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Saint Trayvon: Why Trayvon Martinís killer may go free, & why thatís not necessarily a bad thing.
The Urban Twist ^ | July 4, 2013 | Fernando "The Word Pimp" Quijano III

Posted on 07/04/2013 11:33:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I started this article over a year ago, when the wounds of Trayvon Martin’s death were still fresh. I never finished it, in part, because the emotions were still so raw. There hadn’t been enough time to process what had happened to that young man who only wanted to get back home with his Skittles & tea and watch basketball, only rage and disgust. Then there was the feeling that nagged me, a sense that Trayvon Martin’s killer might get off. The rage and disgust are gone–not gone, never gone–subsided; but I still can’t shake that feeling.

Keeping up with the case, as presented so far, the prosecution has done a fine job of establishing many of the facts, but a number of the prosecution’s witnesses have played into the hands of the defense. Some of the testimony has bolstered their claims that, at the moment of the shooting, it was the killer who felt his life was in danger, that regardless to what happened prior to the shooting, the killer thought he needed to kill in order to survive.

Whether that’s true or not doesn’t matter. What matters is what the twelve jurors believe to be true. And if we’ve learned anything after the Rodney King, OJ Simpson, Casey Anthony, and so many other trials of the recent past, juries are a tricky thing. You can, like me, listen to all of the testimony, but we’re not sitting in that jury box watching through their eyes, thinking with their minds, feeling with their hearts. Their job is not to determine whether the killing of Trayvon Martin was right or wrong, just or unjust. Their job is to determine whether the defendant abided by Florida’s Stand Your Ground law. Did Trayvon Martin’s killer “reasonably believe… …it [was] necessary to [‘stand his... ...ground and meet force with force, including deadly force’] to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony?” Was he within the law?

I don’t think that question is an easy one to answer for any jury, so much so that I would not be surprised by a hung jury, and I certainly wouldn’t be shocked at an acquittal. Trayvon did put up a fight, the same way I taught my children to if they were ever accosted by some creep that could have easily been a pedophile. I’d go so far as to say that Trayvon would have whipped his assailant’s ass, were it not for the gun.

So, what would that mean? Would we see rioting in the streets, again, if Trayvon’s killer is found “not guilty”? I hope not. I hope people could look past the apparent miscarriage of justice and understand that a verdict of “not guilty” is the only way to change how things are done in Florida, not to mention other states with similarly barbaric statutes.

Don’t get me wrong. Trayvon Martin deserves justice. His death is nothing less than murder, plain and simple. But too many states have essentially legalized murder with laws that allow anyone to kill anyone else on the pretext that they fear for their life. MMA training or not, there is nothing fiercer than a teenager who’s afraid for his well-being. I would have been afraid. I wouldn’t have been carrying a gun, though. A verdict of “guilty” will put the killer in jail for a bit, but it will also justify the law. Florida can say, “See, the law works.” Nothing changes, until the next poor, unsuspecting victim falls prey to an overzealous vigilante with deluded aspirations of grandeur.

The question we need to ask ourselves is, “Which outcome would be best for everyone?” Travon Martin is already a martyr. No verdict will bring back all that lost life and potential. Trayvon’s legacy will be measured in how his tragic death affects this country and its laws. While I would love to see Trayvon’s killer locked away for what he did, moving this country in a more humane direction would be the bigger prize. A verdict of “not guilty” may not accomplish that, but I think it’s the only chance. Brace yourselves.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: asscracker; banglist; florida; guncontrol; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; secondamendment; selfdefense; standyourground; traydmark; trayvon; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/04/2013 11:33:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mentally ill racist.


2 posted on 07/04/2013 11:35:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What matters is what the twelve jurors believe to be true.

I stopped reading after this.

-PJ

3 posted on 07/04/2013 11:38:53 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“....only wanted to get back home with his Skittles & tea and watch basketball.”

So how come it took 40+ minutes to get back to his place from the 7-11 a few blocks away?


4 posted on 07/04/2013 11:39:17 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“Stand Your Ground law”

Yeah - he mentions this like the idiot that he is. And it took him a YEAR to write this crap!?


5 posted on 07/04/2013 11:41:26 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ah, Saint Trayvon the Martyr...
6 posted on 07/04/2013 11:41:34 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There hadn’t been enough time to process what had happened to that young man who only wanted to get back home with his Skittles & tea and watch basketball...

Then why didn't he go on home instead of attacking the "cracker"?

Zimmerman had LOST him. That being the case, there was certainly plenty of time and opportunity for a lanky 17-year-old - who was athletic enough to have played football - to trot on home in the dark and rain and watch that basketball game.

Fact is, "Saint Trayvon" didn't WANT to go home. He wanted a confrontation. He wanted to smash George Zimmerman's nose and pound his head against the concrete.

That being the case, "justice for Trayvon" has already been administered.

7 posted on 07/04/2013 11:41:38 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: 21twelve

“I’d go so far as to say that Trayvon would have whipped his assailant’s ass, were it not for the gun.”

The defense rests your honor.


8 posted on 07/04/2013 11:43:09 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: ejonesie22
Saint Skittles
9 posted on 07/04/2013 11:44:18 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It took him a year to write that emotional drivel?

Justice is BLIND.


10 posted on 07/04/2013 11:44:31 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What matters is what the twelve jurors believe to be true.

Not the brightest bulb on the tree.

11 posted on 07/04/2013 11:45:08 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a misguided idiot. He has so many facts wrong it’s pointless to list them. He comes to almost the right conclusion through stupidity


12 posted on 07/04/2013 11:45:42 PM PDT by Figment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BooHoo. Shed me a tear.


13 posted on 07/04/2013 11:47:23 PM PDT by Ron H.
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To: Political Junkie Too

Yep... 12 jurors???

Clearly this guy is following the trial VERY closely.


14 posted on 07/04/2013 11:48:31 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them f)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

15 posted on 07/04/2013 11:48:37 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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The question we need to ask ourselves is, “Which outcome would be best for everyone?”


Typical Progressive nonsense.


16 posted on 07/04/2013 11:49:06 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
What matters is what the twelve jurors believe to be true.
I stopped reading after this.

Good idea considering this clueless dork doesn't know there are only six and not twelve.

17 posted on 07/04/2013 11:50:50 PM PDT by South40
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What matters is what the twelve jurors believe to be true.

Author = Moron who doesn't even know the details of the trial currently in progress.

His death is nothing less than murder, plain and simple.

Author = Terminally biased asshole.

But too many states have essentially legalized murder with laws that allow anyone to kill anyone else on the pretext that they fear for their life.

Author = Ideological Jackass who is appealing to the emotionally ruled segment of society, primarily women who believe they are smarter than they actually are.

While I would love to see Trayvon’s killer locked away for what he did, moving this country in a more humane direction would be the bigger prize. A verdict of “not guilty” may not accomplish that, but I think it’s the only chance. Brace yourselves.

Author understands that the defendant will likely not be found guilty and is not pleased at all with this likely outcome.
18 posted on 07/04/2013 11:50:55 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: 21twelve

I dont agree with very much of what 2nd Vet says on this matter though I have agreed with many of his other posts. If you REALLY study the story and get as many facts pertaining to the history, witness testimony, the evidence and the timelines what you have is two asteroids that were hurling towards each other that resulted in death which could have been averted if either one had decided to pull back and let it go. It could have been Zimmerman’s death just as easily but then it would only have been a passing story that would have been forgotten within the week. I wont go into all the facts that led me to this conclusion as its been repeated on these forum ad nauseum. The who fiasco has been politicized to the hilt for maximum effectiveness in regard to polarizing black against white votes at the voting booths (IMHO of course).


19 posted on 07/04/2013 11:53:21 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Was he within the law?
This is an easy one - Yes.
20 posted on 07/04/2013 11:53:43 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Not guilty by reason of sanity.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s deep.

I wouldn’t normally expect much coherence or logic in the blitherings of someone who refers to themself as “The Word Pimp,” but in this guy’s case I didn’t find any at all. Drivel, of a fine level of purity.


21 posted on 07/04/2013 11:55:30 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: jsanders2001

^ correction. I see that this was NOT written by 2nd Vet. I had a brain fart. My apologies...


22 posted on 07/04/2013 11:55:40 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: South40
"What matters is what the twelve jurors believe to be true. I stopped reading after this."

Good idea considering this clueless dork doesn't know there are only six and not twelve.

That there is funny and succinct.

23 posted on 07/04/2013 11:56:25 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Their job is to determine whether the defendant abided by Florida’s Stand Your Ground law.

SYG does not apply in this case. Either it was self-defense under the law prior to SYG, and under the laws of any other state. Or it was some degree of illegal homicide.

But SYG is just not relevant.

24 posted on 07/04/2013 11:56:49 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s this I hear that Skittles is changing their tagline from “taste the rainbow” to taste the pain, bro?


25 posted on 07/04/2013 11:57:00 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: jsanders2001

The problem is that Martin did not want to have an intellectual chin wag.
He just commenced to violence.

What was GZ supposed to do?
Take it?


26 posted on 07/05/2013 12:00:04 AM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trayvon did put up a fight, the same way I taught my children to if they were ever accosted by some creep that could have easily been a pedophile. I’d go so far as to say that Trayvon would have whipped his assailant’s ass, were it not for the gun.

Right. Let's see. GZ is expecting the cops to arrive Real Soon Now, as 911 promised.

So, what better time to take the law into his own hands and execute a punk wearing a hoodie? I mean, what could possibly go wrong? Why, with all those densely packed townhouses around, there's zero chance any of the multi-colored neighbors could possibly observe what their Neighborhood Watch Captain actually did! Well maybe not now. How about five minutes from now? Gotta plan this. Oh wait, the cops will be here by then!

A crime such as that would be dicey for a real cop, but positively insane for a wannabe like GZ. Yep, a brilliant theory! An urbantwisted theory!

27 posted on 07/05/2013 12:01:42 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 21twelve

Perhaps he was contemplating his next move for his not-yet “all that lost life and potential”.


28 posted on 07/05/2013 12:03:17 AM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
50 Cent charged with violence against ex-girlfriend
29 posted on 07/05/2013 12:06:45 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Not guilty by reason of sanity.)
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To: Figment

“He comes to almost the right conclusion through stupidity”

What do you expect from a liberal? I will bet all the money in my pocket he hates whitey too.


30 posted on 07/05/2013 12:09:27 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The question we need to ask ourselves is, “Which outcome would be best for everyone?”

Nope, moron. The question to axe is, What outcome is just?

31 posted on 07/05/2013 12:13:58 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mylife

While Justice may indeed be blind, the author of this piece has invented a whole new level of STUPID.


32 posted on 07/05/2013 12:16:00 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Political Junkie Too
“....only wanted to get back home with his Skittles & tea and watch basketball.”

I stopped reading after this.

33 posted on 07/05/2013 12:21:41 AM PDT by Mark17 (My heart is in the Philippines, and soon I will be too.)
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To: Mark17
I stopped reading after this.

That's where I stopped too. This guy can't distinguish his fantasies from reality.

34 posted on 07/05/2013 12:32:28 AM PDT by TChad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s quite wrong on a basic fact of the case: The “stand your ground” law is totally irrelevant. The defense will not use it. They will use the more fundamental law of self defense. Not the same thing.


35 posted on 07/05/2013 12:34:12 AM PDT by sourcery (If true=false, then there would be no constraints on what is possible. Hence, the world exists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Trayvon did put up a fight, the same way I taught my children to if they were ever accosted by some creep that could have easily been a pedophile.

I see that the author is writing to the audience that has only seen the angelic 12-year-old-Trayvon pictures. Keep reinforcing that he was just a little kid afraid of dirty old man strangers. In fact, the author himself puts the lie to it when he said TM would've whipped GZ if not for the gun. Trayvon didn't see a pedophile waiting to prey on him, he saw a "cracker."

I have not seen or heard all the evidence, so I don't know whether Zim's guilty and of what, but it is so tiring to read nonsense like this.

36 posted on 07/05/2013 12:48:20 AM PDT by informavoracious (We're being "punished" with Stanley Ann's baby. Obamacare: shovel-ready healthcare.)
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To: informavoracious

Believe me, I could post a dozen of these for every one that I do. Common as sand on a seashore.


37 posted on 07/05/2013 12:55:02 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: jsanders2001; 21twelve

What remains a mystery to me is how a mere tenth of the population thinks it can make demands on the rest of society. How does that work? Especially when the 70-80% they believe are cowed are armed to the teeth with rifles, pistols and shotguns and trillions of rounds of ammunition. Someone please explain all this to me.


38 posted on 07/05/2013 1:02:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When your head and nose are busted, and a thug is pounding away on you, there isn’t a lot of time for a philosophical debate about whether or not necessary self defense fulfills the letter of the law. Kill the sucker before he kills you. Trayvon had every opportunity to go home, and he chose to go polar bear hunting. That bad, militant decision is responsible for his death.


39 posted on 07/05/2013 1:04:00 AM PDT by pallis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If as all the evidence I have seen and heard bears out that Martin was shot by Zimmerman in self defense then Zimmerman must go free. Doesn’t matter if the kid’s skin was black or pinkl polka dots.........
While being STUPID does not get you legally arrested it can get you legally killed..........


40 posted on 07/05/2013 1:10:09 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

young man who only wanted to get back home with his Skittles & tea and watch basketball,

So the author is a psychic? He knows what was in Martin’s mind that evening?


41 posted on 07/05/2013 1:11:38 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

George Zimmerman’s Black Ancestry is Revealed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2876811/posts

George Zimmerman: the black, Hispanic, Peruvian, kind-hearted non-white, not-racist poster boy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2876692/posts

George Zimmerman Has ‘Black Roots’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2876518/posts


42 posted on 07/05/2013 1:13:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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43 posted on 07/05/2013 1:22:32 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: TChad
That's where I stopped too. This guy can't distinguish his fantasies from reality.

That is exactly the point: his reality IS fantasy. What a first class maroon.

44 posted on 07/05/2013 1:25:40 AM PDT by Mark17 (My heart is in the Philippines, and soon I will be too.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Junior Samples • 12 hours ago - Word Pimp: Are you retarded? You didn't know Trayvon Martin, so why are your emotions in play? This case isn't being tried using stand your ground. Also, funny that someone following the case so closely doesn't know that there are six jurors, not twelve.

Robbins Mitchell • an hour ago − FTA...."Whether that’s true or not doesn’t matter. What matters is what the twelve jurors believe to be true."......tell me something,Pimpy Boy......what makes you think your take on this trial has any validity at all?....given the fact that you are clearly unaware that the jury is composed of SIX females....five white or Anglo...and 1 of mixed ethnicity......and not the 12 you imagine......you are what is generally referred to in the common parlance as a "clueless dork"



45 posted on 07/05/2013 1:25:58 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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46 posted on 07/05/2013 1:26:37 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Jeff Winston

THAT needs to be on EVERY thread....EVERY DAMN THREAD!!


47 posted on 07/05/2013 1:38:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: cynwoody

How about only six (6) jurors in this case all females


48 posted on 07/05/2013 1:57:14 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Jeff Winston
Triple amen to this one
49 posted on 07/05/2013 1:58:54 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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Fernando Quijano III’s Summary

OBJECTIVE
I am seeking a position where I can best utilize the various skills I’ve developed over the years as a writer, artist and sales manager to better serve the public.

QUALIFICATIONS
My unique background in Professional Writing, Fine Arts and Retail Sales Management makes me ideal for any position requiring a knowledgeable, literate people-person. My ability to approach a situation from diverse perspectives makes me an excellent problem solver. My work in the community has instilled in me a strong desire to work for the best interests of the public. I am also naturally fluent in Spanish, and I have a strong computer background with working knowledge of programming and system design concepts, including some HTML, and various software applications, including but not limited to MS Word and Adobe Photoshop.

Specialties
art, basic, bookkeeping, customer service, data entry, driving, fashion, marketing, merchandising, microsoft office, networking, organizational skills, payroll processing, photography, promotional materials, sales, scheduling, telephone skills, workshops, writing,

Fernando Quijano III’s Experience

President
Maryland Writers’ Association, Baltimore Chapter
Writing and Editing industry
July 2012 – Present (1 year 1 month) Baltimore, Maryland Area

Op-ed Columnist
The Urban Twist
February 2010 – Present (3 years 6 months)

I write “From the Bottom Up,” an op-ed column that appears regularly on The Urban Twist
Workshop Instructor
Writing Outside the Fence
May 2009 – Present (4 years 3 months)

Writing Outside the Fence
I lead writing workshops for the ex-offender community in Baltimore helping them develop writing skills and develop techniques from basic to advanced within a variety of genres.
Vice President
Maryland Writers Association
Writing and Editing industry
July 2010 – June 2012 (2 years)

As Vice President of the MWA I proposed a program to offer free memberships for one year to participants of Writing Outside the Fence and the writing workshops at the Brock Bridge Correctional Facility. This program, once passed, has successfully expanded the organizations outreach into the community.
Manager
ABC Phones
October 2009 – January 2010 (4 months)

I was hired as a sales executive, but I was promoted to Acting Manager within five weeks of my original hire. I currently manage a crew of three.

Manager, Swatch
I managed a crew which varied from three to seven employees depending on season. I was responsible for sales, marketing, local promotion, training, payroll, bookkeeping, and customer service.
Deputy Field Organizer
Campaign for Change
Nonprofit; 1001-5000 employees; Political Organization industry
September 2009 – November 2009 (3 months)

I volunteered to travel to Manassas, Virginia to work for Barack Obama’ election campaign. I helped to organize voter registration drives, phone banks, and door-to-door canvassing. I trained volunteers at all levels of the campaign. I also set up a system for local donations, and helped to set up the campaign office’s wireless network.


50 posted on 07/05/2013 2:14:09 AM PDT by kcvl
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