condition, what wil be the penalty for the noncompliant patient?
Another fine—er, tax?


24 posted on 07/04/2013 3:14:28 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Muscle weighs more than fat. Whoever did his BMI has no knowledge of what they are doing, just a stupid chart. I am 6’2” and weigh 185. But because I am fit I look like I weigh 160. Crazy world we live in.


25 posted on 07/04/2013 3:14:46 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: molson209

They need to be on the double cheese burger and fries with a large milk shake diet. If it weren’t for skinny people obese people would not catch so much flack. Walmart and the other big box stores would have to provide a lot more of those scooters too. That would drive up the cost of all those cheap Cinese products they sell.


26 posted on 07/04/2013 3:19:18 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Oh, and don’t forget old folks. Aging is the #1 risk factor for most diseases. It’s about time we started telling people over the age of 65 or 70 that they have lived long enough....

From what I understand that is in Obamacare under the "Complete Lives" system. Rahm Emmanual's brother David with monsters like Cas Sunstein have stated that a human life is only worth $60k and most of that value falls between the ages of 20 and 40. So any person falling outside those parameters will get little or no healthcare. Any person with chronic disease will be denied healthcare as well those with terminal illnesses.

27 posted on 07/04/2013 3:23:42 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Jim Robinson
What?
28 posted on 07/04/2013 3:24:58 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: CSM

Oh when Roberts rewrote ObamaCare to be a tax. I would agree except the worst parts of ObamaCare haven’t kicked in yet. So I still stand with 2014 being the first Dependence Day. But since they are trying to delay the employer mandate until 2015 to save their chances for taking the house in the 2014 mid-terms we may have an extra year of Independence Day next year. I get so confused lately. I tried to carry one of my guns onto an airliner and took a 757 to the gunrange the next day. What’s an old man to do?


29 posted on 07/04/2013 3:26:14 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: CaptainPhilFan
Point is, a lot of people being called obese by medical, insurance and government agencies are NOT fat.

by bmi i need to lose 40 pounds to not be overweight. i am 61, just had my physical and EVERY number was great. i play 2 hours of racquetball a week and walk at least 2 hours a week plus have numerous hobbies to keep my mind occupied. i would risk my health trying to lose that much, definitely my sanity. bmi is a joke.

30 posted on 07/04/2013 3:34:19 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government shroud fear us.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

It is like trying to decide if Independence day is the day of the declaration or the day of victory or the final ratification of the constitution.

It seems you are still holding out hope, while I have surrendered to the inevitable. It is really just an exercise in semantics I suppose....


31 posted on 07/04/2013 3:34:43 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

So far they singled out smokers to pay higher premiums and as ineligible for most of the subsidy. But not drug or alcohol addicts, sexual perverts, or obese.


32 posted on 07/04/2013 3:35:35 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Jim Robinson
and if the insured tells them to go screw themselves, what... drop their policy???
33 posted on 07/04/2013 3:36:28 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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34 posted on 07/04/2013 3:41:15 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

why don’t they do what life insurers do??

smoke? you pay more for your insurance....
overweight? you pay more for your insurance...

why the eff should I or anyone else who works out 7 days a week and keeps in shape watch our premiums rise because fatty is to lazy to get off their butt?? why should i supplement the insurance company’s revenue to pay for fatty to lose weight???

wanna see obese people lose weight quickly?? stop with these garbage unisex/one price for all health premiums...obese people should pay more for their health insurance....


35 posted on 07/04/2013 3:45:31 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Oh, oh, obesity doesn’t just encompass “creepy white cracker fat asses.”


36 posted on 07/04/2013 3:46:36 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

the BMI is a joke- my doctor even admitted it....

i’m 6’2”/220..my body fat content is probably under 10% (i trained for the olympics for a decade and like your hubby i workout daily)...according to the BMI i am overweight...


37 posted on 07/04/2013 3:48:55 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: CaptainPhilFan
BMI is a poor method used by lazy doctors. A measure of fat percentage is more useful. That can be done by immersion in water and weighing (most accurate) or body conductivity (leg to leg) with the Tanita electronic scales. The lazy approach is calipers on body parts that is almost as useless as BMI.
38 posted on 07/04/2013 3:51:19 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Jim Robinson
Some insurers are offering telephone counseling;

Let me guess, "Eat less and exercise more..." because no one has ever told overweight people that before.

39 posted on 07/04/2013 3:52:27 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: CSM

Don’t surrender. I know you haven’t. It’s not in your DNA to give up.


40 posted on 07/04/2013 4:08:55 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, if they're gonna do it, start with Michelle Obama.

That woman's rear end is the size of Baltimore.

41 posted on 07/04/2013 4:13:41 PM PDT by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: Jim Robinson

unless there are genetic issues, hormonal issues, thyroid issues or other identifiable MEDICAL causes most obesity is behavioral in cause and can be rectified or mitigated with behavioral changes USUALLY

and when more extensive means are needed it is usually because the obese person has delayed implementing behavioral changes too long

either way, and other than diabetes (sometimes related to obesity), or directly treating simply, and just, for thyroid or hormonal issues - which are usally covered as-is separately, I don’t see why mere “obesity coverage” should be a government mandate (any more than any other government insurance mandate)


42 posted on 07/04/2013 4:15:51 PM PDT by Wuli (qu)
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To: Jim Robinson

Then they’d have to abolish welfare


43 posted on 07/04/2013 4:53:00 PM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: IncPen

It does have its own zipcode.


44 posted on 07/04/2013 5:01:55 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Enterprise
"The Obama Department of Health study concluded that 75% of Lesbians are obese."

There's something fishy about that.


I guess they're called clamboppers for a reason.
45 posted on 07/04/2013 5:03:19 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: Jim Robinson

If I want to be overweight (some make believe number), then it’s my business, not hussein’s.


46 posted on 07/04/2013 5:08:52 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: NoLibZone
The Obama Department of Health study concluded that 75% of Lesbians are obese.

Sebelius will issue an obesity waiver for lesbians.

47 posted on 07/04/2013 5:19:17 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The imposition of a duty on the importation of a commodity burdens the consumers. --Ludwig Von Mises)
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To: Jim Robinson

You could see this coming a mile away. I would guess Michelle will not qualify for Obamacare.


48 posted on 07/04/2013 5:20:43 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: God luvs America

You’ve confirmed in your post that you’ve bought into stage 1 of the collectivist mindset. It contains anger at your fellow citizens, and is just short of demonizing them. It also includes an attack against the “evil corporations.”

Your mindset is already one small step from a willingness to with hold health care from people, which isn’t too far from just advocating the elimination of undesirables.

I’d recommend that you change both your moniker and your tag line. Neither fits with the attitude represented in your words.


49 posted on 07/04/2013 5:42:46 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

“Don’t surrender. I know you haven’t. It’s not in your DNA to give up.”

I have surrendered this stage, but that means I am planning for the next stage. Heck, just look at this very thread and you can see that the collectivists are embedded so deeply that it will take something drastic to root out that evil.

Right now I pray that God will intervene and bless us with his glory, however with stories such as the one I am linking, it will take a miracle:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/02/watch-abortion-supporters-chant-hail-satan-while-pro-life-activists-sing-amazing-grace-outside-texas-capitol/


50 posted on 07/04/2013 5:46:44 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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